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I must say that I find that Patrick was absolutely outstanding and thoses haters have just to
SHHHHUUUUUUTTTTTTT UPPP!!!:
Thank you!!!
I must say that I find that Patrick was absolutely outstanding and thoses haters have just to
SHHHHUUUUUUTTTTTTT UPPP!!!:
Thank you!!!
Guys, Ross never landed the quad in the SP to date. And he wasn't underscored, because his quad was underrotated and got downgraded, beside the fall.
Most of these programs look like crap.
The nitpickery is because the scores are such a blatant reminder of how the skating that truly moves people doesn't matter so much anymore. Chan doesn't deserve PCS that high compared to what real, inspired artistic skating should really look like. He was overall the best here, definitely, but it's hard to get that excited about it on some levels. The technical elements were solid and difficult across the board and his blade work is stunning, but the performance/choreography/interpretation? Does his skating invoke deep emotions within you, though? I can't say that it does for me. His program was okay choreographically, not great. As for the other areas, I still feel like he doesn't always move TO the music (those opening movements seem quite calculated) or bring a viewpoint into his skating that has relevance.
I believe Takahashi deserved the highest PCS. His combination spin was SO good with the music. Every single change of position actually MEANT something. His footwork was also the best in that regard. Look at how well he understands how to change tempo. Look at how he understands WHY a certain movement goes with the music and how he lives the moment and lets it run through him. Love the brackets right at the end and how they express that solitary, repetitive piano note which has come to the forefront of the melody. His body movement actually changes to match it.
Still, as hard as he tries, his program still has some unnecessary movements that are in there simply because the rules dictate them. Should Takahashi being doing that broken-leg sit spin position or that catch-foot camel position? No, he really shouldn't be. Should all of these men being trying to go onto the inside edge during their camel spin, while halfway twisting their bodies upward? Nope.
There needs to be a happy medium found between rewarding technically difficulty and rewarding the difficulty it takes to truly move to music and do something personal. Who cares if it's more subjective. I WANT to be forced to pick between Michelle Kwan and Lu Chen at 1996 Worlds. And guess what...every skater in the World would be fine with getting a Silver medal instead of a Gold, if it meant getting the kind of salaries and widespread audiences the sport used to bring.
All this nitpickery of Chan and his scoring is getting ridiculous. It reminds me of an old political joke, which I will update now for the Chan anti-fans (Chanti-fans? Chantagonists?): So the new pope pays a visit to Detroit (he is supposed to be awfully concerned with poverty), where Patrick now trains. The pope goes boating on Lake Saint Clair (after all, Saint Clair is the first follower of St. Francis of Assisi, the new pope's namesake), and Patrick, taking a day off, tags along. During the boat ride, a sudden gust of wind blows the pope's zucchetto (the papal yarmulke, pardon my religion mixing) into the water. Everybody gasps. The Swiss Guards ready themselves for a surely suicidal swim in the horribly polluted waters to retrieve the holy item. That's when P-Chiddy stood up and said, "I got this." He jumped off the boat, and ran right on top of the lake without falling in (it turns out that his skating skills work on liquid as well as frozen water), grabs the hat, swings around and hands it back to the pope. Reaction from Chan's anti-fans? "Well, it just goes to show, Patrick Chan can't swim."
The nitpickery is because the scores are such a blatant reminder of how the skating that truly moves people doesn't matter so much anymore.
Ya se coronó campeón Europeo. Dale tiempo para lo demás.
Most of these programs look like crap.
The nitpickery is because the scores are such a blatant reminder of how the skating that truly moves people doesn't matter so much anymore. Chan doesn't deserve PCS that high compared to what real, inspired artistic skating should really look like. He was overall the best here, definitely, but it's hard to get that excited about it on some levels. The technical elements were solid and difficult across the board and his blade work is stunning, but the performance/choreography/interpretation? Does his skating invoke deep emotions within you, though? I can't say that it does for me. His program was okay choreographically, not great. As for the other areas, I still feel like he doesn't always move TO the music (those opening movements seem quite calculated) or bring a viewpoint into his skating that has relevance.
I believe Takahashi deserved the highest PCS. His combination spin was SO good with the music. Every single change of position actually MEANT something. His footwork was also the best in that regard. Look at how well he understands how to change tempo. Look at how he understands WHY a certain movement goes with the music and how he lives the moment and lets it run through him. Love the brackets right at the end and how they express that solitary, repetitive piano note which has come to the forefront of the melody. His body movement actually changes to match it.
Still, as hard as he tries, his program still has some unnecessary movements that are in there simply because the rules dictate them. Should Takahashi being doing that broken-leg sit spin position or that catch-foot camel position? No, he really shouldn't be. Should all of these men being trying to go onto the inside edge during their camel spin, while halfway twisting their bodies upward? Nope.
