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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

Thank you Skatenewbie. I never knew it was THAT complicated:)
This really underscores why it's critical for the federation to get the ladies to as many Challenger Series and other ISU events as they can.

Domestic scores and rankings aren't considered in ISU rankings - - and it's ISU rankings that determine GP berths other than the host picks for Rostelecom.

With so few berths at Europeans and Worlds in relation to the number of ladies, those coming up or having an off-season can get into a downward spiral in ISU rankings unless the federation gets them out to the Challenger 'B' or smaller 'C' events to build up their rankings.
 
NHK had weird scores.

I thought the Russians in ice dance were robbed, as was Liza for the silver.

Unfortunately, geopolitics comes first. The same happened to Melkinova in the final of floor in the world artistic gymnastics with very low score that took her off the podium.
 
Bad timing. If she were born a week earlier... She is another little angel with some fierce quality in her. Hope she develops a 3A or a quad in the coming two seasons.
her bd 07/07/07 so it's 2 years/seasons more till she'll be eligible for JGP
season 19/20- Born before July 1, 2006 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Valieva, Usacheva .... and other
season 20/21- Born before July 1, 2007 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Samodelkina ... and other
season 21/22- Born before July 1, 2008 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Akatieva, Berestovskaya ... and other
 
her bd 07/07/07 so it's 2 years/seasons more till she'll be eligible for JGP
season 19/20- Born before July 1, 2006 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Valieva, Usacheva .... and other
season 20/21- Born before July 1, 2007 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Samodelkina ... and other
season 21/22- Born before July 1, 2008 - Eligible for Junior Grand Prix - (Akatieva, Berestovskaya ... and other

So much talent in the younger and older novice ranks. I fell in love with some skaters who scored in the middle, not top ten, often they fell on every jump. BUT, you could see the raw power in the jumps. I wrote their names down and look forward to seeing how they grow and progress in the years to come. I have a feeling there are some Trusovas just waiting to emerge. LOL
 
Yes, it's true and my mistake. Current standings for the three spots are Gubanova, Talalaikina and then Nugumanova. The thing is that Russian Cup stages aren't just qualifications to nationals, they're also qualifications to the Cup Final, which is not only good competitive experience but a chance to get back some standing if one WDs from nationals or skates poorly there - it's probably a reason Shcherbakova was on the JGP at all - she beat Trusova there last year. Stripping this experience of skating at Russian Cups away from those who have already qualified to nationals also means that they can't skate at the Cup Final. And there's no guarantee that Trusova and Kostornaya won't be at stage 5 since it's in Moscow and to make the cup final they must skate at two stages. It's bad enough to me that they forced Shcherbakova to skate in juniors here because now she can't make the cup final at all since she skated seniors in event II and juniors in event IV.
Skaters who have not qualified through the Russian Cup stages can skate at the Russian Cup Final. It's not a hard and fast requirement. E.g. last season Samarin only did one Russian Cup event but skated at the Russian Cup Final. Kolyada planned to skate at the Russian Cup Final in 2017 without going to any Russian Cup events (he withdrew due to back problems). Of the ladies last season, Tuktamysheva did not qualify through the Russian Cup, she did not skate in a single event.

I think the idea is that weak skaters have to worry about qualifying since not just anyone who feels like it can skate, there is a certain cutoff. Top skaters can just turn up.
 
Yeah i watched a couple of his livestream (before i discovered i have Eurosport on my TV), and yeah the chat was nothing different from what you can find on other channel on youtube unfortunately.

During the men event they were complaining that there are too many gays in Figure Skating. :slink:

Just a side note.
As far as i know - as i chatted with the guy several times in the youtube chat between or before the competitions - the "Fanpage Zagitova" seems to be an overall polite, educated and nice person. I also never seen him engage in any major BS.
The streams are illegal, yep, wonder why anyone is even surprised by that. Of course it is. But then it is the only option for many people to watch FS live so I will not condemn here.
Last but not least, the channel owner can hardly control the chat. If you people blame the channel for people being stupid in the chat, please add Ted to the "hate" list, because the chat during junior grand prix events used to be really awful. It is pretty much impossible to moderate such chats real time, due to sheer amount of comments people write in like 5 different languages.

I really see no reason to randomly hate a person based on some entirely random rumor posted by a random poster.
 
I'm not often wowed by skating performances besides those of our Russian girls, but Rika Kihira's free skate at this week's NHK was really something special...https://youtu.be/xGjuadp0pSc. If, going forward, she can repeat this performance with a reasonable amount of consistency, does she become the single biggest threat to Alina's recent dominance? How would the two stack up against each other? (They're only two months apart in age, so could be an exciting rivalry.)
 
I'm not often wowed by skating performances besides those of our Russian girls, but Rika Kihira's free skate at this week's NHK was really something special...https://youtu.be/xGjuadp0pSc. If, going forward, she can repeat this performance with a reasonable amount of consistency, does she become the single biggest threat to Alina's recent dominance? How would the two stack up against each other? (They're only two months apart in age, so could be an exciting rivalry.)

The biggest question is simply if. In order to gain momentum and higher PCS, she will need to skate clean. As someone has said - she had a great free skate but fell in the short. She fell in the short at Ondrej Nepela.

Alina's dominance will continue. I think Helsinki was just nerves, people were already writing her off and saying she lost her jumps which is nonsense. Anyways, Alina has a fighting spirit. At the GPF I am sure she will skate clean and retain her title. Her tech scores are already huge, and her program components are as well. Rika will need to raise that second score. And until she does that, there's no point in speculating her taking Alina's #1 spot. I would discuss it more if Alina is shaky at CoR (hopefully not :pray:) or if Rika keeps skating clean.

One thing is for sure, as of right now, a clean Alina will beat a clean Rika.
 
Rika's TES at Nepela: 40.67 + 81.05 = 121,72
Rika's TES at NHK: 38.40 + 87.17 = 125,57
Average: 123,65

Alina's TES at Nebelhorn: 43.53 + 83.54 = 127,07
Alina's TES at JO (FS Only): 84.95
Alina's TES at Helsinki: 33.1 + 74.28 = 107,38
Average: 119,24

Average TES difference between two girls is about 4 points now. Just saying that Alina is not that behind.

In fact, a clean Alina has nearly same TES (43 + 85 = 128) as a clean Rika (41+87 = 128)
 
Rika's TES at Nepela: 40.67 + 81.05 = 121,72
Rika's TES at NHK: 38.40 + 87.17 = 125,57
Average: 123,65

Alina's TES at Nebelhorn: 43.53 + 83.54 = 127,07
Alina's TES at JO (FS Only): 84.95
Alina's TES at Helsinki: 33.1 + 74.28 = 107,38
Average: 119,24

Average TES difference between two girls is about 4 points now. Just saying that Alina is not that behind.

In fact, a clean Alina has nearly same TES (43 + 85 = 128) as a clean Rika (41+87 = 128)
Clean Rika will have 46+87. Her SP 40.67 from ONT is with fall in 3A, which result -5 point.
 
Golden Spin entries: Gubanova, Tuktamysheva, Pogorilaya
Still nothing for Gulyakova, who is a sub, alongside Gracheva, Sakhanovich, and Safonova. But I'm not optimistic about Pogorilaya competing here since she WD from three events and said she would miss nationals.
 
Golden Spin entries: Gubanova, Tuktamysheva, Pogorilaya
Still nothing for Gulyakova, who is a sub, alongside Gracheva and Safonova. But I'm not optimistic about Pogorilaya competing here since she WD from three events and said she would miss nationals.

When it comes to Liza, doesn't Golden Spin overlap with the GPF?
 
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