2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Giltedge]

Championship of Moscow 19th-22nd January

Entries for Younger Girls

1 Anna Abramova 2010
2 Elizaveta Andreeva 2010
3 Ilina Askarova 2013
4 Margarita Bazylyuk 2011
5 Ekaterina Balaganskaya 2010
6 Viktoria Barakhtina 2010
7 Amina Bashirova 2010
8 Ulyana Bobrineva 2010
9 Taisiya Gorbacheva 2010
10 Taisiya Gornyakova 2010
11 Regina Gorokhova 2010
12 Angelina Gracheva 2010
13 Valeria Yezhova 2010
14 Alёna Zhilina 2010
15 Ekaterina Zhitnikova 2010
16 Anna Zatevakhina 2011
17 Daria Zernova 2010
18 Arina Kalugina 2010
19 Ksenia Karpova 2010
20 Daria Konovalova 2010
21 Maya Koryakova 2011
22 Elena Kostyleva 2011
23 Varvara Kravchina.
24 Alёna Krivonosova 2010
25 Margarita Kuzina 2010
26 Sofia Kuzina 2010
27 Lydia Kurbanova 2010
28 Ekaterina Lemekhova 2011
29 Valeria Lukashova 2011
30 Yana Martynenko 2010
31 Yevgenia Mikhotina 2010
32 Kira Monogarova 2011
33 Daria Mukhamedzhanova 2010
34 Elizaveta Myshkina 2010
35 Sofia Pavlycheva 2011
36 Maria Plesskaia 2012
37 Ksenia Polyakova 2011
38 Ksenia Ponomareva 2011
39 Alёna Prineva 2010
40 Victoria Ruseeva 2010
41 Olga Sabada 2010
42 Sofia Sarnovskaya 2012
43 Daria Sarymsakova 2010
44 Sofya Smagina 2011
45 Margarita Syrova C 2011
46 Ekaterina Titova 2010
47 Varvara Tsatsulina 2010
48 Arina Chemeris 2011
49 Anastasia Chinnova 2011
50 Victoria Shirokova 2011
51 Ksenia Yuzhina 2010

Veronika's sister Alёna is strong and may do quite well.

 

[sparklestan]

Championship of Moscow 19th-22nd January

Entries for Elder Girls

1 Maria Agaeva Megasport Krylatskoye 2008
2 Elizaveta Antonova Olympic No4 2008
3 Sofia Balashova Crystal Sambo-70 2008
4 Anna Becker Tchaikovskaia Sambo-70 2008
5 Sofya Vazhnova CSKA Zhuk 2008
6 Ulyana Vasilyeva Snow Leopards 2009
7 Ekaterina Vyrodova Kosino 2009
8 Maria Gordeeva CSKA Zhuk 2009
9 Alisa Dvoeglazova Crystal Sambo-70 2008
10 Polina Dzhumaniyazova Olympic Gory 2009
11 Veronika Zhilina Plushenko 2008
12 Anastasia Kazakova Bryce Sports Club 2009
13 Nika Kasyanov Olympic No4 2008
14 Camilla Kogay Sports School No10 2008
15 Sofia Kolbasenko Crystal Sambo-70 2009
16 Sofia Krokhina Crystal Sambo-70 2009
17 Alina Kulak Olympic No4 2008
18 Elizaveta Kulikova CSKA Zhuk 2008
19 Maria Mazur Crystal Sambo-70 2009
20 Evangeline Matveeva Megasport 2009
21 Zlata Murashova TSPF Kudryavtseva V. N. 2009
22 Maria Paramonova CSKA Zhuk 2008
23 Valeria Pasechnik Olympic Moskvich 2009
24 Olesya Permyakova Crystal Sambo-70 2009
25 Alisa Polyakova Snow Leopards 2009
26 Taisiya Proskuryakova Crystal Sambo-70 2008
27 Maria Rebrova CSKA Zhuk 2008
28 Lyubov Rubtsova Crystal Sambo-70 2009
29 Sofia Rud SK Megasport Krylatskoye 2008
30 Arina Ryabicheva Olympic No4 2009
31 Anna Safronova Olympic No4 2009
32 Marianna Sidorova Olympic Moskvich 2008
33 Maria Simonova CSKA Zhuk 2009
34 Dana Titova Plushenko 2009
35 Sofia Titova Plushenko 2009
36 Ulyana Torbenkova Olympic No4 2009
37 Ekaterina Fetisova Kosino 2009
38 Valeria Khodykina Tchaikovskaia Sambo-70 2009
39 Alisa Shatokhina Tchaikovskaia Sambo-70 2008
40 Daria Shirokova Kosino 2009
41 Sofia Shifrina Snow Leopards 2009

(not finalised, afaiaa)

I believe skater 9 (Alisa) is the young Eteri girl who showed the 4T, I’m interested to see how she does here. She seems quite promising.

 

[Giltedge]

I believe skater 9 (Alisa) is the young Eteri girl who showed the 4T, I’m interested to see how she does here. She seems quite promising.