There needs to be a happy medium found between rewarding technically difficulty and rewarding the difficulty it takes to truly move to music and do something personal. Who cares if it's more subjective. I WANT to be forced to pick between Michelle Kwan and Lu Chen at 1996 Worlds. And guess what...every skater in the World would be fine with getting a Silver medal instead of a Gold, if it meant getting the kind of salaries and widespread audiences the sport used to bring.
I can't believe Chan just skated great and people still find something to complain about.
2009 Chan: Great SS. Yes but he doesn't have a 3 axel.
2010 Chan: Great SS and a 3 axel. Yes, but he laks the almighty quad.
2011 Chan: Great SS, 3 axel and a quad! Yes but he lacks artistry.
2012 Chan: Great SS, 3 axel, a quad and is working on his artistry. Yes, but he's overscored and inconsistent.
2013 Chan: Great SS, 3 axel, a quad and much improved artistry! Yes but I hate his cleavage!
Give me a break.
He was over the toe on the 4toe and had to fight to get the 3toe done.
3axel had the timing off on the take-off and had barely enough height to get completed (I was surprised the landing was so solid, it was very close).
Lutz was good. Spins were good but not exceptional.
Chan also got 1.57 for 4toe/3toe. The judges clearly were watching something else.
The GOEs for his first two jumping passes are way way too high.
There is always something to complain about in each and every single performance that ever was and ever will be skated.
Beautiful skate, Patrick. I love how he's the one who gets all the attention for bad judging. He is not even the most overscored of the day. It pays to have a lead, I guess.
Maybe it's that damn Winnie the Pooh Kleenex box. It makes me want to steal his lunch money and shove him in a locker.
Hanyu is 18 freaking years old for goodness sake - way too old for him to still be packaged as a Pooh lover.
All this nitpickery of Chan and his scoring is getting ridiculous. It reminds me of an old political joke, which I will update now for the Chan anti-fans (Chanti-fans? Chantagonists?): So the new pope pays a visit to Detroit (he is supposed to be awfully concerned with poverty), where Patrick now trains. The pope goes boating on Lake Saint Clair (after all, Saint Clair is the first follower of St. Francis of Assisi, the new pope's namesake), and Patrick, taking a day off, tags along. During the boat ride, a sudden gust of wind blows the pope's zucchetto (the papal yarmulke, pardon my religion mixing) into the water. Everybody gasps. The Swiss Guards ready themselves for a surely suicidal swim in the horribly polluted waters to retrieve the holy item. That's when P-Chiddy stood up and said, "I got this." He jumped off the boat, and ran right on top of the lake without falling in (it turns out that his skating skills work on liquid as well as frozen water), grabs the hat, swings around and hands it back to the pope. Reaction from Chan's anti-fans? "Well, it just goes to show, Patrick Chan can't swim."
I believe Takahashi deserved the highest PCS. His combination spin was SO good with the music. Every single change of position actually MEANT something. His footwork was also the best in that regard. Look at how well he understands how to change tempo. Look at how he understands WHY a certain movement goes with the music and how he lives the moment and lets it run through him. Love the brackets right at the end and how they express that solitary, repetitive piano note which has come to the forefront of the melody. His body movement actually changes to match it.
Still, as hard as he tries, his program still has some unnecessary movements that are in there simply because the rules dictate them. Should Takahashi being doing that broken-leg sit spin position or that catch-foot camel position? No, he really shouldn't be. Should all of these men being trying to go onto the inside edge during their camel spin, while halfway twisting their bodies upward? Nope.
All this nitpickery of Chan and his scoring is getting ridiculous. It reminds me of an old political joke, which I will update now for the Chan anti-fans (Chanti-fans? Chantagonists?): So the new pope pays a visit to Detroit (he is supposed to be awfully concerned with poverty), where Patrick now trains. The pope goes boating on Lake Saint Clair (after all, Saint Clair is the first follower of St. Francis of Assisi, the new pope's namesake), and Patrick, taking a day off, tags along. During the boat ride, a sudden gust of wind blows the pope's zucchetto (the papal yarmulke, pardon my religion mixing) into the water. Everybody gasps. The Swiss Guards ready themselves for a surely suicidal swim in the horribly polluted waters to retrieve the holy item. That's when P-Chiddy stood up and said, "I got this." He jumped off the boat, and ran right on top of the lake without falling in (it turns out that his skating skills work on liquid as well as frozen water), grabs the hat, swings around and hands it back to the pope. Reaction from Chan's anti-fans? "Well, it just goes to show, Patrick Chan can't swim."
I absolutely do not get what all the hoopla is about Hanyu. He's not even the most interesting or talented of the Japanese skaters, much less the cream of the world crop.
I feel like I'm on another planet concerning this guy. He's clearly got the attention of the judges and fans.
Maybe it's that damn Winnie the Pooh Kleenex box. It makes me want to steal his lunch money and shove him in a locker.