2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Hast thou compared Samarin & Aliev's PCS over the past couple year's at Russian Nationals?
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Three? There are four Anastasias Scott...Gracheva is also in.
Thank you DVF.
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Voronov looks great!
I am somehow under the impression that she did an euler combo at a couple of meets. Couldn't name one though. :S
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More photos here: https://sport24.ru/photo/other/2019...ale-foto#f8fb03bd-066b-457d-a834-6a7c824b403c
Aliyev smashing his Christmas tree bauble and having the crowd in stitches, Mishin face palming, Alyona, Anna, Yevgeniya and Sof'ya looking nice and pretty in their elegant dresses, Tina witnessing it all, but no naughty Anastasiya Tarakanova to film the ceremony ....
Given the all time high tide Russian (female) figure skating is riding on, prime clothing brands have missed an opportunity to sponsor some athletes.
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I don't really follow men, especially the russian ones, so no and I'm not planning to
however, we saw what Trusova received at GPF in pcs compared to Shcherba and Kosto
She did an Euler with only a 2S at Finlandia.
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Sergey, picture number 7.
TAT and Tina: https://www.instagram.com/p/B6f3ypgIfjH
SE prognosis: https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...nat-rossii-kto-pobedit-kakoy-prognoz-1626017/
Wonder if there are bookmakers taking bets on the outcome and what the odds are ....
Edwin, here are bookmakers' odds:
https://sport24.ru/news/other/2019-...iyu-2020-prognozy-i-koeffitsiyenty-bukmekerov
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Well, Sasha "wants to be the First" so she will be starting the competition:
1. Alexandra Trusova
2. Serafima Sakhanovich
3. Anna Shcherbakova
4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
5. Anastasia Gulyakova
6. Alena Kostornaya
7. Valeria Shulskaya
8. Maria Talalaykina
9. Sofia Samodurova
10. Anastasia Gubanova
11. Elizaveta Nugumanova
12. Anastasia Gracheva
13. Ksenia Sinitsyna
14. Ksenia Tsibinova
15. Anna Frolova
16. Stanislava Konstantinova
17. Evgenia Medvedeva
She hates being the last skater to enter the ice to compete.
Good luck Mother of Quads with your Triksel and 4S.
1. Alexandra Trusova
2. Serafima Sakhanovich
3. Anna Shcherbakova
4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
5. Anastasia Gulyakova
6. Alena Kostornaya
7. Valeria Shulskaya
8. Maria Talalaykina
9. Sofia Samodurova
10. Anastasia Gubanova
11. Elizaveta Nugumanova
12. Anastasia Gracheva
13. Ksenia Sinitsyna
14. Ksenia Tsibinova
15. Anna Frolova
16. Stanislava Konstantinova
17. Evgenia Medvedeva
She hates being the last skater to enter the ice to compete.
Good luck Mother of Quads with your Triksel and 4S.
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Liza's layout is so disappointing. Is there even a point to Liza learning the 4T if she's going to replace a 3A with it? She will lose a lot of the BV she gains to replacing a 3A with a 2A. How much higher is her BV with the quad than if she were to do two 3As? She's not even repeating the quad so maybe that time would've been better spent working on her axels and triples. If she's trying to make the world team, now would be the time to risk it all. With that planned layout she doesn't have much of a chance beating the 3A if they skated like they did at GPF. But if she were to maximize her layout, she'd have a fighting chance. She could have a much higher BV doing two 3As and 4Ts even if she excludes her weaker triples. It could be higher than Alena's (and close to Anna's if you combine SP and FS?).
A 4T is 9.5 points, and the difference between a 3A and 2A is 4.7 points. So really all that work for a quad is only giving her +4.8 BV with her current layout. Where as if she had two 4Ts replacing two 2As she could have +12.4 BV. There's not much of an advantage to playing it safe here. Where as if she risks it all and it goes well, she could get a spot on the world team. This really makes me appreciate Sasha for the maximum based on her jump arsenal. Liza's jump arsenal is only second to Sasha (and maybe Anna?) but her layout doesn't reflect this at all.
A 4T is 9.5 points, and the difference between a 3A and 2A is 4.7 points. So really all that work for a quad is only giving her +4.8 BV with her current layout. Where as if she had two 4Ts replacing two 2As she could have +12.4 BV. There's not much of an advantage to playing it safe here. Where as if she risks it all and it goes well, she could get a spot on the world team. This really makes me appreciate Sasha for the maximum based on her jump arsenal. Liza's jump arsenal is only second to Sasha (and maybe Anna?) but her layout doesn't reflect this at all.
I don't really follow men, especially the russian ones, so no and I'm not planning to
We did; however, A. Trusova made more mistakes at the GPF than she normally does, and that can negatively impact PCS. (I would argue that it did so even with Hanyu there). And B. One of the patterns I have seen over many years at Russian Nationals is that TES often has a stronger impact upon PCS there than at other events. Samarin's PCS marks at Nationals over the past 2-3 years being a clear example. I do think Kostornaia has a very smooth glide over the ice that will likely bring in a higher skating skills mark than that of her age-level compatriots. I simply do not think I would count on a similar PCS gap to that from the GPF due to A&B above.
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I guess they may want to play it safe since she hasn't competed with the quad yet, so to decrease the risk of error they took one 3A out. But if not now, when? It seems like they just want to show on principle that she has the quad and that she would be able to compete with three 3As and at least one 4T across her two programs by Worlds, but you have to do it beforehand to give people confidence.
Why doesn't Liza do 3Lz3T anymore? And better yet, why doesn't she do 3F3T in the FS? The 3Lz-2A sequence is frustrating to look at every time. I'm guessing the salchow is a weak jump for her?
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Because she has "proper" jump technique. When using such technique - it's especially hard to make +3T combos with it - without URs and/or falls. It's related to both first (lutz/flip) and second (toeloop) jump in a combo. All other ladies with such technique (Tsurkskaya, Sotskova, Kawabata, Chen, Kim, Paganini etc.) were having troubles with such combos for a reason - and preferred doing 3Lz+2T or 2A+3T combos instead.
