I agree...
There's something very appealing and "look at me" about that flow.
And I'm wondering if she was already in the midst of growth at that point... which might explain some of the less than ideal centring at times.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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There's something very appealing and "look at me" about that flow.
And I'm wondering if she was already in the midst of growth at that point... which might explain some of the less than ideal centring at times.
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The greatest issue with Tarakanova is her standing within the Russian fed. That is, even though she had some fantastic performances in the winter / spring domestic competitions, her scoring really was very low for the performances she had. This means it'll likely be difficult for her to even get jr worlds spots and such. And JGP success didn't do much to positively influence that.
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True but that doesn’t affect my enjoyment or respect for her. I’m accustomed to watching some of my favorites getting swallowed up by the state of Russian ladies skating. Skaters who would excel in almost any other federation at both the junior and senior levels.
I don’t really care much to make predictions about technique and longevity and all that. Sometimes it’s just fun to enjoy it while it lasts with minimal expectations. Ya never really know....sometimes they surprise us :yes:
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I don't understand how you guys deal with stanning female russians cause i'm too scared of getting emotionally attached. The Rus field is such a blood bath, you're out if you have a few moments of weakness, there's already an army behind you ready to kick you out of the rankings 
hwell:
i always admired them, watch their performances and try not to fall in love just in case their career is over as soon as it started! but here i am falling for Zagi, Kostornaia & Scherbakova
(pray for my baby girls)! i started loving Medove only recently but maybe a bit late as some mouthbreathers are already predicting her downfall is gonna happen soon but i guess joining the fandom right now could be the perfect timing in case she kicks ass again next season 
hwell: i always admired them, watch their performances and try not to fall in love just in case their career is over as soon as it started! but here i am falling for Zagi, Kostornaia & Scherbakova
(pray for my baby girls)! i started loving Medove only recently but maybe a bit late as some mouthbreathers are already predicting her downfall is gonna happen soon but i guess joining the fandom right now could be the perfect timing in case she kicks ass again next season 
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I'm going to initiate by saying that I'm probably incredibly biased considering that Nastia is by far my favourite of the remaining Eteri girls and probably my favourite junior full stop at the moment. I would disagree though in regards to her jumps whilst yes her axises aren't always amazing they are a lot easier to fix as far as I know then having small jumps and the fact she doesn't rely on having fast rotation is good because that is what would make her suffer more during puberty--this is why I think someone like Scherbakova and even Trusova who I feel looks as though she is about to shoot up are more likely to have troubles though I'm not exactly an expert. Furthermore Nastia does have some of the best toe picking technique in the group as she doesn't tend to toe axel the was that Kostornaia, Scherbakova and Trusova can (though they don't always) so
hwell:. As well as much as I have problems with Eteri she has done a really good job at making her consistent and i think the only competition she really messed up in was Zagreb where she hit her head. As well in regards to Alena I much prefer Nastia. As much as this seems to be an unpopular opinion I find Alena quite dull to watch especially in her free which I think suffers from backloading and whilst her short grew on me enough that I could watch it all the way through when I first watched the junior grand prix final her free was the program that I found myself scrolling on my phone for--though this is completely a reflection on my personal preferences in what I like to watch (both of Nastia's programs and Sasha's short were my favourites and the main programs that I rewatch) but I do admit that she does have a nice control over her upper body but I find that she skates very small compared to Sasha and Nastia.
I think Nastia does have higher jumps which can have more flow when her axis is under control (which isn't always I do concede) and her spins are far better. She has so much power and speed going into those spins and she does some really nice positions which I love seeing considering the fact that we tend to see the same spins again and again and whilst Alena does them nicely she doesn't bring anything that new to them. Nastia does a spin that I think Sotnikova invented and I don't remember anyone else doing though there are probably a couple other skaters who do it and wants to invent new ones which I think is super cool and interesting.
I agree with Shayuki though her problem is that she is Eteri's third junior girl and they don't want to have Eteri domination which is why she (and Panenkova to an extent) where held down at junior nats because they've definitely jumped on to having the quad girl and mini Kostner (whose also very reliable which she has over both Nastia and Sasha) as their best two whether I agree with it or not and as a result there is no room for Nastia unless she can get a quad especially considering that Scherbakova is seemingly coming back equipped with quads.
