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It wasn't even cut music. They just posted the names of the pieces that will be used, not specific parts of each piece and how they will be arranged together.

The post did say "First part O Verona, second part Gentle Night, third part Montagues and Capulets" which will be the same order as Daria's program. (Not trying to feed the conspiracy, just pointing it out)
 
The post did say "First part O Verona, second part Gentle Night, third part Montagues and Capulets" which will be the same order as Daria's program. (Not trying to feed the conspiracy, just pointing it out)

Trusova first part is "Kissing you" not "O verona"
 
I cant believe some people actually think that Eteri team would make their skater change their program to skate to a random selection of music just for what? Just to spite a rival coach? Daria is their 2nd best junior and you think Eteri would intentionally ruin her medals chance just for that. It wouldnt even affect Trusova because they dont even compete in the same field. If anything it would likely have been the other way round. Daniil G might already have chosen the selection of music when Alexandra was still around and she decided to take the idea with her.
 
Well, give everyone the money and business connections that plushenko has and i guess most of coaches who are successful now but weren't when they debuted would have gotten some results in 3 years.

But you forgot something Plushenko didn't want to be full time coach in the first years. He had many shows in many countries in the world. He loves that! I believe it is very difficult to give up the skating especially if you are beloved and celebrated like him and he could earn a lot of money with it. And you don't forget his grandiose own shows; Nutcracker, Swan Lake, Cinderella. That's a lot of work especially if he wants to make a high level shows. Those were fantastic shows! He has a name thus he didn't want to ruin it. He was the producer, the choreographer, and he skated the main role in them. But he worked in his school, you can't denie the progress of Sima, and Titova, and even Tarakanova.

So you don't say someone else would have done these things much better. :no: I understand, Plushenko haters want to prove how weak coach he is, but his work has really only just begun.
 
I cant believe some people actually think that Eteri team would make their skater change their program to skate to a random selection of music just for what? Just to spite a rival coach? Daria is their 2nd best junior and you think Eteri would intentionally ruin her medals chance just for that. It wouldnt even affect Trusova because they dont even compete in the same field. If anything it would likely have been the other way round. Daniil G might already have chosen the selection of music when Alexandra was still around and she decided to take the idea with her.

Didn’t Alina skate to music Zhenya was known to have wanted after Zhenya left Eteri? And then the muse situation with Kamila. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that this is done intentionally to psych out ex students or try to show who does the program better.
 
Didn’t Alina skate to music Zhenya was known to have wanted after Zhenya left Eteri? And then the muse situation with Kamila. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that this is done intentionally to psych out ex students or try to show who does the program better.

The Alina song was an exhibition with probably the most popular song of the year. And Zhenya had never announced her intention to skate to it, she was just known to be a fan of the artist, and Misha Ge apparently had liked some instagram comments of her doing a Billie Eilish gala... but a choreographer mildly associated with the skater liking instagram comments about the artist does not equal an announcement that she is dong a program to that song...

This current scenario obviously is a lot different though.
 
Basically everyone? Not many start as a main coach and most start with little children who can't even compete as novices. Unless you say that in 2003 Eteri was given juniors and seniors of Tarakanova and Sakhanovich caliber.

But you forgot something Plushenko didn't want to be full time coach in the first years.
I didn't forget. I know that thanks to his money he can afford to have coaches who they work everyday on ice with students while he is doing his shows.

you can't denie the progress of Sima, and Titova, and even Tarakanova.
How Sima and Tarakanova progressed?

So you don't say someone else would have done these things much better!
So bossy. I'm afraid:biggrin:
 
I'm rewatching ol' good times on youtube...
Yulia should've won 2014 Nats over Adelina and Alina should've won 2017 Nats over Evgenia. :hijacked:
 
The Alina song was an exhibition with probably the most popular song of the year. And Zhenya had never announced her intention to skate to it, she was just known to be a fan of the artist, and Misha Ge apparently had liked some instagram comments of her doing a Billie Eilish gala... but a choreographer mildly associated with the skater liking instagram comments about the artist does not equal an announcement that she is dong a program to that song...

This current scenario obviously is a lot different though.

The other poster was talking about POTO, which had always been Zhenya’s dream to skate to.
 
That's not what I'm talking about, one thing is when the program is introduced to the skater, the other one when the idea itself appears, that's I believe, whole year's work, I doubt it is possible to create 20-30 programs from scratch during one or two months.

With Sambo specifically, I have heard about some ideas staying for a long time. But everything else to me sounds like big assumptions from a few comments made by Eteri/Daniil. One example, Sasha's "Game of Thrones" music only came out April 2019. No one is saying all 30 programs are made in the off-season, but it doesn't mean some of them aren't. I'm sure many will say that it isn't possible to create a song in an hour, but Sia does that every single time. These are professionals and we shouldn't underestimate them on what we consider possible.
 
I cant believe some people actually think that Eteri team would make their skater change their program to skate to a random selection of music just for what? Just to spite a rival coach? Daria is their 2nd best junior and you think Eteri would intentionally ruin her medals chance just for that. It wouldnt even affect Trusova because they dont even compete in the same field. If anything it would likely have been the other way round. Daniil G might already have chosen the selection of music when Alexandra was still around and she decided to take the idea with her.

I think what is just as implausible is someone saying it is all just a coincidence. Why is it even necessary to think anyone changed their program? It isn't so unlikely that both sides have knowledge of each other's music before we find out. Maybe this music composition was Rozanov's idea while he was at Sambo....why is that any less likely?
 
With Sambo specifically, I have heard about some ideas staying for a long time. But everything else to me sounds like big assumptions from a few comments made by Eteri/Daniil. One example, Sasha's "Game of Thrones" music only came out April 2019. No one is saying all 30 programs are made in the off-season, but it doesn't mean some of them aren't. I'm sure many will say that it isn't possible to create a song in an hour, but Sia does that every single time. These are professionals and we shouldn't underestimate them on what we consider possible.

I also didn't say any of the programs isn't created in the off-season. On the other hand, I doubt there was a program created on purpose during a fortnight before the test skates :biggrin:

As for "music in a minute", there are many examples, there are also poets who write poetry using chosen words in a short term, but let's be honest, that has a value for a variety show.
 
I'm rewatching ol' good times on youtube...
Yulia should've won 2014 Nats over Adelina and Alina should've won 2017 Nats over Evgenia. :hijacked:

It's hard to be believe Yulia never won Russian Nationals. I guess that means way back then in 2013 they still didn't like EG skaters yet. ;)
 
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