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Russian Elder Age Novices Championship 2019
Iceberg Palace, Sochi Olympic park.

05.04.2019

10:30 msk - boys, free skate

14:30 msk - girls, free skate

The live stream will be at JuniorTV channel (45 minutes countdown to the boys' FS)
youtube.com/watch?v=welsjgc8nss

Maximilian Ermolin - group 3, nr.11
Andrey Mozalev - group 5, nr.21
Vladislav Dikiji - group 5, nr.22
Georgiy Kunitsa - group 5, nr.23
Matvey Vetlugin - group 5, nr.24
Andrey Kutovoy - group 5, nr.25
Ilya Yablokov - group 5, nr.26

Link is geoblocked unfortunately.

Do you have the link for the results?

I'm rewatching some of the performances, i've to say Matvei Vetlugin's artistry is developing really well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgjTmfRZe4
 
The off-season is close. The previous one was marked by unprecedented attacks on Eteri - multiple threads "dedicated" to her were created. I hope that those who did it have calmed down.

I am writing this because one of the key accusations was that she ruined career of Adian Pitkeev. In his recent interview he speaks about what he thinks of Eteri and his experience.

Have you ever heard about systems of dependencies? :rolleye: Do you really expect Adian or any other of Eteri’s former skaters who are currently building up their coaching career to openly say something negative on Russian Fed’s chosen coach, who has a lot of political influence? Of course not! :disapp: These skaters will avoid anything to cause conflict. In particular Adian. With his health issues it will be difficult enough to work successfully as a coach. In addition Adian is a polite young man, he simply would never wash dirty laundry in public and speak badly about anyone - as opposed to his coach, who accused Adian, who can hardly work longer than two hours with little kids without having to lay down afterwards due to back pain, of having an attitude in practice and other things. :devil:

Instead of isolatedly highlighting passages in the text, I’d recommend reading a bit between the lines. You can feel a difference in the way Adian thanks Eteri and how he thanks Buyanova, cant‘ you? One coach was not really interested to search for the reason of Adian’s back pain (of course, when she thought it’s an attitude :sarcasm: ), the other one did everything to help. And Adian is visibly fed up with always being asked about it. I can see how hard he tries to move on, to look forward and not back, as this would not help him at all. :sad21:

The main scandal for me is that Eteri, Sambo and RF apparently follow the „once you step off the podium you are a nobody approach“ very stringently. I’m shocked that Adian hat to pay all the medical bills by himself. It seems that only at ZSKA he got a little help with that. I hope many skating parents read this interview and take their conclusions from it. With a federation who does not care anymore about athletes once it seems they are done and no longer able to compete parents should think twice (and obviously check their financial background) before letting their kids engage in this sport. What Russian fed and others do here is just an irresponsible and ruthless approach considering the fact that those in danger are not adults, who can assess the risks involved when making their choice. In most countries where a sport is at a level as figure skating is in Russia, the federation would conclude some kind of health insurance for their athletes so that they won’t be left alone after getting injured. But while they don’t care about health care for their athletes’ health RF is quick to take away part of their price money. Looks like it’s only the skaters who have obligations towards RF, their coaches, their country but no one bears any responsibility towards the skaters. :dev2:

It by the way fits in the overall picture that the main conclusion the Eteri-fanclub draws from this interview is „it’s defense for Eteri, it was not her fault“, no compassion for Adian whatsoever or questioning the system. :rolleye:
 
Thank you! I’m so happy he continues skating! :hap10::hap10::hap10:


Dima seems to develop into a 2nd Kostantin Menshov – great clips from practices but landing jumps in competition seems to be mission impossible. But good to see he is in good shape. I wish he’ll be able to realize his potential. :pray:
 
if someone could traslate it, it would be great :pray:

Well if you don't mind google here's some of it:

- Sergey, the last time I expected to see you at the championship of Russia in Saransk. But you did not go to the gym, and later there were news about the injury. What happened then?

