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Kosto was having stamina problems even before getting Covid, so, I'm not super surprised to hear about her withdrawal, considering she had to quarantine recently.

Don't be mad at me for saying this, but so far it seems like the coaching change was a bad move for her at this point, from the competitive side of things and I can't help but wonder what the season would have looked like for her if she had stayed at TT.
she was having stamina problems because of all the training time she missed this year with quarantine this spring, when she moved coaches, had boot problems and now being sick, that doesn't have anything to do with what her team is or isn't doing. this year has brought completely unprecedented circumstances. if this was another season as usual, she wouldn't be having the issues she's had.
 
Health should always be placed first, so while I am sad that Alyona will not be competing, I'm glad she's taking the time to heal. It doesn't look like there will be any huge competition this season, and even if there were worlds, if Liza is also not in great shape (which, she just resumed training so I won't assume she's at her peak), then they might have another skate-off at Russian Cup Final, which gives both of them plenty of time to recover.
Rusnats is the huge competition for the ladies this season. Aliona not being there really hurts.

I would not blame any skater who has been sick with pneumonia or a coronavirus or just a regular virus or a regular flu got to go to Siberia for Nationals where it's going to be very cold let's put it that way. Get out of your car or plane and breathe in 50 degrees below zero temperatures and to your already struggling loans will be a real test for these amazing athletes.

To me this season is shot to hell. Now I'm concerned about the Olympic season next year which would be unbelievable if not for Coronavirus.
Hopefully vaccines will be available to all the figure skaters so they can travel internationally next season and have all the competitions as normal even if there's no fans.
 
Clearly, I already explained what I meant. You are choosing to continue to be offended and make something out of a poorly expressed idea that was clearly not intended.

Anna has never publicly stated that she did not have COVID so she is not lying about anything. But, many Russian skaters have said they had pneumonia only to reveal later it was COVID.
If I may choose between Anna saying "I have a pneumonia" and your stubborn insinuations "it must have been covid" (because all the other diseases disappeared from the surface of the Earth, right), I choose to say "if it had been covid, Anna woud have said it was covid". No more "haha" in this direction, if I may ask.
 
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more roster changes, Shulskaya is out, Onishchenko in.

https://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/2021/rusnat2021_training_groups_upd221220.pdf

From what I've gathered from the rumours in Russian media and boards, the whole of Rozanov's group, including himself, was infected over the past period.

With temperature checks at the door, there could be athletes denied entrance even during competition I suppose.
There's two now out, but one extra in. Is Sultanmagomedova going to get in now as well?
 
Kosto was having stamina problems even before getting Covid, so, I'm not super surprised to hear about her withdrawal, considering she had to quarantine recently.

Don't be mad at me for saying this, but so far it seems like the coaching change was a bad move for her at this point, from the competitive side of things and I can't help but wonder what the season would have looked like for her if she had stayed at TT.
I doubt you're the only one wondering that. But what's done is done and unfortunately this season is a loss for everybody. I think aliona was going through growth issues around Europeans in after Europeans last January so we don't know what would have happened if she had stayed with EG and TT. I think there's a chance she would have still been the great skater she was but when you're dealing with puberty and then with not skating for a few months because of the pandemic that messed everything up for her.

I hope she gets her triple axel back. But the real loss more than her triple axel is not seeing the most beautiful skater in the world skate at Nationals and not seeing that beautiful face of hers light up when smiling. The main thing is for aliona to recover and then get her conditioning level to its highest point of the season so she can still skate in a couple events this season whatever they are.
 
she was having stamina problems because of all the training time she missed this year with quarantine this spring, when she moved coaches, had boot problems and now being sick, that doesn't have anything to do with what her team is or isn't doing. this year has brought completely unprecedented circumstances. if this was another season as usual, she wouldn't be having the issues she's had.
Exactly, I'm not talking about what her team is doing/not doing. Just that all her problems started when she decided to change coaches so last minute.

