2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[plushyfan]

В Японии трансфер Трусовой к Плющенко списали на рок судьбы

Японское издание Real Sports посчитало переход фигуристки Александры Трусовой к Евгению Плющенко «неизбежным», ибо вся карьера «Императора», так Плющенко называют в Японии, связана с четверными...

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In Japan, Trusova's transfer to Plushenko was blamed on the rock of fate

The Japanese edition of Real Sports considered the transition of skater Alexandra Trusova to Evgeni Plushenko "inevitable", because the whole career of "The Emperor", as Plushenko is called in Japan, is associated with quadruple jumps.
“The balance of power in the world of figure skating will soon change dramatically. Elite Russian figure skaters, including the queen of the Grand Prix finals of last season, Alena Kostornaya , one after another join the "Emperor" Evgeni Plushenko. The transfer began with Alexandra Trusova, who surprised the world with four types of quadruple jumps at the age of 15. Their inevitable meeting with Plushenko, perhaps, was determined by the faith of a man whose whole life in figure skating is devoted to quadruple jumps, ”the article says.
Under the leadership of the new coach, Alexandra Trusova, in the opinion of many foreign experts, managed to show the most integral skating at the past test skates of the Russian national team .

 

[plushyfan]

Sofia Titova? Well, she was a high-end skater for her age, and still is one. Out of the 2009s I think that the best skater's Liubov Rubtsova regardless of the results at nationals. She's essentially an upgraded Trusova.

High-end skater? Sofia Titova was 23rd two years ago. Last year became the Russian Novice champion.

 

[Fried]

It's much too soon to tell. The turnaround has to take place on the highest level of all. Seniors.

More precisely, "Seniors younger than 17 years".

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

Under the leadership of the new coach, Alexandra Trusova, in the opinion of many foreign experts, managed to show the most integral skating at the past test skates of the Russian national team .

I can't wait for stage two of Russian cup, I'm just so excited to see Sasha's new programs in competition (unfortunately there's no banana cantilever smiley, but since Sasha also does a Russian split, this one will have to do). Of course I'm also looking forward to all the other Russian ladies

 

[Shayuki]

High-end skater? Sofia Titova was 23rd two years ago. Last year became the Russian Novice champion.

Were you even aware of Sofia Titova's existence in early 2018 or did you only begin following her after she moved to Plushenko's academy? Because I know what she skated like in 2018, I even recorded two performances of hers in 2018 March.

23rd? In what, exactly? If you mean the same competitions, then that's pretty obvious because she was 2 years younger. The same holds true for, let's see, every skater? In the competitions I watched, she won by a massive margin. Some of the highest scores I've seen for the category.

At these ages the skaters are learning triple jumps. It's not very important whether a skater gets them at early 9 or late 9 or even early 10 in the long run. If that's what you were referring to with Titova. But she was a very talented skater even when she was only jumping doubles and single axels.

 

[karina17]

More precisely, "Seniors younger than 17 years".

Shulskaya, you're up!

 

[Shayuki]

Of course I realized that after I posted my post and left the house. That is one of the great turnarounds ever as well with EG and Alina. Remember she was going to bounce Alina out of TT and changed her mind at the last second. The rest is history.

But the Aliona turn around in a few months from 17th at Junior Nationals to third at senior Nationals is off the charts!

Yeah, Zagitova was 9th or something in her Russian nationals before the breakthrough season, though her score was actually lower than Kostornaya's was - the level of competition was very different at the time. Still, the next season Zagitova went on to win some 4 major international competitions, Russian junior championship and got the silver medal in Russian seniors as well.

I guess it's not a competition but I think it's fair to say these two skaters' turnarounds over the course of a season were at least close to equal.

 

[Scott512]

Yeah, Zagitova was 9th or something in her Russian nationals before the breakthrough season, though her score was actually lower than Kostornaya's was - the level of competition was very different at the time. Still, the next season Zagitova went on to win some 4 major international competitions, Russian junior championship and got the silver medal in Russian seniors as well.

I guess it's not a competition but I think it's fair to say these two skaters' turnarounds over the course of a season were at least close to equal.

Certainly not a competition. Both are phenomenal instantances of great coaching and great Aetna's combining for...greatness!

 

[Scott512]

More precisely, "Seniors younger than 17 years".

I don't count novices improvements. But good for Sofia.

Can you imagine if Evgenia gets to a high level again? I hope it happens I can't wait.

 

[plushyfan]

Were you even aware of Sofia Titova's existence in early 2018 or did you only begin following her after she moved to Plushenko's academy? Because I know what she skated like in 2018, I even recorded two performances of hers in 2018 March.

23rd? In what, exactly? If you mean the same competitions, then that's pretty obvious because she was 2 years younger. The same holds true for, let's see, every skater? In the competitions I watched, she won by a massive margin. Some of the highest scores I've seen for the category.

At these ages the skaters are learning triple jumps. It's not very important whether a skater gets them at early 9 or late 9 or even early 10 in the long run. If that's what you were referring to with Titova. But she was a very talented skater even when she was only jumping doubles and single axels.

No doubt she was very talented. But:
"The girl had serious difficulties with triple jumps and double axel, which the specialists of "Khrustalny" could not overcome. The lack of progress made Sofia's parents look for other options, which led the skater to Plushenko.
At the Moscow Championship in February 2019, Titova became only 23rd, having not performed a single clean triple, although by that time she had already mastered a triple axel on the floor."

