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2017 GP Cup of China Mens SP


“I solemnly swear I’m up to no good”
Record Breaker
Dec 29, 2013
I might be misinterpreting Javi’s remarks and maybe even out of context but I’m not certain he’s complaining his performance deserved higher scores. To me it could be read as he is getting feedback from the judges that he needs to improve his program based on the scores which are lower than he expected to get.

The dude is a world champion and probably has rather high expectations. Higher than most. He’ll get there. That’s why he is a world champion.


Record Breaker
Oct 23, 2011
This is first year I am Jin fan. Good everything much improved. He is a contender and Kolyada is too. Best sps of event.

As usual ladies event was better....


On the Ice
Aug 17, 2017

46.08 : ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2016
45.89 : ISU GP Trophee de France 2016
45.31 : ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final 2016
47.32 : ISU European Figure Skating Championships 2017
48.26 : ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2017

46.55 : 2017 Autumn Classic International
46.22 : ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017

It is not too bad.
However, it may not be enough to compare with other competitors.

48.55 : Yuzuru HANYU 2017 Autumn Classic International
46.61 : Yuzuru HANYU ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
46.55 : Javier FERNANDEZ 2017 Autumn Classic International
46.50 : Shoma UNO ISU GP 2017 Skate Canada International
46.42 : Patrick CHAN ISU GP 2017 Skate Canada International
46.22 : Javier FERNANDEZ ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017
45.70 : Shoma UNO 10th Lombardia Trophy 2017
45.07 : Jason BROWN ISU GP 2017 Skate Canada International
44.75 : Jason BROWN 10th Lombardia Trophy 2017
44.40 : Nathan CHEN 2017 US International Figure Skating Classic
43.60 : Mikhail KOLYADA ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
43.50 : Mikhail KOLYADA ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017
42.97 : Nathan CHEN ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
42.00 : Keegan MESSING 2017 Autumn Classic International
41.75 : Adam RIPPON Finlandia Trophy Espoo 2017
41.63 : Misha GE ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
41.22 : Boyang JIN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017
41.18 : Denis TEN ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
40.95 : Misha GE 2017 Autumn Classic International
40.86 : Han YAN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017
40.52 : Mikhail KOLYADA Finlandia Trophy Espoo 2017
40.32 : Dmitri ALIEV ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
40.19 : Jorik HENDRICKX ISU GP 2017 Skate Canada International
40.14 : Denis TEN 22nd INTERNATIONNAL CUP OF NICE 2017
40.11 : Deniss VASILJEVS ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
40.05 : Liam FIRUS 2017 US International Figure Skating Classic
39.65 : Mikhail KOLYADA 25th Ondrej Nepela Trophy

I think that the Javier Malagueña program was highly appreciated by the judges.
Compared to that, the program of this season 's Chaplin may be slightly disappointing.
I think that this program has too many numbers of songs used and it is distracted as a whole.
Since I saw this program at the ice show before the season, I thought so.
Javier may have a possibility of returning to Malagueña.


Record Breaker
Jan 25, 2013

"Sometimes I skate well, sometimes not so well. I have been training well during the competition, but I was not able to do a great short program," Fernández said. "The judges did not seem to like my program as I received low component scores."

He actually thinks he deserve higher component scores. Say what??? The guy from Eurosport live stream thought he was marked base on reputation and so with many of us here.

I think his style of choreography is kind of stale after seeing it over and over, over the years. Like those judges, I didn't like it too. It's looking a bit cheesy now.

Uhhh... what?! He was totally marked based on reputation, with up to 9.75. He's lucky to have cleared 45 points.

I loves me some Javi, but he scored over 90 with errors on two jumping passes (including turning a quad to a triple, and a triple to a double).

And yes, that was my fear with this Chaplin program... he isn't bringing anything new to the table.


Feb 9, 2014
I don't think anyone is doubting his components, but the TES with a 3t-2t and a messy 3A is inflated.

I looked up the GOEs the other skaters received with relevant mistakes at the sp.

Javi’s 3a with step out (good speed, complex preceding steps) ; -1.57
Max’s 3a with a hand down, (good speed, simple preceding steps);-1
Grant’s 4T with step out, (slow, telegraphed) ; -2.83

Javi’s 3t2t ( he changes axis of 4T in the air, saves landing and exits 2t with a left hand on the hip as part of choreography; 0.40
Han’s 3lz2t ( he lands forward on 3lz and adds a tight 2t) ; -0.4

I don’t think Javi’s TES/GOEs on two jump mistakes were terribly inflated, but within the range and quite justifiable.


Final Flight
Feb 18, 2017
Javi's program concept is not new, but the choreography/composition as a whole is finely constructed, step sequence in character and to the music. Probably the most mature and polished in this field.
A less than technically clean program (without a fall) may impact the "performance" subcategory, but I see no reason the rest of the PCS should be marked down.

I don't think Chaplin suits a competitive program, even Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze looked awkward with it. But this one from Fernandez actually changes my opinion to the positive, though certainly not as attractive as a dance concept or a rock concept.

It's still better than Bolero, which in my eyes is absolutely not for figure skating (Torvill/Dean included).

Blades of Passion

Skating is Art, if you let it be
Record Breaker
Sep 14, 2008
Great breakthrough performance for Kolyada. His quad lutz is so great, he still has room left in the in air by the time he is fully backwards! That's how jumps should be at their best. He doesn't get the same length on the jump as Boyang does but that's okay.