I don't understand how you guys deal with stanning female russians cause i'm too scared of getting emotionally attached. The Rus field is such a blood bath, you're out if you have a few moments of weakness, there's already an army behind you ready to kick you out of the rankings
Nastia is the only junior that I really stan and I do my best not to get attached but she has been stressing me out to much lately with first her having bronchitis then the rumours of anorexia and now we don't know if she is still working with Eteri, has a new coach or just isn't training. My plan B for her though if she isn't able to break into Russian seniors well is for her to go into ice dance because she has really good skating skills and twizzles
I love this video of her from last year becuase it shows off her amazing speed with basically no cross overs.
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I don't think she has a better Axel than Alena or Sasha, though which is what I was replying too. It's not as bad as say Zhenya or Alina's, but certainly not better than her junior competitors. The last spin is impressive (in the position) but if you look at her feet, she travels quite a bit and slows down a lot when she changes positions. And while her positions are flexible, I'm not sure what it is but they just look very uncontrolled to me. I don't think she deserves +4/5 in GOE other than 3Lz, and maybe step sequence
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I'm going to initiate by saying that I'm probably incredibly biased considering that Nastia is by far my favourite of the remaining Eteri girls and probably my favourite junior full stop at the moment. I would disagree though in regards to her jumps whilst yes her axises aren't always amazing they are a lot easier to fix as far as I know then having small jumps and the fact she doesn't rely on having fast rotation is good because that is what would make her suffer more during puberty--this is why I think someone like Scherbakova and even Trusova who I feel looks as though she is about to shoot up are more likely to have troubles though I'm not exactly an expert. Furthermore Nastia does have some of the best toe picking technique in the group as she doesn't tend to toe axel the was that Kostornaia, Scherbakova and Trusova can (though they don't always) so
As well in regards to Alena I much prefer Nastia. As much as this seems to be an unpopular opinion I find Alena quite dull to watch especially in her free which I think suffers from backloading and whilst her short grew on me enough that I could watch it all the way through when I first watched the junior grand prix final her free was the program that I found myself scrolling on my phone for--though this is completely a reflection on my personal preferences in what I like to watch (both of Nastia's programs and Sasha's short were my favourites and the main programs that I rewatch) but I do admit that she does have a nice control over her upper body but I find that she skates very small compared to Sasha and Nastia.
I think Nastia does have higher jumps which can have more flow when her axis is under control (which isn't always I do concede) and her spins are far better. She has so much power and speed going into those spins and she does some really nice positions which I love seeing considering the fact that we tend to see the same spins again and again and whilst Alena does them nicely she doesn't bring anything that new to them. Nastia does a spin that I think Sotnikova invented and I don't remember anyone else doing though there are probably a couple other skaters who do it and wants to invent new ones which I think is super cool and interesting.
I agree with Shayuki though her problem is that she is Eteri's third junior girl and they don't want to have Eteri domination which is why she (and Panenkova to an extent) where held down at junior nats because they've definitely jumped on to having the quad girl and mini Kostner (whose also very reliable which she has over both Nastia and Sasha) as their best two whether I agree with it or not and as a result there is no room for Nastia unless she can get a quad especially considering that Scherbakova is seemingly coming back equipped with quads.
Nastia is the only junior that I really stan and I do my best not to get attached but she has been stressing me out to much lately with first her having bronchitis then the rumours of anorexia and now we don't know if she is still working with Eteri, has a new coach or just isn't training. My plan B for her though if she isn't able to break into Russian seniors well is for her to go into ice dance because she has really good skating skills and twizzles
I love this video of her from last year becuase it shows off her amazing speed with basically no cross overs.
