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2020-2021 Programs by Discipline

elektra blue said:
after Kevin Aymoz made it popular we can expect at least one every year
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Actually, the first one to ever perform it was Jeremy Abbott, he tends to be a trend setter: in this shirt, land of all, and several others......

exogenesis III from Muse was first skated by the Kerrs, but wasn't widely popular until after he first skated it in 2012 and then again in 2014.
 
Ic3Rabbit said:
Actually, the first one to ever perform it was Jeremy Abbott, he tends to be a trend setter: in this shirt, land of all, exogenesis III from Muse and several others......
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I think Jeff Buttle actually did an exhibition programme to In This Shirt before Jeremy, in 2012/13. However, unlike Jeremy, Jeff was already a pro skater by that time - perhaps Jeremy contributed more to popularise it amongst competitive skaters? The explosion of people In These Shirts definitely only happened after him.
 
Flying Feijoa said:
I think Jeff Buttle actually did an exhibition programme to In This Shirt before Jeremy, in 2012/13. However, unlike Jeremy, Jeff was already a pro skater by that time - perhaps Jeremy contributed more to popularise it amongst competitive skaters? The explosion of people In These Shirts definitely only happened after him.
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Jeff skated it for one throwaway MWO event. And then quickly switched to Piano Concerto in F Sharp Minor, Op. 20 by Alexander Scriabin for that season, which was more memorable. No one touched the piece until Jeremy skated it in 2017 and then it started flourishing in amateur programs: Aymoz, Hawayek/Baker, now Pulkinen and I know there were others.
 
Keiji Tanaka FS - Sherlock (soundtrack) from 19/20 season
https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1282646307493105664

Koshiro Shimada FS - Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini
https://twitter.com/arisuonice/status/1268949297392840711

Sota Yamamoto
SP - Dark Eyes choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto
FS - Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto
https://twitter.com/arisuonice/status/1268921795496669184

Yuna Aoki
SP - Live For The One I Love
FS - Beethoven's 5 Secrets
https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1248954163335237633

Marin Honda FS - La La Land (from 19/20/ season)
https://twitter.com/InTheLoPodcast/status/1273796084331151361

Moa Iwano
SP - I Put A Spell On You/Sinnerman choreo. by Benoit Richaud
FS - Papa, Can You Hear Me choreo. by Benoit Richaud (both from 19/20 season)
https://actnow.jp/project/moaiwano/report
 
Wakaba Higuchi
SP: Bird Set Free - 2019/2020 SP
FS: Poeta - 2019/2020 FS
https://twitter.com/megdale1021/status/1285450811544268800

Kaori Sakamoto
SP: Unspecified French-titled Song/Music (Kaori forgot the title :laugh:), choreo by Benoit Richaud
FS: Matrix - 2019/2020 FS
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/b29126f1fe1ce620329f0ae8014005536beb91a8

Edited to add: The reporters on site did a song search for Kaori's SP music and it seems to be Bach Prelude and Fugue No. 2.
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285572547174494215

Kazuki Tomono
SP: The Hardest Button to Button from Chroma - 2019/2020 SP
FS: Moulin Rouge - 2019/2020 FS
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9238e5fef6bc267968562966a361cc7234db5bd7
 
Ic3Rabbit said:
Jeff skated it for one throwaway MWO event. And then quickly switched to Piano Concerto in F Sharp Minor, Op. 20 by Alexander Scriabin for that season, which was more memorable. No one touched the piece until Jeremy skated it in 2017 and then it started flourishing in amateur programs: Aymoz, Hawayek/Baker, now Pulkinen and I know there were others.
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It is pretty diffcult to find and show cause and effect in these circles, but I wonder about this interpretation a bit. Popular music can be accessed everywhere in the world these days even though I would think linguistic and even geographical preferences kind of apply.

Also, Jeremy had been skating pro for years when he used In This Shirt, had he not? Both of them used the song in Stars on Ice which is a biggish show and even gets televised, but just how much the shows inform choices of music in competetive circles, I don't know. I doubt that their influence would be huge, although YT does provide some access to these shows (both performances can be found there). Music used in show contexts does not necessarily get viewed as suitable for competitive programs - I remember reading that Nathan Chen felt Nemesis was felt more like a show song, but still decided to give it a go.

Moreover, I don't think either of these older guys particularly progressive in their choices of popular music (more so in modern or classical music), particularly in their pro careers - pretty standard middle of the road stuff when you look at the list. But in both cases of In This Shirt, there is the factor of choreographer. Jeffrey's version was choreographed by Linda Garneau, a dancer and choreographer from outside the FS world. In Jeremy's case there is a Team France connection, Benoit Richaud. It is not possible to show who came up with the song, but here I would almost go for outside influence.

Unlike Jeffrey and Jeremy, Kevin has a pretty strong track record for choosing somewhat alternative pop music for his programs - Imagine Dragons, Benjamin Clementine, Woodkid all before In This Shirt. He could very well have listened to The Irrepressibles long before choosing to skate it.

This would not be the first time Team France would have come up with sth different - Benjamin Clementine (with a strong French connection) was used by Florent Amodio and then Kevin after which Shae-Lynn picked it up for Nathan Chen. Woodkid (who is French btw) appears in a free dance by the then virtually unknown Papadakis/Cizeron in 2013-4 and was picked up Simon Hocquaux, a French skater for his last junior SP in 2014-5. And then a bit later by Kevin and then Nathan Chen. Once an unusual piece of music has a proven good track record in competition, it tends to get repeated.

