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Wakaba won Tokyo Regionals this weekend with a total score of 194!!! I think that's close to her PB right?
She got 65.77 in the short program and went clean, so that's good.
And a 128 in the free with a singled Loop but everything else clean. So if she hadn't popped that loop, she might've broken 200 for the total score. I haven't checked the protocols but I hope she fixed those underotations on her Lutz Toe combo. She got 60 for PCS in the free skate, which I think is great. But obviously this is a local comp so it might be over scored. And 67 for TES is good too in the free. For the short, she got a 29 for PCS, seems fair. And 36 for TES.
 
JuliaHols said:
Wakaba won Tokyo Regionals this weekend with a total score of 194!!! I think that's close to her PB right?
She got 65.77 in the short program and went clean, so that's good.
And a 128 in the free with a singled Loop but everything else clean. So if she hadn't popped that loop, she might've broken 200 for the total score. I haven't checked the protocols but I hope she fixed those underotations on her Lutz Toe combo. She got 60 for PCS in the free skate, which I think is great. But obviously this is a local comp so it might be over scored. And 67 for TES is good too in the free. For the short, she got a 29 for PCS, seems fair. And 36 for TES.
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I posted the protocols in her fan fest thread. :)
 
So many good girls, senior and junior :hap10:
The future looks good for ladies (but not so much for men)
 
Sorry for the :otopic: but I just want to introduce some of you to a future Japanese Olympic medalist skater ;)

https://instagram.com/p/BK1w9ewjkAk/

She is inspiring people all over the world!!!

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Back to topic with a random question :o:

Is there a national training center for Olympic figure skating in Japan? A home rink that the Olympic Skaters use?
 
 
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Is it me or do "Wakaba Higuchi" and "UR on lutz toe combo" just not belong in the same sentence? :scratch2:
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I know right? I was shocked too when I saw the UR calls on her combo for the first time, not that I'm a specialist or even a skater or anything, but it does seem that her back end triple toes aren't quite as big or solid as her Lutz :/
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UEIkefKSt8

I can't get over this. Watched in ~30 times and just can't proceed to the new exciting season, skaters and performances. Everything in this skate is so thoroughly perfect: elements, dress, face, fluidity and projection, I'm just helpless. Replay. :hopelessness:
 
With judges opening their eyes for under rotations, do you think there won't be a clear no. 1 Japanese lady this year?

Wakaba Higuchi does not under rotate but she probably won't get a high second mark.

If Marin is on the senior level, she can be an easy no. 1 as long as she lands her jumps.
 
The last time Marin Honda underrotated her jump she was in diapers. ;)

I don't know if she can be no 1 right from next season, but I expect her to get on Olympic team, especially with latest Rika Hongo's problems.
 
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I feel so bad for the japanese ladies, atm. Mai Mihara seems the only one who is not getting axed by the judges, and she just isn't 'there' yet, in terms of star power. 2018 is coming closer and closer....it might be possible that there will be no japanese lady on the podium. *sigh*
 
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With judges opening their eyes for under rotations, do you think there won't be a clear no. 1 Japanese lady this year?

Wakaba Higuchi does not under rotate but she probably won't get a high second mark.

If Marin is on the senior level, she can be an easy no. 1 as long as she lands her jumps.
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Wakaba has received UR calls quite a few times. She also pops her jumps.

Marin has already been beaten by the likes of Rika Kihira and Kaori Sakamoto in recent domestic competitions so I'm not rushing to crown her #1. Nothing is certain.
 
So I have been following the Japanese Juniors for quite some time now, and I've been wondering, who exactly amongst the juniors/ new seniors have good skating skills? I've watched some programs (not the local competitions due to lack of videos) and my personal opinion is that in local competition, Marin tends to be lowballed for her PCS and I'm very curious why. Anyone?
 
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So I have been following the Japanese Juniors for quite some time now, and I've been wondering, who exactly amongst the juniors/ new seniors have good skating skills? I've watched some programs (not the local competitions due to lack of videos) and my personal opinion is that in local competition, Marin tends to be lowballed for her PCS and I'm very curious why. Anyone?
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Her coaches have mentioned many times she's kinda free spirit in trainings, a bit lazy sometimes, you can't quite force her to do things, if she doesn't want to, etc..
Asked why is is it so, they replied it's because ever since she began skating, she's always been the most talented skater in her group and could perform taught elements with ease.
Now, I've this conspiracy theory they may have whispered word or two to people on domestic judging panels to judge homegirl strictly and therefore to put some fire under her and make her work harder. :biggrin:

Also, please watch this JPN TV recap from JGP Lyublyana:
- Marin scored decent 178 there, but with mistakes in both short and long programs. At 8:30 mark, she peeks through the rink door at Zagitova's score deciding her JGP Final fate. When she finds out she finished 2nd above Zagi, thus (practically) clinched JGPF, she starts crying from happiness in the corridor. At this point, her coach Yamato Tamura appears, so she instinctively tries to hug him, but he just smiles, gives her a reserved pat on the back and goes his way.
Things like that makes me wonder, if the coaching staff deliberately doesn't want to toughen her up by showing she's expected to win by training harder and delivering clean skates.
 
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I feel so bad for the japanese ladies, atm. Mai Mihara seems the only one who is not getting axed by the judges, and she just isn't 'there' yet, in terms of star power. 2018 is coming closer and closer....it might be possible that there will be no japanese lady on the podium. *sigh*
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Well that is possible with the American and Russians too. It isn't impossible you could have Gold and Wagner with Kostner on the podium or Satoko and an American and Ksotner. Or three russians, or two Japanese ladies and russian. Japan like Russia and Canada have to figure out who are there leading contenders

One would think Mao was safe but with Mai, Satoko, Marin, Rika you never who is going to be left making sushi. So Japanese skating is healthy and there are other ladies too who could be threats. Just remember Russia has its weaknesses too - will Med survive puberty, is Rad losing the puberty battle, can Sotnikova and Lip come back, Has Liza lost her mojo, Pogo is always an inconsistent nightmare. Then you have Ashley, Gracie and the lucky third lady from the US. Head cases though Ashley has the street cred and toughness. Throw in Kostner and yes, everyone is in danger. And one wonders what if one of the Canadian ladies take charge - most likely Osmond or Daleman. They could be another Liz Manley or Joannie Rochette in the making. Satoko has been world class the last two years. and Continues on. Now who will join her. We all know Mao has everything to be the best; it just has been a while.
 
Wow, that gives me a great idea. I should move to Japan and open a Mao Asada sushi shop. So much money.
 
Saw this on the other forum and found it very interesting to say at least. This is the current season best rankings of the Japanese ladies so far:

1. Satoko Miyahara 206.75 (US International Classic)
2. Rika Kihira 194.24 (JGP Ljubljana)
3. Mai Mihara 189.28 (Skate America)
4. Kaori Sakamoto 187.81 (JGP Yokohama)
5. Mao Asada 186.16 (Skate America)
6. Marin Honda 184.11 (JGP Yokohama)
7. Mako Yamashita 184.06 (JGP Tallinn)
8. Wakaba Higuchi 178.86 (Lombardia Trophy)
9. Rika Hongo 171.19 (Skate Canada)
10. Kanako Murakami 151.27 (Lombardia Trophy)

We'll see what Yura Matsuda does at Rostelecom and of course the ladies in this top 10 until Japanese Nationals, but the list is giving a few hints so far.
 
This season the landscape of Japanese ladies will shake a little bit.

Mao is worse than ever, Satoko is finally punished for her massive under rotations, and Wakaba is on the rise. It will be exciting to see who will be on the national podium and represent Japan at Worlds.
 
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