I wasn't aware, will be interesting to watch out for that.

Rita Bazyliuk, also TT, skated nicely at Grandfather Frost, in December.

 

[Giltedge]

Programme for Ladies at Championship of Moscow 19th-22nd January

Younger Girls Short Programme
Tuesday 19th January 1540-2050 Moscow (= GMT +3)

Younger Girls Elements
Thursday 21st January 1415-1645 Moscow (= GMT +3)

Younger Girls Free Skate Programme
Friday 22nd January 1500-1740 Moscow (= GMT +3)

Elder Girls Short Programme
Wednesday 20th January 1605-2045 Moscow (= GMT +3)

Elder Girls Elements
Thursday 21st January 1900-2130 Moscow (= GMT +3)

Elder Girls Free Skate Programme
Friday 22nd January 1755-2055 Moscow (= GMT +3)

 

[Baron Vladimir]

Step sequences often end with a transition into something like a spin, but you sometimes see the step sequence score posted what seems to be prematurely, in the sense that the score is posted, and then the skater does some interesting step movements, which are "too late" to be counted. This is my perception, at least. What is the rule or convention for judges to identify (the beginning and in particular) the end of the step sequence?

Well, Ina Bauer (in Daria's case for example) is not a part of a step sequence. It is a transitional element, by logic. The point of StSq is to be made of steps, some hops and down on knees movements may be involved there of course, but not something which need that amount of time to be performed as Ina Bauer. So, it can be a part of a choreo sequence, or a transitional element. If Ina Bauer is preceding the required element very closely in time it can be counted both as an entry and in Transition score too. But it will be counted as a Transition for sure (when it is performed well enough). E: And it can depend on the individual perception too, thats why there are multiple judges on the panel which multiple opinions will result in an 'average perception' of it.

 

[DougDorsey]

For Russian Senior Nationals and Russian Junior Nationals (and for Russian senior and junior events, more generally), what are the birthdate cutoffs for the current season (both the lower age limit and upper age limit, in the case of juniors)? How strict is RusFed about these cutoffs, and what are some notable exceptions they've made in recent seasons?

I'm curious on the same thing for elder novices and younger novices, as well.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Where are the snow leopards? I don't speak Russian so idk if I've missed articles or youtube videos or other updates about them.... please be ok Ksenia sinitsina!

 

[Scott512]

Kira Minakova, 9, girl coached by Daria Panenkova, also accepted Anna's challenge

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKHGVI0JayJ/

Actually it was very good and super adorable. But I think we here want to see one of the Sofia's do this or one of the Nastyas or Little Liza or Alina Sasha Aliona or Zhenya. Where are they with the Anya dance challenge?
Why do they seem to be in hiding. )

 

[Giltedge]

Is there really no fan page for Mariia?! I have delved deep and cannot find one.

 

[Vilord]

How far behind a jump (in time) need a moving element like an ina bauer or a spreadeagle be, in order not to be counted as an entrance transition, or discounted as unconnected to the jump that follows? Is this set out precisely in the judging rules or does it depend on each judge's perception? (and I suppose a similar question about the exit transition element). I hope I have asked this question clearly.

I think this is mostly down to perception of the judges. From what Ive heard from local judges here it counts if it is close enough to influence the setup for the jump. For exit transitions it seems to be either do someting on the landing leg (turn, move, choreo jump etc) or with one change of foot.

Step sequences often end with a transition into something like a spin, but you sometimes see the step sequence score posted what seems to be prematurely, in the sense that the score is posted, and then the skater does some interesting step movements, which are "too late" to be counted. This is my perception, at least. What is the rule or convention for judges to identify (the beginning and in particular) the end of the step sequence?

Well for step sequences there is a difference between the technical panel and the GOE judges. The technical pannel counts corectly performed turns and clusters of turns and when a skater has reached the required amount they call the element. The thing skaters usually fail at when they get lv2 or lv3 is their clusters. You may only attempt one cluster on each foot and for lv4 both need to be performed properly (harder than it sounds) so after the 2nd cluster the technical panel usually know what level to give.
The GOE judges on the other hand takes the entire thing into account with all the choreography etc so the would normally wait until the end of the sequence to give their score even if the TS called it halfway through.

 

[siela]

For Russian Senior Nationals and Russian Junior Nationals (and for Russian senior and junior events, more generally), what are the birthdate cutoffs for the current season (both the lower age limit and upper age limit, in the case of juniors)? How strict is RusFed about these cutoffs, and what are some notable exceptions they've made in recent seasons?

I'm curious on the same thing for elder novices and younger novices, as well.

Thanks in advance!

Well, they do not go by half years like ISU does. So, this year, one had to be born in 2006 in order to be able to compete in senior events. Junior lower cut off year is 2009. Upper cut off year seems to be the same as ISU one -al least skaters that aged out of juniors internationally do not compete in juniors at national events either. There are also two novice age groups in Russia - elder age for skater born in 2008-2009 and younger age - for skaters born in 2010 and younger. These are very strict, but they are applicable only to competitions organized under Russian Federation. There are lots of other local competitions organized by local figure skating federations that can have their own age limit requirements.