Nastya's jumps are not higher than Trusova's. I believe there was an article some time ago that calculated jump height for skaters and Trusova's jumps were huge for the junior field. I would argue that if any of the Russians would "survive" puberty, it'd be her triples. Tilted axis may not be the most difficult to fix, but when you're competing against others who have no jump issues (other than Alena's sometimes flutz), then you're still the weakest. And her spins are not faster/ more centered than Alena's, and I couldn't say there positions and changes between are better/smoother. I think Nastya's problem is that though she is a good skater, she isn't on the level of Sasha/Alena and though she has the best skating skills (IMO) of them, that alone doesn't make up for the other things
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Yes, Trusova's jumps are definitely higher than Tarakanova's. The only jump of Tarakanova's that could compare is the Lutz but I still don't think she's had a Lutz as big as the 3Lutz by Trusova in the worlds SP.
As for Shcherbakova, her jumps definitely are tiny. On the other hand, the 4Lutz she jumped in practice is as big as any jump Trusova's jumped, so I imagine she would have some more in reserve. It's also worth mentioning that she has the fastest rotation speed out of all ladies by a significant margin so I doubt it could possibly sink below average even if it slows down in the future.
As for Shcherbakova, her jumps definitely are tiny. On the other hand, the 4Lutz she jumped in practice is as big as any jump Trusova's jumped, so I imagine she would have some more in reserve. It's also worth mentioning that she has the fastest rotation speed out of all ladies by a significant margin so I doubt it could possibly sink below average even if it slows down in the future.
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Japanese fans are reporting that Zhenya invited Anna to jump together at DOI's finale, and they did a side by side 3lz:
https://twitter.com/khyukio/status/1015852344783691776?s=19
https://twitter.com/schumino1/status/1015845453684867072?s=19
https://twitter.com/khyukio/status/1015852344783691776?s=19
https://twitter.com/schumino1/status/1015845453684867072?s=19
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Actually I'll save it for later.
Anna's English though is probably the best out of all the Russian girls? At least the ones I've heard... Her accent is ridiculously good for a Russian, seriously. And the word choices were proper, grammar too. For me, that came out of nowhere. Was there any indication...
Anna's English though is probably the best out of all the Russian girls? At least the ones I've heard... Her accent is ridiculously good for a Russian, seriously. And the word choices were proper, grammar too. For me, that came out of nowhere. Was there any indication...
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Do we have any news on her at all? Have there been any updates on whether she is training again or not?
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@Shayuki Actually, her English is really good! I met her in person some months ago and she speaks nearly fluently and understands everything! I remember that everyone was impressed by Kostornaia’s Englisch at GPF but Anna speaks so much better (no offence to Alyona!).
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She's just talented at everything, huh? Just the accent is simply amazing, I've literally never heard a Russian person with such an accent unless they've actually been in an English-speaking country as an exchange student or something... Did she get that just by studying alongside skating? It took me years of focusing on it to get rid of my Finnish accent but Finnish English education in general starts at an earlier age and is considered more important... Hmm, I guess one could write her a letter in English then with no problems. :think:
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Exactly my thought. I assume Zhenya is better at spontaneous communication as for now, but Anya has a much better pronunciation.
Frankly, at first I thought someone's helping her with instagram posts, then I supposed Anya had learned her short speech in English (which is still impressive for such an introvert), but now after Undino's post I'm in total awe.
I like the program, i still think she is better with a less frantic music, but she handled this very well until the steps sequence.
She is still a beautiful skater, love her spins, love her posture, she is truly a ballerina on the ice but the jumps are Satoko-like: fast rotation with no height, they look worse than before.
Very nice program, she looks fine, the 3ltz still needs work but good thing that she is trying, it will get better.
What about speed and ice coverage?
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Please...someone tell me Anna is only using Rondo Caprisscioso as an exhibition. 
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It looks too much like a FP, the jumps, the length...Please...someone tell me Anna is only using Rondo Caprisscioso as an exhibition.
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Not very likely considering it's junior FS length, has a proper 7 jump layout and that Eteri juniors don't get separate exhibition programs.Please...someone tell me Anna is only using Rondo Caprisscioso as an exhibition.
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But what about Alena's Carmen?
O was hoping she would use it as a SP but boy her programs are already set.
I liked Anna's program tbh
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