2015 Worlds Free Dance March 27
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Me too! I'm obsessed with Beaudry and Sorensen's Sinatra FD. I'm not sure who choreographed it but it just oozed appeal and charm tonight. I'm beyond ecstatic that Paul/Islam performed a clean program here that had such little mileage and their nerves held up. Interesting night in dance for sure, starting to see who's gonna be contenders in this next quad. I've got my eye on Stepanova and Bukin.
Nary a single negative GOE in sight. Now, I don't claim to understand ice dance, but why are off-sync twizzles given Level 4 and positive GOE? Here I thought the GOE scoring in singles was bad... this is just nuts. Even C/B's twizzles got positive GOE (albeit "only" +1s).
I don't know if the judges are want V/M to come back ("Your successors aren't succeeding!") or if they're trying to make sure they never return ("see, this young team came within two points of your personal best, and they did it with a twizzle error!")
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Not that I recall... I remember V/M went from 6th to silver, I think, and people thought THAT was a big move!
All smiles but when they were giving out the medals, you could tell that they looked somewhat dejected- like hiding pain with a smile.
Of course they graciously congratulated the others gut you could tell that this was heart break.
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I think C/L should go back to Igor and the Shibs should go somewhere else, although I dunno where.
Possibly! Their third was crazy!
Yes ice dance must be rebuilt a lot but do they know how? Ladies is consolation to the fed overall but the ice dance community is gutted.
They want V/M to come back. They're like come back V/M, we'll let you break D/W's world record. Just come back.
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shibs should have left a long time ago...
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you know, when i first saw their twizzles, i thought, hey, they are doing them in mirror, instead of parallel... maybe it's a new ice dance move 
I agree, I'd like to see something more adventurous, I did raise my eyebrows when I found out their FD music and I do like the FD a lot but I prefer them in a different style.
And I hope that Marie and Patrice can do the same magic with the Spaniards, I love watching Sara and Adria but the judges don't seem to agree
Are C&L still working with Zoueva at all? I thought they had moved to her this season.
My biggest beef with C&B is something they have no control over—their height difference. I thought Emily Samuelson was a much better match for him. C&B look more like a pair team with the height difference, but they do a good job with what they have.
I'd like to see where W&P lost points beyond the extended lift. I would have swapped their placements with C&B. P&C are stunning. I'm happy they won, but I do think their point total was a little nuts. I wish there had been a fourth spot on the podium for C&L.
My biggest beef with C&B is something they have no control over—their height difference. I thought Emily Samuelson was a much better match for him. C&B look more like a pair team with the height difference, but they do a good job with what they have.
I'd like to see where W&P lost points beyond the extended lift. I would have swapped their placements with C&B. P&C are stunning. I'm happy they won, but I do think their point total was a little nuts. I wish there had been a fourth spot on the podium for C&L.
Fun fact: this is the tenth consecutive season in which Canadians placed on the Podium in dance:
2006: 2nd, 2007: 2nd (Dubreuil / Lauzon)
2008: 2nd, 2009: 3rd, 2010: 1st, 2011: 2nd, 2012: 1st, 2013: 2nd (Virtue / Moir)
2014: 2nd, 2014: 3rd (Weaver / Poje)
Also note the nice little dovetailed footnote: D/L are technically *almost* on the podium this year as well, given that they train P/C.
At the rate they're going, W/P could make it a run until 2018. They're not slowing down anytime soon and tonight was the one time they didn't make the top of the pile all season.
2006: 2nd, 2007: 2nd (Dubreuil / Lauzon)
2008: 2nd, 2009: 3rd, 2010: 1st, 2011: 2nd, 2012: 1st, 2013: 2nd (Virtue / Moir)
2014: 2nd, 2014: 3rd (Weaver / Poje)
Also note the nice little dovetailed footnote: D/L are technically *almost* on the podium this year as well, given that they train P/C.
At the rate they're going, W/P could make it a run until 2018. They're not slowing down anytime soon and tonight was the one time they didn't make the top of the pile all season.
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It's not a bad attitude to disagree vehemently with the results. It's not about the people, but the skating. And sorry, but the quality of what was produced artistically and technically by W/P was miles ahead of what was produced by C/B. It's about judging ice dance according to the rules of the sport. And tonight, that was not what was done. Even with P/C. I think what W/P skated was more complex and difficult with excellent execution. Next to P/C, with more open holds and less complexity with excellent execution, I would have W/P ahead. On the other hand, P/C have more ease in their movements. It's pretty even. Then we go to the SD, and there I think W/P were better, even though it wasn't their best. So W/P should have won. It should have been W/P ahead of P/C, and C/B should have been farther down the list already in the SD based on what was skated. The whole point of COP is to judge individual programs according to the rules, using the same measuring stick from start to finish, the same scale of marks and leniency and harshness. The placements will be what they will be. But in many recent competitions, especially in dance and sometimes in ladies, there has been a whole lot of playing with the marks. It's wrong for the athletes. It's wrong for the sport. And unless ISU and member feds get a good grip on this problem, ice dance is at risk of being de-listed as a sport, and kicked out of the Olympics.
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There is a good thing though on the results during the whole year. To me it says that there is no team who's dominating or will dominate, yet. I think that is right because there are no couples who can say they are outstanding.
I'm very happy for P&C, but they are not the best. IMO, nobody is right now.
I'm very happy for P&C, but they are not the best. IMO, nobody is right now.
Bless you gravy, I now feel a bit less
: about my run-on, gushing post re Cizeron.:agree:. What I admire about Poirier(especially with Hitchcock program) and Cizeron is that they both seem to truly love dance in a way that comes through their programs.
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I agree that the podium is respectful and Andrew even did the selfie. I am proud of them all for that type of sportsmanship. Although not on the podium, I think the Shibs made some progress. They got a level 2 on their first lift which I don't understand. They might have been at C/L score (105) if they had kept their levels. I don't understand why their twizzles are not a solid 3 across the board. I'm also happy for Gilles and Poirier. I know she is not everyone's fav but I thought that program came along nicely. It's 40s schmaltz but I liked it! I hope they continue with the innovation next year. Pretty Elena will be back; Rusaln has got to be thrilled that it wasn't he who messed up. Only 2 Russian ice teams! What drama! I'm thinking maybe Anna and Luca might pack it in and join the European show circuit.
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At first I thought their Four Seasons was safe and traditional too, but it was the best Four Seasons I've ever seen in skating and it grew on me as the season went by. The range of emotions covered in the FD was breathtaking. I've seen people argue their Tango was boring or that Je Suis Malade wasn't difficult. Their programs in recent memory have been my favorites, as of course, is P&C's Mozart.
I haven't liked D&W's and V&M's programs in the latter quad very much, while I was absolutely thrilled for W&P and wished a Gold for them somewhere... It's not meant to be... so sad. I think this defeat will really crush them. I mean, the judges let them win the GPF and other competitions, pretty much designating them as World Champions but ultimately taking it away from them. Only, this whole build up was a tease. Talk about taunting them. I don't know what else W&P will do now... The Canadian curse was at least winning silvers, and now the W&P curse is something altogether new.
I agree, I'd like to see something more adventurous, I did raise my eyebrows when I found out their FD music and I do like the FD a lot but I prefer them in a different style.
And I hope that Marie and Patrice can do the same magic with the Spaniards, I love watching Sara and Adria but the judges don't seem to agree
I'm with you there. They seem perenially undermarked. Ugh.
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