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Does anyone know the qualification system to RusNats? Are placements equivalent to a certain number of points or what?
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I hope they get to go too.He will watch hockey too.
From what I understand, everyone goes to a max of two cup events and (like the Grand Prix in normal years) the placement is equated to a certain number of points, the total of which determines final standing. It looks like you need at least a top 5 finish in both to qualify to RusNats.Does anyone know the qualification system to RusNats? Are placements equivalent to a certain number of points or what?
It's hard not to sneak something in once in awhile about politics here because so many people say this scoring is politically based.Guys.. please try to keep politics out of your posts. It's so divisive. I know that it's tempting and I'm often tempted too to get political but it makes the board really, really contentious.
There are places where it's impossible not to have politics in your answers (like about cancelling events because those decisions are made by politicians or for political reasons) but discussing Putin or Trump or Obama often leads to open warfare around here.

I had some doubts too as to the motivation of the training staff. But it does show the ambition and confidence in Valiyeva.How is this news? Was it ever in doubt?
How is this news? Was it ever in doubt?
What do you know? TSL gossip as the truth?Will Eteri accompany Evgenia to Kazan for her first competition? Depending on if she competes. I know we won't see Daniil....maybe Dudakov will take her.
Maybe with several Grand Prix events already cancelled, none of them counting for world standing/ranking or counting for minimum TES, and being essentially domestic competitions there were questions as to if juniors could compete.How is this news? Was it ever in doubt?
What are you talking about? He already accompanied Anna to two competitions. And he has never been Evgenia's main coach.What do you know? TSL gossip as the truth?
How is that sad that Russians encourage teen to do sports and compete on the highest level? Besides, teens are competing in both men’s and ladies, in various countries, and some of them remain in the sport. Americain male skating was stormed by teens who stayed, and Russia didn’t lose Medvedeva and Tuktamysheva, and America has its own Lui who lead nationally there, and only yesterday Shin, aged 16 won bronze. In both Korea and Japan, leading ladies also skate and win in their teens, so no, it’s not a Russian phenomenon. Russia has quite a statistical sample of ladies who skate competitively that we now see in the Cup, and the talent is the talent... I don’t understand how it is somehow more valuable if it takes 15 years to fully realize vs 10.It's hard not to sneak something in once in awhile about politics here because so many people say this scoring is politically based.
If these somewhat minor stage events are as fiercely contested as they have been so far and as fans have been so up-and-down with the whole thing arguing and battling with each other more than the skaters do what's it going to be like leading up to the Olympic season when you have like six Super girls trying to make one team?
I feel for the second third and fourth tier Russinas who are very good. But the handwriting is on the wall. The kids coming up are all aiming to be number one. It's truly unbelievable and exciting but kind of sad to because if you haven't made it by 17 with the Russian ladies you're not going to. There are no Bradie Tennells and Mariah Bells with the Russian ladies.![]()
I agree in some cases....It's a huge contrast as a fan because Alina, another one of my favourites, is very emotional and you can always tell when things aren't going well both during the skate and afterwards; it affects her entire skate and she's devastated. I see the same with Alena, Daria, and even Kamila. It's a relief when I watch Anna skate because I'm just not as nervous watching her.
And I think that Liza Tuktamysheva is precisely a type of russian Bradie or Mariah. We still have Evgenia, who is 20 already (21 soon), yes, injured now, but not without a chance to return after recovery. And of course Alina. Her intentions are unclear but I don't doubt she would be able to skate no less than on the level we saw at Vegas this weekend.The kids coming up are all aiming to be number one. It's truly unbelievable and exciting but kind of sad to because if you haven't made it by 17 with the Russian ladies you're not going to. There are no Bradie Tennells and Mariah Bells with the Russian ladies.![]()
Not saying you're wrong, but when was the last time Anna failed a FS? She's used to falling on quads at times so I wouldn't think it would affect her. Last season she made almost all or all of her 4Lzes. Not to mention all her jumping passes are Lutzes or Flips, and when you're practicing for quads I doubt you're that worried about the triple. We compare that to Alina where her signature move is her 3Lz-3Lo that she does at the beginning. If she doesn't make that she might not even make the podium, whereas Anna has always banked one quad from the start.It's a huge contrast as a fan because Alina, another one of my favourites, is very emotional and you can always tell when things aren't going well both during the skate and afterwards; it affects her entire skate and she's devastated. I see the same with Alena, Daria, and even Kamila. It's a relief when I watch Anna skate because I'm just not as nervous watching her.
