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2016-17 State of Russian Ladies skating

Panenkova did two clean programs at test skates, Zagitova as I heard - clean LP. I would not say that all 9 skaters that got JGP assignments are better than Panenkova now. In fact, I doubt any of 9 can do the layot she does so clean. This case is quite exceptional. Girl can pretend on the highest junior titles with such jumps.
Most of skaters have on and off seasons interchanged, so it is not smart to grant one a spot solely based on previous season. Konstantinova was actually not great at last season but received weirdly high scores when won over Sotskova, but now at Saint Petersburg cup she did not do well at all. Lozko has fantastic spins but known for consistent URs. Similar can be said about Nugumanova. Gubanova had a bad season, still got JGP spots. I am not saying that these girls should have been taken away their spots... but I am sure there are others who are clearly not as good as Panenkova at this point but have spots.

Could age be a factor? Konstantinova is already 16 and Zagitova is 14.
 
All I want to know is did she accidentally take out her scrunchie at the end of the program, or was it part of the choreography? :laugh:

Seriously though, she's very impressive. Her spins and SS need more speed, but she's young, so I'm not worried.
 
This is madness! There are simply too many good skaters in Russia for one country to handle. They should spread the love to smaller federations :popcorn: by handing over some of their "B-Team" juniors...:biggrin: it's a win-win! The girls can have all the assignments they want, and the small federations get good skaters!

Is it possible for these girls to represent Uzbekistan? Isn't that what Tatiana Malinina did? She's from Russian, right?

When I saw her at Worlds, she was hanging out with this Woman...https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=Adaf...f4d1&w=182&h=183&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2
 
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Could age be a factor? Konstantinova is already 16 and Zagitova is 14.

I am pretty certain you are right, age is a factor. If Panenkova cannot be at OG-2018, then they consider there is no rush in putting her out Still both Gubanova and Lozko get JGP although they are too young for OG-2018 too. I think the federation could give Panenkova at least one spot to motivate her.
 
Is it possible for these girls to represent Uzbekistan? Isn't that what Tatiana Malinina did? She's from Russian, right?

When I saw her at Worlds, she was hanging out with this Woman...https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=Adaf...f4d1&w=182&h=183&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2

That won't work most likely. One has to realize - these girls are talented, but they need conditions both in terms of space and coaching/team work. I don't think any of Eteri girls could be as good without Eteri's team, not even trying to imagine how would it be with an extremely limited support that countries like Uzbekistan could provide them with. There were the cases - for ex. Shelepen, Afonikina - when the change of the country ended skaters as competitors.
 
Daria is an unusually combination: if she does not jump, she looks very clumsy and slow on ice, but when she jumps, she looks so effortless. How can she jump so well with such poor basics?
 
Dasha is actually a Rippon Queen :agree:. Soon to be - when the world gets to know about her.

Interestingly enough, both the originators of the Tano and Rippon themselves may be queens. Yasssss queens! [emoji119]

Don't quote me on that as I don't know Boitano's personal situation or sexuality.

Again, like the previous post, all in good fun and in no way meant to disparage anybody.
 
Panenkova did two clean programs at test skates, Zagitova as I heard - clean LP. I would not say that all 9 skaters that got JGP assignments are better than Panenkova now. In fact, I doubt any of 9 can do the layot she does so clean. This case is quite exceptional. Girl can pretend on the highest junior titles with such jumps.
Most of skaters have on and off seasons interchanged, so it is not smart to grant one a spot solely based on previous season. Konstantinova was actually not great at last season but received weirdly high scores when won over Sotskova, but now at Saint Petersburg cup she did not do well at all. Lozko has fantastic spins but known for consistent URs. Similar can be said about Nugumanova. Gubanova had a bad season, still got JGP spots. I am not saying that these girls should have been taken away their spots... but I am sure there are others who are clearly not as good as Panenkova at this point but have spots.