- We are not starting with the most pleasant topic, of course, but you can’t throw out the words from the song. The first half of the season I spent successfully, rich. I had tickets to Saransk in my arms - I had to fly to the Russian championship in the evening, at 23:00, not with the whole team, but with a later flight. There were no tickets for Aeroflot.

I spent the morning workout normally, and in the evening I decided to just go for a drive. He came to the gym to warm up and landed badly with a jump. My knee periodically aches a bit - the effects of a chronic injury that need to be monitored. But, apparently, at that time there was such an overload that the body simply could not stand it. One unsuccessful awkward movement, and there was a relapse. Sorry, of course. History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, but, probably, I could say my word this season, I would not be lost. On the other hand, it means it should be so. Time passes, time heals. I look forward. I also want to ride, and I have something to say.

- Now, it turns out, you are already in order and training?

- Yes, absolutely. No crime and there was, just the body needed a break in loads to recover. Theoretically, it was possible to rush and try to perform in Saransk, but such injuries are a cat in a bag. The result could be sad. Now I train, put new programs. There are ideas and ideas. In the future - next season - I look with optimism and a desire to ride. It seems to me that in my status and in the present circumstances desire and freshness are the most important.

- Are you ready to talk about new programs now?

- I have been a supporter of my whole career as an approach to first make and show, and then talk about it. I can only say that I really like the music we have chosen. Now the task is to translate it into a program and into life. If everything works out, then we can discuss it.
 
I still don't understand why he suddenly began putting the quad flip into both of his programs toward the end of the season.

Because they think he's going to land it, and that will keep him relevant. Samarin was never consistent even with his easier layout, and this season he's probably in the best form he's ever been, but he just can't perform miracles. Also, he barely managed to handle the pressure of coming into a competition as the number one. He's definitely not anymore ready than the other guys in Russia.
 
I still don't understand why he suddenly began putting the quad flip into both of his programs toward the end of the season.

The way Tarasova talked about it was like this is more of a test trying a new element, so if it was just a test with no pressure, then why the disappointment in the KnC? That to me proved he wanted to skate clean, then he should have skated programs with the contents he practiced every day (only one quad in the short).

The results here and at Worlds to me proved Mishin's strategy with Lazukin (do less but better with a more comfortable layout) is paying off and russian coaches should take note instead of forcing their skaters to do crazy difficult layout just to match the technical contents of the top skaters, even though they are not consistent with
 
In the history Of figure skating has anyone been as bad as Samarin after almost winning euros
 
Well to be, even just for a moment, optimistic, looking at the success the Russian men are currently enjoying in gymnastics after being left out for so long gives me hope that at some point the men in skating can turn it around too :pray:
 
The way Tarasova talked about it was like this is more of a test trying a new element, so if it was just a test with no pressure, then why the disappointment in the KnC? That to me proved he wanted to skate clean, then he should have skated programs with the contents he practiced every day (only one quad in the short).

The results here and at Worlds to me proved Mishin's strategy with Lazukin (do less but better with a more comfortable layout) is paying off and russian coaches should take note instead of forcing their skaters to do crazy difficult layout just to match the technical contents of the top skaters, even though they are not consistent with

Agreed. "Less is often more" when you don't have the strength and stamina to pull through your routine.
I wonder though, do the Russian men have the same strict training regime and 'control' over them by their trainers as the young and adolescent girls do? The men are older, mostly adults, and probably supposed to take care of many things themselves, or not wanting to be patronised all the time?
 
At last the word was spoken :)- Valentin Piseev, the honorary president of RusFed, explained why men's discipline is lagging behind in Russia:

https://iz.ru/868988/valentin-piseev/masterstvo-na-prokat

Apparently the problem is that men are coached by different coaches and don't come under pressure of a day-to day internal competition (read: a-la Eteri's camp) so the solution is obvious: to bring them all together, let them fight against each other and see what happens.

He also made a promise which sounds more like a thread ''in some cases where the results are awaited for too long, there should be some radical measures taken''


Send them all to Siberia to toughen up!!!
 
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