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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

There will be second part of the Japaneese show, where 4A had a fun.
55 minutes countdown to the start.

Duration is 2 hours.
The first hour may be about another sports (the same was last time).
 
Tavi... said:
I’m actually not missing the point - I just disagree. This may be a cultural difference. First, in the US, you don’t have to be an “authority” in order to express your opinion on something. Anyone can express an opinion on anything.

Second, I think you might have some mistaken ideas about TSL. Dave has a full time job in a field completely unrelated to skating. Jonathan is a professional musician. If they make money from TSL I doubt it’s much. They are both knowledgeable skating fans with strong opinions. In other words, they’re not too different from most people on this board, except they talk about their opinions on TSL and use their real names instead of screen names.

And third, I disagree that things posted here don’t have the same impact as things said on TSL. Skaters and their families are aware of what’s said about them on figure skating message boards. They read YouTube comments and responses to their tweets and Instagram posts and see their @mentions on social media. If a skater hears that something “hateful” was said about them or their skating, it will hurt them no matter where the comment was made. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that just because comments on message boards are anonymous, they are invisible and have no impact.
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1. NOT ONLY USA. Anywhere you can express your opinion online even if you don't know what you are talking about. The problem appears when a certain public needs to eat up that opinion. I filter and dismiss a lot of what I read, see online because i don't like or trust the source, TSL in this case. This is what I meant by "authentic"

2. Even for people that are not an “authority” there is a profesionnal/ constructive way to direct a criticism towards a person or a group. Ironically, I find more troubling now knowing those guys (tsl) professions and the fact that they talk like that.

TSL are not better than a high school girl calling me at recess mcdonalds because I use glasses and have a 5 euro shirt. Not to mention that at 13 yo you are way to young to form a style of your own.
 
neud said:
Neither are yours.
I would like people to keep in mind that most of them are not professionals in figure skating and some of their "opinions" or "critique" about professional's work might look utterly ridiculous from the professional's point of view.
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If only professionals are allowed to criticise or even critique, well then it's a sad world we live in
 
I guess nobody knows the law here (I depend here on Russina law). U can't say it's my opinion here so respect it because according the law your opinion can be published only on your OWN social page (Facebook, Instagram, twitter or your OWN youtube channel). If it's published in a place that isn't owned by you like this forum it became your comment So if your comment(s) consists humilation or insult it became a crime againts honor and diginity.
SO STOP CALLING YOUR COMMENTS YOUR OPINIONS. if you want to write to your social net page and write it there.
Same about A. Gubanova. What she said about Zagitova goes as slander (doesn't have any facts). And her small age as some people here used as defendence doesn't matter because she already was over 14yo at the moment when she was saying this. So there could be a trial against her. The words that Alina doesn't care can't be an exuse.
 
Lana05 said:
I guess nobody knows the law here (I depend here on Russina law). U can't say it's my opinion here so respect it because according the law your opinion can be published only on your OWN social page (Facebook, Instagram, twitter or your OWN youtube channel). If it's published in a place that isn't owned by you like this forum it became your comment So if your comment(s) consists humilation or insult it became a crime againts honor and diginity.
SO STOP CALLING YOUR COMMENTS YOUR OPINIONS. if you want to write to your social net page and write it there.
Same about A. Gubanova. What she said about Zagitova goes as slander (doesn't have any facts). And her small age as some people here used as defendence doesn't matter because she already was over 14yo at the moment when she was saying this. So there could be a trial against her. The words that Alina doesn't care can't be an exuse.
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And so what do you expect us to do? Cut off our internet and live in a rut? [emoji28] Gonna get sanctioned for this, but f the law.
 
Lana05 said:
I guess nobody knows the law here (I depend here on Russina law). U can't say it's my opinion here so respect it because according the law your opinion can be published only on your OWN social page (Facebook, Instagram, twitter or your OWN youtube channel). If it's published in a place that isn't owned by you like this forum it became your comment So if your comment(s) consists humilation or insult it became a crime againts honor and diginity.
SO STOP CALLING YOUR COMMENTS YOUR OPINIONS. if you want to write to your social net page and write it there.
Same about A. Gubanova. What she said about Zagitova goes as slander (doesn't have any facts). And her small age as some people here used as defendence doesn't matter because she already was over 14yo at the moment when she was saying this. So there could be a trial against her. The words that Alina doesn't care can't be an exuse.
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You want a trial against Nastya now for
envious an unfounded and insulting comments she made and that people knew about a year-and-a-half ago about Olympic champion Alina Zagitova? That would not be fair Lana.

Nastya was quite simply a jealous 15 year old girl making comments about another 15 year old girl who just won the Olympic gold medal. Anastasias comments as I've stated many times we're insulting and offensive and unfounded about Alina. But when you speak of human nature you can understand it to a certain degree. Nastya in my humble opinion needs counseling from adults on why what she said on that live stream was so bad and so hurtful and so unnecessary. If Gubanovait's not getting such counseling from her parents or grandparents or aunts or uncles or coaches then someone from the Russian Federation needs to sit down with her and explain to Nastya why what she said about Alina what's so wrong and so unnecessary. It may be possible Nastya still does not understand this. That would be sad.