Even though this girl CAN jump (as there is not tomorrow) her SS and spins are not that good...
That being said I dont think that this girl would score that high in a JGP event...

Me thinking.... It is still uncertain what is happening with Fedichkina: could this girl take her place???
 
That won't work most likely. One has to realize - these girls are talented, but they need conditions both in terms of space and coaching/team work. I don't think any of Eteri girls could be as good without Eteri's team, not even trying to imagine how would it be with an extremely limited support that countries like Uzbekistan could provide them with. There were the cases - for ex. Shelepen, Afonikina - when the change of the country ended skaters as competitors.
Eteri coaches several skaters who will compete for a different country. Her own daughter will be, for example. And one of the boys (I think Kvietalashvili) too.
 
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Panenkova did two clean programs at test skates, Zagitova as I heard - clean LP. I would not say that all 9 skaters that got JGP assignments are better than Panenkova now. In fact, I doubt any of 9 can do the layot she does so clean. This case is quite exceptional. Girl can pretend on the highest junior titles with such jumps.
Most of skaters have on and off seasons interchanged, so it is not smart to grant one a spot solely based on previous season. Konstantinova was actually not great at last season but received weirdly high scores when won over Sotskova, but now at Saint Petersburg cup she did not do well at all. Lozko has fantastic spins but known for consistent URs. Similar can be said about Nugumanova. Gubanova had a bad season, still got JGP spots. I am not saying that these girls should have been taken away their spots... but I am sure there are others who are clearly not as good as Panenkova at this point but have spots.

Look, the bottom line is that Panenkova did not stand out the whole last season. The fact that she now managed to skate well at one competition does not mean that she is a great skater. She will have to do more than that to prove herself. I am sorry that sucks, but you can't expect them to drop skaters that proved themselves to make space for someone who managed to skate well at one competition. Panenkova did not even qualify to junior nationals. The at junior B, where the strongest skaters don't compete, she was only sixth. How can you possibly compare her with skaters like Gubanova, Nugumanova, Lozko, Samodurova etc?
 
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Panenkova did two clean programs at test skates, Zagitova as I heard - clean LP. I would not say that all 9 skaters that got JGP assignments are better than Panenkova now. In fact, I doubt any of 9 can do the layot she does so clean. This case is quite exceptional. Girl can pretend on the highest junior titles with such jumps.
Most of skaters have on and off seasons interchanged, so it is not smart to grant one a spot solely based on previous season. Konstantinova was actually not great at last season but received weirdly high scores when won over Sotskova, but now at Saint Petersburg cup she did not do well at all. Lozko has fantastic spins but known for consistent URs. Similar can be said about Nugumanova. Gubanova had a bad season, still got JGP spots. I am not saying that these girls should have been taken away their spots... but I am sure there are others who are clearly not as good as Panenkova at this point but have spots.

Russia is already better at spreading their options this year than last year. Now that Daria is in the list of subs at JGP6, at least there is a chance for her to make an appearance if 2 or more of the 8 girls with firm JGP assignments bombs. This shows they learned from last year where Lozko, Konstantinova and Samodurova were doing better domestically than Mikhailova, Mitrofanova and Pervushkina but still couldn't take JGP slots because they were off the sub list.
 
Eteri coaches several skaters who will compete for a different country. Her own daughter will be, for example. And one of the boys (I think Kvietalashvili) too.

How old is her daughter? And which country will she skate for?
 
Hi, sorry if this has already been asked - when are the test skates happening for senior skaters?
 
THIS,IS,IT :eekn::eekn::eekn: !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p314IvsUeSk

#dasha_to_jgp
Holy moly... She might be the next one pretty soon. Her jumps are like there is no tomorrow. Her skating skill needs to be a bit more polished tho, a bit lighter, and a bit less pressure at times in few turns and it should be there. Her skating actually reminds me of Wagner a bit. Almost always on the edge and in the accented big circle.
 
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