 

[flanker]

I believe skater 9 (Alisa) is the young Eteri girl who showed the 4T, I’m interested to see how she does here. She seems quite promising.

I wasn't aware, will be interesting to watch out for that.

Rita Bazyliuk, also TT, skated nicely at Grandfather Frost, in December.

Yes, it's her:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIIkzdKonSr/

 

[Vilord]

For Russian Senior Nationals and Russian Junior Nationals (and for Russian senior and junior events, more generally), what are the birthdate cutoffs for the current season (both the lower age limit and upper age limit, in the case of juniors)? How strict is RusFed about these cutoffs, and what are some notable exceptions they've made in recent seasons?

I'm curious on the same thing for elder novices and younger novices, as well.

Thanks in advance!

From what Ive understood ther rules are as follows:
Senior Nats. You need to have turned 14 (born 2006 this season), no upper age limit
Junior nats. You need to have turned 12 (born 2008 this season), upper limit same as ISU i think so 19yo but normally no one over 16-17 competes.
Eleder age novice nats. younger age unclear but I think its 10yo (or is it 12?), upper limit acording to ISU novice so 15yo
Younger age nats. Older category youngest age 10yo oldest age 13 (isu basic novice). Younger category everyone under 10yo

If someone who kows more than me can see if Ive made any mistakes I would be grateful

 

[sinus]

Kostyleva's SP was exquisite.

 

[sinus]

 

[Giltedge]

Kostyleva's SP was exquisite.

Impressive skating and super arm expression

 

[Giltedge]

How far behind a jump (in time) need a moving element like an ina bauer or a spreadeagle be, in order not to be counted as an entrance transition...snip

...step movements, which are "too late" to be counted. ...What is the rule or convention for judges to identify (the beginning and in particular) the end of the step sequence?

Well, Ina Bauer (in Daria's case for example) is not a part of a step sequence. It is a transitional element, by logic. The point of StSq is to be made of steps, some hops and down on knees movements may be involved there of course, but not something which need that amount of time to be performed as Ina Bauer. So, it can be a part of a choreo sequence, or a transitional element. If Ina Bauer is preceding the required element very closely in time it can be counted both as an entry and in Transition score too. But it will be counted as a Transition for sure (when it is performed well enough). E: And it can depend on the individual perception too, thats why there are multiple judges on the panel which multiple opinions will result in an 'average perception' of it.

I think this is mostly down to perception of the judges. From what Ive heard from local judges here it counts if it is close enough to influence the setup for the jump. For exit transitions it seems to be either do someting on the landing leg (turn, move, choreo jump etc) or with one change of foot.


Well for step sequences there is a difference between the technical panel and the GOE judges. The technical pannel counts corectly performed turns and clusters of turns and when a skater has reached the required amount they call the element. The thing skaters usually fail at when they get lv2 or lv3 is their clusters. You may only attempt one cluster on each foot and for lv4 both need to be performed properly (harder than it sounds) so after the 2nd cluster the technical panel usually know what level to give.
The GOE judges on the other hand takes the entire thing into account with all the choreography etc so the would normally waith until the end of the sequence to give their score even if the TS called it halfway through.

Thank you both for clearing up some of my misgivings. Particularly in the case of the timing of the step sequence from the judges' point of view, there'd seemed to be a little too much scope for arbitrary scoring, but I can see now that it is fairly well regulated.

 

[sinus]

Impressive skating and super arm expression

And she is only 9. She will be junior eligible at 2025.

 

[macy]

wow she will absolutely be one to watch in the next few years. what a well rounded skater at such a young age.

 

[DougDorsey]

Thank you, siela and Vilord! Can folks offer corrections on the below...?

• To be eligible for Russian seniors, you have to have turned (or be turning) 14 or older in the calendar year in which the season commences. For this season, that means you have to have been born in 2006 or earlier. There is no upper age limit.

• To be eligible for Russian juniors, you have to have turned (or be turning) [11?/12?] or older in the calendar year in which the season commences. For this season, that means you have to have been born in [2008?/2009?] or earlier. siela and Vilord, you seem to be differing by a year on this one. Can someone clarify? The upper age limit seems to be the same as the ISU's upper age limit for juniors, which is...https://d.pr/i/0k7BAi.

• To be eligible for Russian elder novices, you have to have turned (or be turning) 11 or 12 in the calendar year in which the season commences. For this season, that means you have to have been born in either 2008 or 2009. The upper age limit is the same as the ISU's upper age limit for basic novices, which is...https://d.pr/i/o7LrBU. (This latter part seems to contradict the former part, as it would imply that someone who turns 13 after July 1, and thus was born in the latter half of 2007, would also be eligible this season. Can someone clarify?)

• To be eligible for Russian younger novices, you have to have turned (or be turning) 10 or less in the calendar year in which the season commences. For this season, that means you have to have been born in 2010 or later.