The Federation needs to send directives to all coaches and all sports in Russia that athletes are not allowed to publicly comment on suspicion of one of their compatriots possible drug use. IE: Chemistry. Not even in a joking manner like Shabatova did. Then if and when this happens again in the future the Russian Federation can drop the hammer on whatever athletes speculated about one of their compatriots ped use. but at this point there should be no trial for Anastasia for what she said a year-and-a-half ago. I just hope Nastya has truly learn from this awful experience. But I have my doubts. I hope her dubious comments in the Rodina interview has caught Nastyas attention and she has learned for that. I was taught as a child if you have nothing nice to say about someone don't say anything at all about them. Nastya should have been taught that as well. It's not always easy to follow that rule but as a public figure Anastasia should know better.

Shouldn't Nastyas chemistry comment about Alina have been a big controversy in March of 2018 when it happened? For the media to dig this up now is complete BS.

Alina just keeps rolling with the punches and handles the ups and downs with grace and class. She's a real champion on and off the ice. Needless to say Nastya can learn a lot from her as can many others.
 
Lmao, so we are going to start persecuting teens for talking smack about one another? Courts have better things to do.
 
neud said:
If you're wondering, ask, don't "think".
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Thanks. If I want to ask a question, I will.

Georgya said:
1. NOT ONLY USA. Anywhere you can express your opinion online even if you don't know what you are talking about. The problem appears when a certain public needs to eat up that opinion. I filter and dismiss a lot of what I read, see online because i don't like or trust the source, TSL in this case. This is what I meant by "authentic"

2. Even for people that are not an “authority” there is a profesionnal/ constructive way to direct a criticism towards a person or a group. Ironically, I find more troubling now knowing those guys (tsl) professions and the fact that they talk like that.

TSL are not better than a high school girl calling me at recess mcdonalds because I use glasses and have a 5 euro shirt. Not to mention that at 13 yo you are way to young to form a style of your own.
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Thanks for explaining what you meant by using the word “authentic.” I agree that it’s a good idea to filter out opinions you think are wrong, not useful, or offensive. I do this myself. But I think everyone should try to keep criticism constructive. In my opinion, how someone expresses themself matters just as much here on GS as it does anywhere else; just because you disagree with someone or dislike a particular skater doesn’t mean it’s okay to be rude or engage in name calling.

Lana05 said:
I guess nobody knows the law here (I depend here on Russina law). U can't say it's my opinion here so respect it because according the law your opinion can be published only on your OWN social page (Facebook, Instagram, twitter or your OWN youtube channel). If it's published in a place that isn't owned by you like this forum it became your comment So if your comment(s) consists humilation or insult it became a crime againts honor and diginity.
SO STOP CALLING YOUR COMMENTS YOUR OPINIONS. if you want to write to your social net page and write it there.
Same about A. Gubanova. What she said about Zagitova goes as slander (doesn't have any facts). And her small age as some people here used as defendence doesn't matter because she already was over 14yo at the moment when she was saying this. So there could be a trial against her. The words that Alina doesn't care can't be an exuse.
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Thanks for the information on Russian law. I can’t speak to what laws apply to Russian citizens posting on US-based message boards. But I practice law in the United States, and I have a particular interest in speech issues. There is no law here that says use of the word “opinion” must be confined to a person’s social media. Just because the subject of the thread is “Russian ladies” doesn’t mean that Russian law generally controls what can be said here, or how it can be said.
 
Tavi... said:
Thanks for the information on Russian law. I can’t speak to what laws apply to Russian citizens posting on US-based message boards. But I practice law in the United States, and I have a particular interest in speech issues. There is no law here that says use of the word “opinion” must be confined to a person’s social media. Just because the subject of the thread is “Russian ladies” doesn’t mean that Russian law generally controls what can be said here, or how it can be said.
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I doubt if there is such a law anywhere at all, Russia including. This is more like how something that you can say may be used in courts from jurisprudence point of view.
 
Bluediamonds09 said:
So, no one knows the short program of Trusova, the long program of Scherbakova, or the long program of Tuktamysheva?
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It's still not known. There was a rumour that Sasha and Anna are to keep their programs, but some fanpage that has inside information (?) stated that Anna is getting a new free for sure. Lots of programs are still a mystery at this point.

EDIT: Sasha mentioned working on new programs in her interview, maybe she is getting a new short as well. Too bad the music hasn't been revealed, it's been quite boring lately.
 
Edwin said:
Petrosyan has an example to work towards to, since she is about 40-50 points behind Sof'ya.
Her patronym is Tigranovna, so will her moniker be 'Тигра' = Tiger?
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BTW, there are two chess grandmasters whose name is Tigran Petrosyan, one of them was a world champion.
 
nussnacker said:
I love how Sasha wraps her long braids around her neck as some sort of necklace :laugh:
she's so adorable :biggrin:
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She is! They all are! :luv17:

When her braids came loose mid spinning I saw her trying to protect her face from getting smacked by her braids. Those things are weapons!

Also Alina inching back to protect herself from Anna's flying hair! :laugh:

I love all these girls so much and I can't get enough of seeing them have fun together.
 
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