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Also, Rosconcert, the state entity that is another purported "victim" here, debunked this "scandal" long time ago in an official statement.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Also, Rosconcert, the state entity that is another purported "victim" here, debunked this "scandal" long time ago in an official statement.
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Important point, it isn't Russians who have problem with Medvedeva going places in Japan, many (I don't have a data,but most likely most) Russians still don't care about the virus and don't obey any rules. For example there was a big party of bikers(or street racing) the day before yesterday in SpB with many people.
Japanese people are obviously much more disciplined and many actions which may be fine(holding parties in the middle of pandemic isn't fine(to put it mildly) if you ask me but...) in Russia, is less so in Japan.
P.S Medvedeva could have avoided this entire discussion, she just needed to stay at Zhilina's in Severodvinsk
Japanese people are obviously much more disciplined and many actions which may be fine(holding parties in the middle of pandemic isn't fine(to put it mildly) if you ask me but...) in Russia, is less so in Japan.
P.S Medvedeva could have avoided this entire discussion, she just needed to stay at Zhilina's in Severodvinsk
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That is to be assessed differently. At that time, there was also the prevailing opinion in Russia that the situation would be completely under control due to the timely closure of the border with China. In any case, I can remember that when I expressed concern, someone with a malicious smile asked me which country I came from and said that I was obviously just jealous that there were many infections in my country, while in Russia it was so next to none.
We are talking about April the 1st (travel) and June the 5th (show). If "it was already obvious to everyone, and people here too", why Mr Putin cancelled the Victory Parade to be held on May the 9th only on April the 16th? On April the 1st there were 2,500 infected in Russia (what changed dramatically from April the 15th on) and barely 1,865 infected in Japan. So no, nothing was obvious then (nor is obvious now, but mabe you know just now what will be the number of infected people in Russia in two week time...).
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Should I guess? 400,000 - 500,000, probably even more. I hope I'm wrong.
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Can the mods please move this Zhenya/Covid/Japan discussion to a separate thread?
Some of us are not interested in reading the same back and forth rehashed over 3 pages with no progress being made.
Some of us are not interested in reading the same back and forth rehashed over 3 pages with no progress being made.
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The Tokyo Olympics had been postponed a week before she left. Stars on Ice Japan had cancelled their Hachinohe and Yokohama shows around the same time (and had cancelled the Osaka and Aichi shows in early March). The Japanese entry ban (which started on 4/1 and, according to Zhenya, was the reason she flew to Japan early) included Canada and the US. A large part of the cast for Prism on Ice (off the top of my head: Jason, Alissa, Andrew, Dylan, Mirai, Becky) all stayed in those countries & don't have Japanese citizenship or permanent residency - meaning that if the entry ban was still in effect in June, most of the cast wouldn't have been able to perform anyway. Contractual obligations are one thing but outside of that, I think most people would've been shocked if the show *wasn't* cancelled.
(*I spent the last few months planning a couple of summer trips to Japan for Tokyo2020 & to attend some ice shows so I've done a lot of research)
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In regards to the national team, the six ladies makes complete sense. I'm guessing that Sinitsyna and Guliakova will be on reserve. I think it's uncommon to have one of the alternates be someone who didn't attend the JGP or GP last season but she did quite well at nationals and the Russian Cup Final & she was named as an alternate for Euros and Worlds.
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It was obvious that the victory parade will be cancelled and will not be happening (to everyone who can put two and two together), because all mass gatherings were banned back in March, so the announcement that came on April 16 was just a formality.
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Yes I agree, I would love to see what she still has left to show! Even if she may never be the top skater in Russia or in the world again, I would love to have her back even if she has won everything there is. But what she wants to do is up to her I guess, and we can't read minds and there's only so much you can get from public appearances and interviews. So only time will tell.
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And hundreds of conscripts rehearsing the parade got contaminated.
Independent news sources don't give a very positive overview of how 'Russia' is dealing with the pandemic, meaning it will take long to bring it under control to 'our norms'. But probably Russian government has its own norms and will declare 'safely under control' when it sees fit. Government 'display of resolution' vs the local governor's 'display of power' vs Putin's 'image' vs economic loss for the common working population vs health of the high risk groups aren't easily balanced when the unmeasurable has to be taken into account.
The country is huge, so in all reasonability, a training center can be set up in a less affected area without a large population and infection figures. Apparently, it has to be state owned premises, which limits the choice somewhat. Ministry of Sports, FFKKR and MosKomSport will probably still have Novogorsk on the forefront of their minds, for all the practical and economical reasons.
We'll see when ISU declares season is on and other federations where the pandemic is under control have already been on the ice for several weeks.
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Who has demonstrated arrogance and hypocrisy?
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Posting videos exhorting everyone to stay and train at home and then travelling around and training outside yourself is the definition of hypocrisy. Travelling when the governors of various prefectures beg everyone not to do so (especially from the so called 'unsafe areas' to other prefectures) and replying "oh, you're getting on my nerves" when people point that out is the definition of arrogance.
Pretty woman, look my way... :luv17:
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LOL, el henry and several other board 'old timers' seem to feign a lot of innocent ignorance of late ;-)
We all longe for positive news, new team compositions, new program announcements, new elements being premiered, competition schedules, while the current and still lasting situation is getting on our nerves.
We are just fans, all the athletes are longing for ice ever more every day they have to sit idle.
I appreciate every live stream with them exercising, training, chatting, having fun with their friends, showing they are still alive, full of spirit and sometimes mischievous.
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Alina has never stopped to be a top skater in the first place.
If anyone is interested why Evgenia went to Japan - Brian Orser is talking about it a little in his Olimpic Channel interview: https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/s...clusive-quadruple-axel-physical-hanyu-yuzuru/
He said Evgenia is in Japan with hopes for some shows that are coming up in July and August. I don't know what he means by that. It is not included in the typed text, but in the video it is around 7th minute mark.
He said Evgenia is in Japan with hopes for some shows that are coming up in July and August. I don't know what he means by that. It is not included in the typed text, but in the video it is around 7th minute mark.
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Strange, one would assume an athlete of Medvyedeva's stature and reputation doesn't have to peddle herself to show organisers, they come to her. And contracts can be arranged by agents and intermediaries like Zakaryan, can they? Unless it is out of economic necessity, to earn that much needed money to be able to continue to live in Toronto and train at TCC with the chance of being demoted in the FFKKR ranks looming?
July/August, was that a pre-pandemic show schedule? Then there would have been advertisements in trade magazines and direct verbal soliciting in 'insider circles' for cast members well in advance, so close to season start and the all important senior Open Test Skates in Russia. Unless these have lost their imminent importance for Medvyedeva?
BOrser only explains the urgent need to enter Japan before borders closed, not much else. Is he even worried about her? Or her progress' in acquiring ultra-si still to be achieved, newly re-configured skating skills to be solidified? As her assigned trainer he should have a vested interest in this development of his star student from Russia and not let the previous work of two years go to waste.
Another piece of the puzzle ...
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That’s kind of strange. If she went to Japan in March to wait around there for shows in July/ August that wouldn’t give her much time to learn her new programs (or especially new elements like the quad sal) before test skates in early September. That would mean she’s away from her home training base for most of the off-season.