And I think that Liza Tuktamysheva is precisely a type of russian Bradie or Mariah. We still have Evgenia, who is 20 already (21 soon), yes, injured now, but not without a chance to return after recovery. And of course Alina. Her intentions are unclear but I don't doubt she would be able to skate no less than on the level we saw at Vegas this weekend.
Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva were both successful very young. Not that it is bad, but doesn't mean it isn't sad for skaters that their careers are decided so early. But also good in my opinion because they can just focus on other things.How is that sad that Russians encourage teen to do sports and compete on the highest level? Besides, teens are competing in both men’s and ladies, in various countries, and some of them remain in the sport. Americain male skating was stormed by teens who stayed, and Russia didn’t lose Medvedeva and Tuktamysheva, and America has its own Lui who lead nationally there, and only yesterday Shin, aged 16 won bronze. In both Korea and Japan, leading ladies also skate and win in their teens, so no, it’s not a Russian phenomenon. Russia has quite a statistical sample of ladies who skate competitively that we now see in the Cup, and the talent is the talent... I don’t understand how it is somehow more valuable if it takes 15 years to fully realize vs 10.
Back to the early days, Anna's 3f-3lo combo had nice flow - much better than her 3lz-lo which is more forced imo and tends to be a standing still.Anna was good! The only issue is 3Lz-3Lo. It looks like she was tentative (maybe tired), as the 3Lz rotation was the problem. Not more than 1/4, but not a good landing. 3F-3Lo might be better.
Alena plans to stop competing after 2022, so she is not a contendor for 2026.Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva were both successful very young. Not that it is bad, but doesn't mean it isn't sad for skaters that their careers are decided so early. But also good in my opinion because they can just focus on other things.
But for 2026 Olympics you have:
Kostornaia 22
Trusova, Shcherbakova 21
Valieva, Usacheva 19
Akatieva, Samodelkina, Berestovskaya 18
Zhilina 17
All competing for 3 spots, and then there are 2 years worth of skaters I don't even know, to add to that. No wonder Kostornaia already decided she's retiring after 2022.
Veronika's sister Alena who can jump 3A at 10 will be 15 - not sure about her exact birth date but she might be age eligible too. And don't write off Maiia Khromykh - she can fully (?) rotate a 4S in practice already.Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva were both successful very young. Not that it is bad, but doesn't mean it isn't sad for skaters that their careers are decided so early. But also good in my opinion because they can just focus on other things.
But for 2026 Olympics you have:
Kostornaia 22
Trusova, Shcherbakova 21
Valieva, Usacheva 19
Akatieva, Samodelkina, Berestovskaya 18
Zhilina 17
All competing for 3 spots, and then there are 2 years worth of skaters I don't even know, to add to that. No wonder Kostornaia already decided she's retiring after 2022.
Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva were both successful very young. Not that it is bad, but doesn't mean it isn't sad for skaters that their careers are decided so early. But also good in my opinion because they can just focus on other things.
But for 2026 Olympics you have:
Kostornaia 22
Trusova, Shcherbakova 21
Valieva, Usacheva 19
Akatieva, Samodelkina, Berestovskaya 18
Zhilina 17
All competing for 3 spots, and then there are 2 years worth of skaters I don't even know, to add to that. No wonder Kostornaia already decided she's retiring after 2022.