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it looks like mai mihara is keeping her “it’s magic” short program!


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eppen said:
It is pretty diffcult to find and show cause and effect in these circles, but I wonder about this interpretation a bit. Popular music can be accessed everywhere in the world these days even though I would think linguistic and even geographical preferences kind of apply.

Also, Jeremy had been skating pro for years when he used In This Shirt, had he not? Both of them used the song in Stars on Ice which is a biggish show and even gets televised, but just how much the shows inform choices of music in competetive circles, I don't know. I doubt that their influence would be huge, although YT does provide some access to these shows (both performances can be found there). Music used in show contexts does not necessarily get viewed as suitable for competitive programs - I remember reading that Nathan Chen felt Nemesis was felt more like a show song, but still decided to give it a go.

Moreover, I don't think either of these older guys particularly progressive in their choices of popular music (more so in modern or classical music), particularly in their pro careers - pretty standard middle of the road stuff when you look at the list. But in both cases of In This Shirt, there is the factor of choreographer. Jeffrey's version was choreographed by Linda Garneau, a dancer and choreographer from outside the FS world. In Jeremy's case there is a Team France connection, Benoit Richaud. It is not possible to show who came up with the song, but here I would almost go for outside influence.

Unlike Jeffrey and Jeremy, Kevin has a pretty strong track record for choosing somewhat alternative pop music for his programs - Imagine Dragons, Benjamin Clementine, Woodkid all before In This Shirt. He could very well have listened to The Irrepressibles long before choosing to skate it.

This would not be the first time Team France would have come up with sth different - Benjamin Clementine (with a strong French connection) was used by Florent Amodio and then Kevin after which Shae-Lynn picked it up for Nathan Chen. Woodkid (who is French btw) appears in a free dance by the then virtually unknown Papadakis/Cizeron in 2013-4 and was picked up Simon Hocquaux, a French skater for his last junior SP in 2014-5. And then a bit later by Kevin and then Nathan Chen. Once an unusual piece of music has a proven good track record in competition, it tends to get repeated.

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Uhm yeah ok...you totally missed my point. Jeff used it for one pro competition. And also, Jeremy has been using and has always used different out of the box and also alt pop esp for exhibitions during amateur (several including Muse which was his idea and he choreographed himself) and pro career, so wrong on that point too. But just agree to disagree with me and we'll move on.
 
Ic3Rabbit said:
Uhm yeah ok...you totally missed my point. And also, Jeremy has been using and has always used different out of the box and also alt pop esp for exhibitions during amateur and pro career, so wrong on that point too. But just agree to disagree with me and we'll move on.
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I guess that depends how you define out of the box and unsual ;-) In my books most of Jeremy's stuff is pretty normal hit pop, middle of the road popular music.

I also just realized that one of the very few music discoveries I have ever gotten from FS is probably because of Benoit Richaud. He was responsible for Myslivečková-Csolley's 2016-7 free dance which involved pieces by Ibrahim Maalouf, a not at all well-known French jazz musician. Loved the music and have since become at least a minor Maalouf fan. I also remember wondering how on earth did those guys ever know about somebody like that. But I could imagine it was Benoit after all...

On the actual thread topic, a bit sad about Billie Eilish for Alena, but hope it does not involve too much of vocals in the end. Keeping the old programs seems like a good idea in general, esp now that the fall season for trying out and honing new programs seems to be under threat of not being there at all.

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Yuma Kagiyama
SP: Take Five, choreo by Misao Sato
FS: Music from "Princess Mononoke", choreo by Misao Sato
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285472310774751232
https://twitter.com/figureskatingm1/status/1285473829951664128

Shun Sato
SP: Pirates of the Carribean, choreo by Benoit Richaud
FS: Music from "Battle of Kings", choreo by Benoit Richaud
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285475492766683136
https://twitter.com/figureskatingm1/status/1285476554730958848
https://twitter.com/figureskatingm1/status/1285481454504312845

Tomoe Kawabata
SP: The Blue Danube - 2019/2020 SP or Waltz in the Evening Glow by Takashi Kako
FS: Yumeji's Theme and Sikuriadas - 2019/2020 FS
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/beccb6f09e8d6a0f6b8e595c0103ddedc9b7dcee

Mai Mihara
SP: It's Magic - 2018/2019 SP
FS: Fairy of Forest, Galaxy - 2019/2020 FS by Lori Nichol, has never been performed yet
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285486062328922112
https://twitter.com/AxelQuadruple/status/1285485106237329409

Rin Nitaya
SP: The Red Violin - 2019/2020 SP
FS: Black Swan, choreo by Machiko Yamada and Mihoko Higuchi
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285492788105113600

Rino Matsuike
SP: The Color Purple - 2019/2020 SP
FS: Music from "Perhaps Love", choreo by Machiko Yamada and Mihoko Higuchi
https://twitter.com/AxelQuadruple/status/1285491749050126336

Mitsuki Sumoto
SP: The Feeling Begins - 2019/2020 SP
FS: The Mission, choreo by Nanami Abe
https://twitter.com/fskating_Life/status/1285501189983924225
 
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