But, anyway, there's no point in wondering what if... Just wish Kosto a full recovery and a clean start for next season.
 
This is your personal interpretation that you are trying to sell as fact here. The fact that Covid was found in the hospital says NOTHING about where the infection took place.
Well apparently she is healthy enough to skate at the galas no need to continue sounding the alarm. She is still standing, breathing and doing well. The skaters that caught the bug are fine. All the faux outrage and the calls to cancel Russians Nationals because Jenny from the other block caught a cold has been a non starter for a long time now. That's no longer enough reason to cancel events or people continuing their plans. It's good the Russian Fed are being sensible and pragmatic.
 
It’s one of the two: either Anna was faking a pneumonia, because she still has her quads, and that can’t be happening; or she’s lying about having coronavirus, cause it somehow makes anything better for her. Some people here just haven’t decided which one is it.


I don’t get why would it be a problem to admit she had COVID, if she had one. So many Russian skaters did talk about it openly, as did her teammate.
If anything, it would give her benefit of the doubt, that expectations of her on RusNats should be lowered.
Actually, it's perfectly reasonable for Anna to have had pneumonia and still have her quads. She might be lying but I'm going to take her word for it, until proven otherwise. It's perfectly reasonable to have mild forms of both pneumonia or COVID and we don't know at what stage in the illness she let the public know. She might have been almost better by the that time. By pretty much all accounts, she wasn't off the ice for longer than 2 weeks which is about when you start to lose skills. Also by all accounts she already was planning 2-3 quads at nationals before getting sick so she was almost back to her previous peak (from last year). Remember we also haven't seen Anna in 2 months. Despite being sick, she lost less time than Alena and Liza and form before being sick was higher than the other two. Also, she usually delivers in competition. Hence why despite illnesses, most people expect her to do well, partially due to the difficulties/form of her peers.
 
Well apparently she is healthy enough to skate at the galas no need to continue sounding the alarm. She is still standing, breathing and doing well. The skaters that caught the bug are fine. All the faux outrage and the calls to cancel Russians Nationals because Jenny from the other block caught a cold has been a non starter for a long time now. That's no longer enough reason to cancel events or people continuing their plans. It's good the Russian Fed are being sensible and pragmatic.

I hope you‘re joking and this is a satirical post.
 
Kosto was having stamina problems even before getting Covid, so, I'm not super surprised to hear about her withdrawal, considering she had to quarantine recently.

Don't be mad at me for saying this, but so far it seems like the coaching change was a bad move for her at this point, from the competitive side of things and I can't help but wonder what the season would have looked like for her if she had stayed at TT.
I'm not mad. You are saying exactly what I was thinking...
 
To turn to clear waters, some skaters have already arrived, some are still on their way on night trains and night flights. Sof'ya Samodoruva posted a nice picture from the airplane overlooking the snowy landscape.

Tomorrrow, December 23 is official arrival day, with training strictly scheduled without allowances most likely.

From what I've gathered from the press channels, there will be no official live streaming of trainings, no press allowed into the training rink Yunost, nor in the main Tractor rink during trainings there. When FFKKR takes the health of its athletes seriously, they should not allow any contact, but in the end it's up to the individual to adhere to the rules and recommendations. There will be catch-and-go interviews from the street most likely.

No doubt, some skater or staff will do a short live on IG or another social media, otherwise we'd be without any information on declared program content and wether it is actually shown in training.

Best keep all your Telegram channels on alert to catch even the slightest snippet of information.

Second reserve Kamila Sultanmagomedova not called?
 
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So. Listen. I do not care if I‘ll be getting an infraction for this but I‘ll say this: You‘re sick.

I hope you‘re aware Aliona is a minor and the “dark haired handsome young man“ a grown adult in a position of power over her. Making such allusions in a sport that‘s known to have trainers abuse their power over literal children is gross, gross, gross. (not saying at all it happened here, just that it has before, so creating rumours like this is dangerous)

You‘ve spent all summer insinuating things about Sasha‘s parents, calling them money hungry and her an petulant child. You called Kostornaia an arrogant drama queen in this very same post. Okay, do it, if you think it‘s in good taste to talk about teenagers like this.

