2018 JGP Ostrava Ladies Short Program

[leoleo]

vasilieva got a ! on her flip and really low goes in general! no ur calls as people expected

 

[Fluture]

I pray Yelim doesn’t get nervous and pulls it all together for the free skate - I know she’s capable.
I know people are wishing for her to fail - so here’s some positivity for her - fingers crossed

Why would people want her to fail? I want her to grab that silver medal (but only because I so desperately want Alena to win gold) and get into that JGPF. I hope she slays that FS!

 

[Ziotic]

I actually think this is the perfect position for Yelim.

She’s not trying to hold onto the second place she needs to fight to get it. I think this will help with the pressure as she has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Just to put things in perspective, both Ting and Yelim got higher GOE on their 2A than Alina's incredible 2A with the hardest entry to date.
And Nebelhorn was pretty generous.

 

[leoleo]

I actually think this is the perfect position for Yelim.

She’s not trying to hold onto the second place she needs to fight to get it. I think this will help with the pressure as she has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

she's been pretty consistent so far this season so i'm keeping my hopes up!

@Spirals for Miles! why so angry? what would you say to those people who have been crying for hours about Alina getting higher PCS scores than Yuzuru Hanyu then? it's two different judging panels and people did argue that alina had minor issues on her other jumps (tarasova too just said that) yet she got really high GOEs on them so what exactly are you trying to prove?

 

[Ziotic]

she's been pretty consistent so far this season so i'm keeping my hopes up!

@Spirals for Miles! why so angry? what would you say to those people who have been crying for hours about Alina getting higher PCS scores than Yuzuru Hanyu then? it's two different judging panels and people did argue that alina had minor issues on her other jumps (tarasova too just said that) yet she got really high GOEs on them so what exactly are you trying to prove?

She’s trying to prove that no matter how they skate, Russians deserve to reign supreme...


Best of luck to Yelim.

 

[frida80]

Just to put things in perspective, both Ting and Yelim got higher GOE on their 2A than Alina's incredible 2A with the hardest entry to date.
And Nebelhorn was pretty generous.

Both of the are training 3A. So they get great height and distance.

 

[Fluture]

Just to put things in perspective, both Ting and Yelim got higher GOE on their 2A than Alina's incredible 2A with the hardest entry to date.
And Nebelhorn was pretty generous.

Junior competitions always were a bit crazy with the scores, though. No, seriously, Ting and Yelim have wonderful 2A, very good height and flow. Alina had a bit shaky landing on hers and she doesn't get as much height even if her entry indeed is insanely difficult. She did very well but so did Yelim and Ting. It's two different competitions in different categories (junior and senior) anyway. I don't think you can really judge that...

 

[j00mla]

Talking about Vasilieva' scores... I'm being trying to write a comment and don't violate forum rules. And I still couldn't.

One more try?

as for all russian final, i am about 95% sure that there is some sort of agreement with ISU that does not encourage rusfed to allocate skaters in a way to make that likely

no need at all, judges can do it by themselves

 

[WhiteProphet]

 

[frida80]

I'll be praying she'll pull off a FS like she did last time. Of course I love watching her skate regardless of scores, but with the stakes...

Regardless of what happens Saturday, Yelim has made a huge leap forward with her skating. The quality has improved so much. Not only is she definately going to 4CC, but she’s put herself in the running for that Worlds slot. I am so proud and inspired by her progress.

 

[rikaquegira]

Just to put things in perspective, both Ting and Yelim got higher GOE on their 2A than Alina's incredible 2A with the hardest entry to date.
And Nebelhorn was pretty generous.

It's not like Yelim and Cui had no difficult entry... Also, they have much better axel than Alina(who has a pretty good axel but it's just not as big as Yelim's and Cui's). Alina's landing also looked a bit tight. I think it's probably her posture, which imo, affects everything she does on the ice.

Not that you can/should actually compare scores across different events but:

Yelim:
https://youtu.be/QrGWMh8bSFw?t=2m1s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/QrGWMh8bSFw?t=4m35s


Ting:
https://youtu.be/1Xc_mHrwC-4?t=57s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/1Xc_mHrwC-4?t=3m56s


Alina:
https://youtu.be/0geposV4N-A?t=2m4s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/0geposV4N-A?t=5m9s


Please, do tell me what would the GOE be for these jumps on your book! I think it could be a good exercise. Let's check some bullets!

1) very good height and very good length (of all jumps in a combo or sequence)
2) good take-off and landing
3) effortless throughout (including rhythm in Jump combination)
4) steps before the jump, unexpected or creative entry
5) very good body position from take-off to landing
6) element matches the music

 

[rikaquegira]

It's not like Yelim and Cui had no difficult entry... Also, they have much better axel than Alina(who has a pretty good axel but it's just not as big as Yelim's and Cui's). Alina's landing also looked a bit tight. I think it's probably her posture, which imo, affects everything she does on the ice.

Not that you can/should actually compare scores across different events but:

Yelim:
https://youtu.be/QrGWMh8bSFw?t=2m1s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/QrGWMh8bSFw?t=4m35s


Ting:
https://youtu.be/1Xc_mHrwC-4?t=57s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/1Xc_mHrwC-4?t=3m56s


Alina:
https://youtu.be/0geposV4N-A?t=2m4s
slowmotion:
https://youtu.be/0geposV4N-A?t=5m9s


Please, do tell me what would the GOE be for these jumps on your book! I think it could be a good exercise. Let's check some bullets!

1) very good height and very good length (of all jumps in a combo or sequence)
2) good take-off and landing
3) effortless throughout (including rhythm in Jump combination)
4) steps before the jump, unexpected or creative entry
5) very good body position from take-off to landing
6) element matches the music

PS.: With that said, I do think both events are looking very, very generous!

 

[Ichatdelune]

It's late, I'm going to bed. I'm going to pray with all my heart that Yelim may be her best on her free and get her ticket for JGPF, that Alyona may smile in satisfaction, and that Seoyoung may perform as wonderfully as she did today.

 

[leoleo]

Regardless of what happens Saturday, Yelim has made a huge leap forward with her skating. The quality has improved so much. Not only is she definately going to 4CC, but she’s put herself in the running for that Worlds slot. I am so proud and inspired by her progress.

yeah i'm just happy to see her skating so confidently! i don't think she stands a chance against most russian girls right now (she has good jumps but her programs are still lacking in expressions and transitions) but she is surely improving at her own rhythm. She's also pretty consistent so far.

 

[leoleo]

just realized that Alena & Ting did not get edge calls on their lutzes

 

[rikaquegira]

just realized that Alena & Ting did not get edge calls on their lutzes

this panel gives 0 effs!

 

[leoleo]

this panel gives 0 effs!

well it's nothing new but i was especially surprised to see vasilieva and araki's scores! i expected vasilieva's pcs to be higher and araki's tes was... suspicious

 

[rikaquegira]

well it's nothing new but i was especially surprised to see vasilieva and araki's scores! i expected vasilieva's pcs to be higher and araki's tes was... suspicious

I just hope they are saving the best "officials" for the Final... Otherwise things can get REALLY messy!
A flutz not called for instance can make or break the results when the best of the best are skating.

 

[yume]

I'm sorry but judges must have smoke something. Or they slept really well and got really good news this morning, and then were in a good mood all the day.

And something tells me that Nana has Mai's syndrome. Her skate is not that inferior to Cui's and Kim's.