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I'm interested to know why you didn't think it was disrespectful then but do now? I'm genuinely just curious. Is it phrasing, tone, or just circumstances?
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Haha not A+ just A's haha. And that's only the last couple terms before that I definitely wasn't haha.
Also grades aren't a perfect measure of success! Hard work and determination matters just as much if not more
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Oh socs pls. This sentence could be taken very very wrongly. Like Zhulin-level type of wrong.Well, he is the Fairytale Prince of Russia! So nice of him to give the 8 year old girl a happy ending.
... I actually don't see how, but it's okay, no need to tell me lolOh socs pls. This sentence could be taken very very wrongly. Like Zhulin-level type of wrong.
Either I've gone crazy or lost my memory. But I'm pretty sure I've never seen these videos myself before. I think the poster is referring to my post about Talalaikina where I mentioned Kostornaia.
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ffff
An average Russian girl vs. famous Russian producer with a legal team. The contract is totally fair (why’s there are so many scandals whenever Russian artists try to leave producers? They’re all so fair?)
let’s not be naive.
Was this contract fair? I guess we’ll never know because NDA and Yana’s legal team will keep Aliona silent.
Y’all are seriously debating how is it okay that she’s in this trouble now? This money won’t put a dent in Plushenko family budget, perhaps they’ll do with one Dior outfit less. We all know that it likely puts Aliona in big trouble, and simply serves as public punishment and scare tactic for their future “runaways”.
A big lesson learned for her anyway: stay away from private schools run by producers, don’t trust a single word that comes out of Plushenko’s mouth, and hire a psychologist to forget those last 6 months like a bad dream.
Sure sure. She was asking for trouble? Lol, way to blame a victim.
An average Russian girl vs. famous Russian producer with a legal team. The contract is totally fair (why’s there are so many scandals whenever Russian artists try to leave producers? They’re all so fair?)
let’s not be naive.
Was this contract fair? I guess we’ll never know because NDA and Yana’s legal team will keep Aliona silent.
Y’all are seriously debating how is it okay that she’s in this trouble now? This money won’t put a dent in Plushenko family budget, perhaps they’ll do with one Dior outfit less. We all know that it likely puts Aliona in big trouble, and simply serves as public punishment and scare tactic for their future “runaways”.
A big lesson learned for her anyway: stay away from private schools run by producers, don’t trust a single word that comes out of Plushenko’s mouth, and hire a psychologist to forget those last 6 months like a bad dream.
I'm actually very famous and a very important person
Should have mentioned presidents
Usual RusFed stand is "We don't know anything about it".
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I agree. Let us not be naive.
What average Russian girl are we talking about here? It wasn't she who signed contracts, but her mother. An adult, legally competent woman who has no more adolescent hormonal surges and who should have understood after her daughter's first faux pas at the latest that it is better to think first and then act.
Basically everything would have been very easy if, like everyone else, one had adhered to the applicable regulations. Change the team within the transfer window and you will not have any problems with the financing. If the ordinary Russian girl wants exclusive services, ask them to be more modest or familiarize yourself with the terms on which they can be used, read contracts you sign and there will be no nasty surprises .
But no, the mother-daughter team apparently thought they were smarter than the rest even after the first scandal.
No, in my eyes they are not victims, but the exact opposite. They put everyone involved and bystanders around them (and of course yourself) in a very awkward situation (to put it mildly). Should they bear the consequences and finally learn to act responsibly.
To argue that this money will not affect the Plushenko's budget is, of course, very amusing. According to this logic, can I ignore all debts that I myself owe to people or companies that are financially secure? Bravo!
Your conclusion is also interesting. Strangely enough, it is not "stick to current regulations, only enter into contractual commitments when you can assess the consequences and act in the knowledge that you are responsible for your child", but rather "carry on like this and avoid Private schools.". Bravo again, this is exactly how you educate young people to be responsible citizens.
Sorry, but didn't you say we shouldn't be naive?
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what RusFed can do is name another substitute for the WC.
First of all, I wish Aliona well and I really hope that all this drama will end soon so she could focus on her career and work without stress.
But, seriously? Claiming that it is fine to breach a contract because one side of conflict is wealthy enough to afford this, is ridiculous. If they do want to buy this additional Dior outfit, not sponsor one skater's career, it is for them to decide. I know that sounds harsh, but her parents signed legally binding document and that's how it is.
BTW, neither Aliona is 'average Russian girl'.
I simply hope that all parties involved can sit together and come to the agreement that will not ruin Aliona's career but lessons learned for her should be something very much different than: avoid private schools.
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Oh they are absolutely about to bear the consequences, that family will shake the last penny out of them.
Debt? Cool analogy! Shall we go that route?
Yes, you should pay if it’s in a proper bank with a proper contract. You should also pay if you got into predatory lending/micro-credit/payday loans scheme and now can’t get out, because things in a fine print got you into ever increasing interest rate hell. It will be the fault of the person who got into that scheme, but wouldn’t mean I won’t feel sorry for those people and say those who got them into that mess have an ounce of honor.
Their fault yes, but we can’t ignore multiple loud proclamations how she’s got nothing to worry about and how he foots the bill, and how there’re NO contracts with Aliona.
So yes, people should avoid contracts like these, same as they should avoid predatory payday loans.
You’re entitled to your own opinion on this, I’m to my own.
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Not telling them to do so and let her go free, I’m just telling what are the real motivations behind that move. Also it is fair to call them out on hypocrisy of what they said publicly and what it turned out to be in reality.
Legally sure no questions, morally I have some. Obviously people have a different level of tolerance to what they consider honest or dishonest. You and I seem to be different. I’m not telling you personally to not enroll into Plushenko’s school, you can do that right now if you wish.
Now, I’m just really hoping she can get out of this without the kind of damage to her health, that Serafima suffered.
I don't see how anyone said "avoid private schools". People have specifically taken issue with Plushenko's own private school for saying something to the face and doing something else behind the scenes. As nussnacker put it, the "private school run by producers"... Whatever that means. I don't think anyone can deny the success of private schools when TCC etc exist, but those are run by actual skaters and coaches (with some management staff thrown in of course).
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Well, I didn’t know if Eteri was going to take her back with all those issues facing Aliona, but I hope we can say she did? I would wait for official confirmation, but this gives hope.
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