Because now all of the politics are behind Tut, now that she's the definitive Russian #1.
2015 World Team Trophy Ladies SP Apr 16
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Because now all of the politics are behind Tut, now that she's the definitive Russian #1.
I guess because she's not Russian #1 anymore...? (But Rika's scores, for instance, didn't plummet over the season. Satoko's just rose. Nor did Gracie's scores plummet post Nationals, though perhaps they would've had a decent Ashley Wagner showed up at 4CC.)
I found Elena a little overscored at the Europeans SP (the GOE for the combo), but otherwise, she deserved her scores, imo.
Her lutz looked clean and good to me in real time. Not surprised.
That flip... Spartacus was never meant to be clean, I guess...
In past WTTs, each nation's points were given according to overall placements. But it seems like this time, you get points for each segment, much like the Olympics Team Event.
Yes. Her previous best was 70.31 at 2014 Worlds.
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At this point, Gracie proves herself that she doesn't have to invest her time for learning new jumps. She just brings her performance like today; clean and engaging one.
What a pity...what if she had made fewer mistakes in the SP at WC, then..she migh've gotten a World medal.
Though I'm really glad for her.
What a pity...what if she had made fewer mistakes in the SP at WC, then..she migh've gotten a World medal.
Though I'm really glad for her.
Indeed, it's the surprisingly little effect falls tend to have. Liza's 3A was fully rotated and credited with 5.5 points, that's almost an additional 3Lz despite the fall. I still think falls should be punished harder, but ISU obviously wants to encourage high-risk jumps. Gracie's 71 was no surprise to me, she has scored that high before when she was clean.
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Has anyone else? Scores rise over the season for 99% of skaters, assuming they don't start skating worse. Elena is the 1%...
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Not really, it's very much the same. She is a lot taller now though than at the beginning of the season, so I'm hoping that when she gets adjusted to her new height, her skating will be more dashing.
Thanks, this is what I thought.
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https://youtu.be/SbhQCa0hsDM?t=279
3A fully rotated, just lost balance on the landing unfortunately.
3A fully rotated, just lost balance on the landing unfortunately.
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Well, karne has been quite against the vertically-challenged lately.
Gracie might have the edge in SS, but in TR, PE, INT, or CH, I wouldn't put her above Elena. Even clean, my attention sometimes drifts away when Gracie is skating. Never so with Elena.
Not saying Elena necessarily deserves the lead, considering the quality of the jumps, but it's a bit odd to me that other skaters' marks are rising late-season--as usual--while hers are falling. I thought she performed better than Worlds and jumped better than Europeans, but the score is lower than both.
But that's your opinion because you are drawn to Elena. I too like Elena, but at this stage, my opinion is that she is rushing, rushing to grow up fast and get to top of podium. There is a desperate quality about her and also there is still a juniorish quality about her. She tries too hard and she's OTT with the dramatic facial expressions. I can see Elena developing into a real powerhouse, but for the life of me I wish she could/ would be able to just slow down right now and allow herself to further develop and mature. She needs to work on her posture and get better costumes. Choice of music is overly ambitious for her at this point too, IMHO.
In any case, IMO Liza was over-scored in front of Gracie in areas where she's not better than Gracie. It's a lot about politics and subjectivity, particularly when talent levels are so comparatively close.
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Yes, 5.5 - 1 for the fall is 4.5 points for the Axel. That's more than any of her fellow competitors got on their double axels.
I disagree, she should at least try to add something to her arsenal. Right now she's dead level with Elizaveta because of Elizaveta's fall.At this point, Gracie proves herself that she doesn't have to invest her time for learning new jumps. She just brings her performance like today; clean and engaging one.
What a pity...what if she had made fewer mistakes in the SP at WC, then..she migh've gotten a World medal.
Though I'm really glad for her.
I also think that falls should be penalized harsher, but right now Elizaveta's strategy is paying off.
Sure. But in turn, that is your opinion, because you are drawn to Gracie.
I agree Elena has things to work on (though I wouldn't call her skating desperate--she looks like she's genuinely enjoying herself out there, and I can't see a desperate person being that way). However, the same goes for Gracie (emotional connection with the music/audience, more engaging programs, ect.)Anyway, how either of us feels about Elena's skating isn't relevant. What's strange is how her scores have fallen after clean performances--which for anyone else, would only build rep/momentum, creating greater scores later on in the season.
Liza was a little overscored in some GOE and in terms of SS vs. Gracie, but the real culprit here is the (lack of) fall deduction, not the judging, imo.
Liza also received -GOE on her 3-3 at the B event. The GOE covers part of the points, and the extra mistake probably affected the PCS too (though I don't think we have videos of her Bavarian Open SP, so who knows).
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