2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[eterialskater]

http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
Only two! For е-lutz for CRAINE and е-F for CHOI. From 12 participants. And 4! for Anna! It is so funny and cynical. Shame ISU.

Just pathetic and pure maliciousness from the tech control team.

 

[Mishaminion]

http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
Only two! per е-lutz for CRAINE and е-F for CHOI. From 12 participants. And 4! for Anna! It is so funny and cynical. Shame ISU.

She got 4 ! Calls because she had 4 flat edges

And she was called on them because the judges were pretty strict. They blasted quite a few skaters on their URs

My god this anti Russian conspiracy nonsense is annoying, especially when most of them are absolutely murdering the competition

Just stop

 

[Fool]

The judging got stricter. Her edges were flat here, more so than SA where a stricter panel might have called them.

:rofl2:

Could you please show me where her edge was flatter this time around? I know it's apparently all 5 of her lutzes, but I would appreciate a comparison from SkAm, even just one jump for me to compare. Thanks.

 

[Mishaminion]

Just pathetic and pure maliciousness from the tech control team.

I dont see how it is malicious to call flat edges that are flat

She still won by a country mile, quit complaining

 

[zounger]

Mishmanion you can copy-paste your comments from last week you can save us some 30pages...

 

[eterialskater]

I rarely watch Trusova but does she have clear Lutz edges?

If she doesn't then she will be called the same way, according to the new mantra. That should even them out should it not?

If she has perfect edges then she won't be called which would be fair too wouldn't it?

She has a clear outside edge but I wouldn't be surprise if she suddenly gets ! or even e's. I honestly thought last week was an aberration with Zagitova's lutzes. They are hellbent on stopping them and the ISU will employ every underhanded tactic in the book.

 

[Jontor]

How much does the ! calls on Anna's Lutzes cost her in GOE?

 

[Mishaminion]

:rofl2:

Could you please show me where her edge was flatter this time around? I know it's apparently all 5 of her lutzes, but I would appreciate a comparison from SkAm, even just one jump for me to compare. Thanks.

I'm not going to waste time trying to put together some sort of visual aid for you to just dismiss

Go watch videos yourself why should I do your homework for you?

These edge calls are not out of the blue they're because of stricter panels

Satoko got hosed on URs as did a few others

We have seen stricter judging recently in general

It really is not just the Russians

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Mishmanion you can copy-paste your comments from last week you can save us some 30pages...

Oh that's good because everyone else is copying theirs only inserting anna over alina

 

[Fool]

I'm not going to waste time trying to put together some sort of visual aid for you to just dismiss

Go watch videos yourself why should I do your homework for you?

These edge calls are not out of the blue they're because of stricter panels

Satoko got hosed on URs as did a few others

We have seen stricter judging recently in general

It really is not just the Russians

You're not doing any "homework" for me (and where exactly did I mention "the Russians"??) I asked you for an example of Anna's edge being better at SkAm than here, which you told me it was. That's all.

 

[Mishaminion]

She has a clear outside edge but I wouldn't be surprise if she suddenly gets ! or even e's. I honestly thought last week was an aberration with Zagitova's lutzes. They are hellbent on stopping them and the ISU will employ every underhanded tactic in the book.

So hell bent on stopping them that Anna is in the GPF already with Sasha and Alena poised to make it too and possibly also Alina

Yes that will stop them!!!!

Lololololoolololol

 

[DenissVFan]

I rarely watch Trusova but does she have clear Lutz edges?

If she doesn't then she will be called the same way, according to the new mantra. That should even them out should it not?

If she has perfect edges then she won't be called which would be fair too wouldn't it?

Sasha has consistently had the best lutz edge out of the 4A. She should be fine.

 

[PrayOrDie]

9 out 10 lutzes got called by judges during last 2 Grand Prix events.

Alena - 1
Alina - 3
Anna - 5

 

[zounger]

How much does the ! calls on Anna's Lutzes cost her in GOE?

A simple answer is to do the subtraction from her previous competition. Generally, depends on what your name is.

 

[Vandevska]

"We want strict judging!!!!11!1!"
*strict judging happens, alas not for everyone*
-surprised pikachu-

 

[BabySloth]

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I think Anna’s calls were fair. You really shouldn’t get away with jumping four Lutz jumps in your program when your edge is flat. I love the Tutberidze girls, and they are still above everyone, but fair is fair.

And to be honest, just because they didn’t get calls before, it doesn’t mean that these flaws did not exist before.

I also follow skating discussions on another site, Instagram and Twitter, and the general sentiment is that the calls were fair. We can just dismiss them as „Russophobes” and continue to live in our „Golden Skate bubble”. Or actually think about and try to be more objective when it comes to our favorites.

And not getting WR and 160+ every time they step on the ice can actually help the girls improve.

Anyway, Congratulations to Anna, she beat the field by a mile! The huge Teddy Bear in the K&C was so funny and adorable. And also Congrats to Liza for the bronze, her triple Axels were one of the higlights of the competition.

 

[Mishaminion]

This made up and ridiculous outcry everytime a Russian doesn't quite score through the roof is getting old and boring

It is ruining my enjoyment of being a part of this forum

It is just absolutely flooded with it

I am done

 

[Vandevska]

This made up and ridiculous outcry everytime a Russian doesn't quite score through the roof is getting old and boring

It is ruining my enjoyment of being a part of this forum

It is just absolutely flooded with it

I am done

Ah but you've got it wrong. It's mostly complaining about an Eteri skater being underscored. People rarely care about the rest.

 

[starla16]

Tuk has only herself to blame, falling on the on 3A and doubling on the toe jump in her 3-3 in the SP sealed her fate.

 

[Vandevska]

Tuk has only herself to blame, falling on the on 3A and doubling on the toe jump in her 3-3 in the SP sealed her fate.

She didn't double it, it was planned.

 

[zounger]

Ah but you've got it wrong. It's mostly complaining about an Eteri skater being underscored. People rarely care about the rest.

Liza's 3A axel is the size of Satoko I didn't saw it reflected on the scores.