 

[eliana]

В Японии трансфер Трусовой к Плющенко списали на рок судьбы

Японское издание Real Sports посчитало переход фигуристки Александры Трусовой к Евгению Плющенко «неизбежным», ибо вся карьера «Императора», так Плющенко называют в Японии, связана с четверными...

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In Japan, Trusova's transfer to Plushenko was blamed on the rock of fate

The Japanese edition of Real Sports considered the transition of skater Alexandra Trusova to Evgeni Plushenko "inevitable", because the whole career of "The Emperor", as Plushenko is called in Japan, is associated with quadruple jumps.
“The balance of power in the world of figure skating will soon change dramatically. Elite Russian figure skaters, including the queen of the Grand Prix finals of last season, Alena Kostornaya , one after another join the "Emperor" Evgeni Plushenko. The transfer began with Alexandra Trusova, who surprised the world with four types of quadruple jumps at the age of 15. Their inevitable meeting with Plushenko, perhaps, was determined by the faith of a man whose whole life in figure skating is devoted to quadruple jumps, ”the article says.
Under the leadership of the new coach, Alexandra Trusova, in the opinion of many foreign experts, managed to show the most integral skating at the past test skates of the Russian national team .

Thank you! This proves that Plushy is much more loved in Japan and abroad than in his own country.

 

[plushyfan]

Thank you! This proves that Plushy is much more loved in Japan and abroad than in his own country.

Eh, he has many fans in Russia, too. When Russia was loud of his withdrawal in Sochi many haters said he lost the Russians's respect. But he was the most popular athlete in 2014 according to the most important public opinion research institute. He beat Lipnitskaya and Sotnikova. He gained new haters since that, and there are many new stars on the horizont but calm down. If he will have new results as a coach he will recover his old fans.

 

[Scott512]

We've heard so much about Sasha and Aliona and their controversial transitions to PA.But what about Stanislava one of the most likeable people in figure skating? How has she adjusted to PA and how is her form so far?

 

[icetug]

.But what about Stanislava one of the most likeable people in figure skating? How has she adjusted to PA and how is her form so far?

She won this mysterious St. Petersburg competition: https://twitter.com/FSIgstories/status/1310012069039804417

https://twitter.com/FSIgstories/status/1309795750730240000

 

[brakes]

Sofia Titova? Well, she was a high-end skater for her age, and still is one. Out of the 2009s I think that the best skater's Liubov Rubtsova regardless of the results at nationals. She's essentially an upgraded Trusova.

I'm really surprised.
Titova is very ambitious girl and a winner, but I can't say she's some supertalent.
Rubtsova is just a good skater, can't see how could you elevate her over Trusova talent-wise. Athleticity is uncomparable for sure.

Btw., there is probably some unknown girl in regions in this age group, who will come to Moscow soon and explode in years to come.

 

[nussnacker]

I'm really surprised.
Titova is very ambitious girl and a winner, but I can't say she's some supertalent.
Rubtsova is just a good skater, can't see how could you elevate her over Trusova talent-wise. Athleticity is uncomparable for sure.

Btw., there is probably some unknown girl in regions in this age group, who will come to Moscow soon and explode in years to come.

I really liked Sadkova. For 12 year old in *current russian ladies field* it’s not much at all, but considering a) she’s a girl from a region b) she didn’t even have a permanent coach, nor was part of any school and mainly trained through additional lessons and summer camps,
I’d say it’s pretty impressive she has jumps which are big and somewhat correct. There’s obviously a lot of work to be done with the axis and other areas, but the sheer fact she has achieved so much with this kind of training is impressive to me.

 

[brakes]

I really liked Sadkova. For 12 year old in *current russian ladies field* it’s not much at all, but considering a) she’s a girl from a region b) she didn’t even have a permanent coach, nor was part of any school and mainly trained through additional lessons and summer camps,
I’d say it’s pretty impressive she has jumps which are big and somewhat correct. There’s obviously a lot of work to be done with the axis and other areas, but the sheer fact she has achieved so much with this kind of training is impressive to me.

She can jump and dance, but there is vast amount of polishing her skating before her. And she will have to play catch up against her peers in Moscow.

 

[Scott512]

She won this mysterious St. Petersburg competition: https://twitter.com/FSIgstories/status/1310012069039804417

https://twitter.com/FSIgstories/status/1309795750730240000

I had no idea. Thanks tug.

I saw something on YouTube today about Stanislava but it was in Russian so I did not understand it.

 

[brakes]

I'm far from being fashion police, but what the heck are those "Ice Age" Alina's costumes?
It's like "let's make a beautiful girl look ugly" dressing competition.

 

[silveruskate]

But the Aliona turn around in a few months from 17th at Junior Nationals to third at senior Nationals is off the charts!

The turn around was quick definitely, but a few months is misleading. Jr RusNats was the beginning of February, and Aliona first competed for Sambo (and performed very well) in September, RusNats was in December. Impressive still, so saying a few months really isn't necessary.

Aliona had the jumps and skating skills, but her packaging was so wrong and no consistency either. Also, it was like they never practiced holding spins before. The most funny part of the story is her step sequences in her programs were all so so so so long. No wonder her skating skills are wonderful! The biggest vote of confidence in my opinion is the fact that Eteri put in the effort to make two absolutely incredible programs for the skater that came 17th at Junior Nationals as soon as she joined.

side note: In this video you can see an almost clean performance with two -3T combos in 2016:

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Also, I saw the Jr RusNats SP, and they really low-balled her. Gave her an underrotated 3F-3T which looked clean, and hardly any GOE across the board.