But this is where I draw the line. Such rumours are not only mean, they‘re potentially dangerous.

Anyway, I broke my hiatus from this forum for this, so good job lol. Anyway, I wish Aliona health and fast recovery and hope that none of the other skaters will have lasting health troubles after having to put their barely recovered bodies through this competition.

Welcome back from your hiatus.

Aliona and Zhenya wont be at nationals but it should still be an exciting event. I just hope the skaters and coaches stay healthy and do what they can to keep others healthy as well.

I don't think Edwin was saying any anything about Sergei having any kind of power over Aliona that could lead to something bad. She is fond of him as a coach and maybe as a person and that's fine. I think the question we all have to ask is this Sergei a reason aliona became the best female skater in the world last season? I think the answer is without question yes. he played a role in that along with EG and Danil and Dudakov. Then the pandemic hit and Sasha left for PA and then young Sergei left for PA and I think that put the mental Wheels in Motion for Aliona to consider doing the same. I think she realized she lost her 3A through puberty and not skating for months. I'm sure she thought young Sergei could help her get her triple axel back. That is a decision based on coaching. Whether it works out for Aliona or not remains to be seen. I think we all are in agreement we want to see her smiling again and skating again. Unfortunately coronavirus is running wild.

Aliona leaving TT came as a shock to millions of fans because she was so good last season at TT. Her debut season was almost perfect. Just frustrating to see such a great skater as aliona stricken down by covid-19 and her season put on hold.

I hope we're not going through this whole scenario again a year from now in the Olympic season. I hope these athletes get a vaccine if their families approve and they think it's the right thing to do.
 
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Honestly, I'm not even totally on board with letting Anna or Liza perform here. As seen with Zhenya, Covid can have several lasting after effects and it's never safe to jeopardize your health for one competition that may not even matter. While I respect Anna and Liza's attitudes of perseverance, I really wish they could take proper time to train first. Alyona withdrawing if she feels unwell is in no way an invitation for anyone to say she simply wants to avoid being embarrassed, if anything it's a sensible decision made with her health and her future in thought.
 
Of course, in the case of someone, who had narrow contact to infected and then decide to go to a major event, it's understandable that he does not want to hear a whine. You would have my full understanding in this case.
It's not like that - we are all (including my wife) are officially clear off any quarantine. So I did not consider my personal risk to the society - I considered the risk to be infected myself, then my children.....if I correctly unerstood what you meant.
 
Honestly, I'm not even totally on board with letting Anna or Liza perform here. As seen with Zhenya, Covid can have several lasting after effects and it's never safe to jeopardize your health for one competition that may not even matter. While I respect Anna and Liza's attitudes of perseverance, I really wish they could take proper time to train first. Alyona withdrawing if she feels unwell is in no way an invitation for anyone to say she simply wants to avoid being embarrassed, if anything it's a sensible decision made with her health and her future in thought.
I hope that Anna didn't feel pressured to go because she's reigning champion. And I hope her first full runthrough wont be at a competition. Pneumonia really affects stamina too.
 
Honestly, I'm not even totally on board with letting Anna or Liza perform here. As seen with Zhenya, Covid can have several lasting after effects and it's never safe to jeopardize your health for one competition that may not even matter. While I respect Anna and Liza's attitudes of perseverance, I really wish they could take proper time to train first. Alyona withdrawing if she feels unwell is in no way an invitation for anyone to say she simply wants to avoid being embarrassed, if anything it's a sensible decision made with her health and her future in thought.
I am just going to say ‘yes’, though I am not sure when Scherbakova resumed training. Depending on the duration of her illness, she might be in a good shape/recovered state. If, however, she is not, that would be a bad decision by her coaching team.
 
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