2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Amei]

Relax, don't worry.

One of my first posts on this forum was about the criteria for assigning places in the Grand Prix.

Skaters who medaled at Junior World Championships and decide turn into seniors, will get at least one spot for the Grand Prix Series.

The Junior World Championships 2021 and all the season events were canceled, the current Junior World Champion is K-missile (Kamila), the silver medal is Daria. They have secured at least one spot. But the RussFed is going to get them two assignments.

When T-SH-K turned into Senior, Sasha was ranked 19th, Anna and Alëna were deeper down on the list. Alena missed the JWC because of an injury and still she got two assignments.

That WS list is wrong, why are they still classifying Victoria Vasileva, Viveca Lindfords? I didn't go through the full list, but I wouldn't be surprised if Alëna Kanisheva was ranked.

#110 to be exact

 

[Tonight's the Night]

Looks like Little Dasha got in one more competition before the season ended -- and she went through both programs without falling! In case anyone is interested:

 

[flanker]

Looks like Little Dasha got in one more competition before the season ended -- and she went through both programs without falling! In case anyone is interested:

Charming. I was already admiring her 2A she landed during the SP at that competition. She's beautiful performer already, I hope we will see her at the JGP next season (which will be interesting, supersonic Sofia, Adeliya, perhaps Daria, Sofia Samodelkina).

 

[flanker]

Anna's vlog about the travel and preparation for WTT:

 

[silveruskate]

So Veronika Zhilina can land 4 beautiful triple axels in a row but not in competition? What is going on here??

https://www.another site.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/mq67yj/nika_jet_zhilina_trains_triple_axel/

 

[Amei]

So Veronika Zhilina can land 4 beautiful triple axels in a row but not in competition? What is going on here??

https://www.another site.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/mq67yj/nika_jet_zhilina_trains_triple_axel/

There are many skaters that are phenomenal in practice but when competition time comes around they can't deliver. But let's remember she's like 12-13 years old, she can still adapt to competitions.

 

[Vilord]

I hope we will see her at the JGP next season

I hope we get a JGP at all next season... This season have really not given juniors any oppertunities internationally

 

[Vilord]

So Veronika Zhilina can land 4 beautiful triple axels in a row but not in competition? What is going on here??

https://www.another site.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/mq67yj/nika_jet_zhilina_trains_triple_axel/

She clearly have problems with delivering in competitions. I hope they will work on that because she really has all the ingredients to be a superstar. If she succeds it would really give some legitimacy to AoP. With Sasha TT will allways be credited with getting her the quads and making her a star so AoP will never be able to claim true ownership to any succes she may gain.

 

[flanker]

Ah, the measures...

 

[Paulipau]

Plushy is throwing all rubles at Sasha.
He hired Nathan Chens coach as a consultant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNpW5t7JE8C/?igshid=1mfa4k0p5axi6

 

[macy]

Plushy is throwing all rubles at Sasha.
He hired Nathan Chens coach as a consultant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNpW5t7JE8C/?igshid=1mfa4k0p5axi6

looks like they're doing all they can to do 5 quads and this is their plan to win the olympics. i wonder if she will mainly work with him over the phone or if there will be back and forth visits, but i can't imagine he has the time to travel all the way to Moscow often with Nathan full time, especially in season.

 

[Lzbee]

Plushy is throwing all rubles at Sasha.
He hired Nathan Chens coach as a consultant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNpW5t7JE8C/?igshid=1mfa4k0p5axi6

Ok for a second there I read that as "he hired Nathan Chen as a coach". Now that would be quite the drama.

 

[Arbitrary]

Plushy is throwing all rubles at Sasha.
He hired Nathan Chens coach as a consultant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNpW5t7JE8C/?igshid=1mfa4k0p5axi6

Arutjunyan is likely to participate in Trusova's training.

 

[icybear]

I think Trusova main problem is mentality rather than technique. In the practice she landed 5 quads program like nothing.

 

[Paulipau]

I think Trusova main problem is mentality rather than technique. In the practice she landed 5 quads program like nothing.

Yes, I think that technique isn't a problem.

She did have brakes during practice tho, during run-throughs in WC she was botching the Chsq and StSq, so I'm kinda worried that there are limits to 17yo girls stamina. Nathan is after all a male, he has different physics.

 

[Minz]

I wouldn't be surprised if Alëna Kanisheva was ranked.

She is still on the list. Ranked 110th with 357 points.

 

[Minz]

She did have brakes during practice tho, during run-throughs in WC she was botching the Chsq and StSq, so I'm kinda worried that there are limits to 17yo girls stamina. Nathan is after all a male, he has different physics.

Of course there are limits. There is a reason that very few ladies can do quads, and even Nathan has limits.
Including men, there are about what, 100? 150? 200? people who have ever landed a quad? Maybe less? (Counting practices, etc)

200 out of 7.5 billion people. Think about that for a second.

That‘s insane.

 

[Paulipau]

Of course there are limits. There is a reason that very few ladies can do quads, and even Nathan has limits.
Including men, there are about what, 100? 150? 200? people who have ever landed a quad? Maybe less? (Counting practices, etc)

200 out of 7.5 billion people. Think about that for a second.

That‘s insane.

Also, Nathan is the only man doing this many quads, right?

All the other guys are doing max 4 but mostly 3 or 2.

 

[starlight97]

Including men, there are about what, 100? 150? 200? people who have ever landed a quad? Maybe less? (Counting practices, etc)

200 out of 7.5 billion people. Think about that for a second.

That‘s insane.

That's a totally wonky statistic à la logical fallacy and I don't find it insane at all.
Yeah only 200 out of the entire world population have jumped a quad...but not the entire world population trains to be a Figure Skater ... and the very few people in the world who ever figure skate at all in their lives, the vast majority don't even train to go elite.
If you had the whole world trying for a quad as a career you would have thousands and thousands of them.
In world level men's skating they are considered standard now and we already need more than two hands to count all the ladies who have jumped them.
It's like saying "OMG so few people in the world can run 10.000m at the Olympics" - well yeah cause almost nobody in the world trains for that since being a kid.

 

[macy]

That's a totally wonky statistic à la logical fallacy and I don't find it insane at all.
Yeah only 200 out of the entire world population have jumped a quad...but not the entire world population trains to be a Figure Skater ... and the very few people in the world who ever figure skate at all in their lives, the vast majority don't even train to go elite.
If you had the whole world trying for a quad as a career you would have thousands and thousands of them.
In world level men's skating they are considered standard now and we already need more than two hands to count all the ladies who have jumped them.
It's like saying "OMG so few people in the world can run 10.000m at the Olympics" - well yeah cause almost nobody in the world trains for that since being a kid.

i think you're forgetting how small of a percentage of skaters make it to elite status alone, outside of even landing quads. most competitive skaters don't make it to nationals at any level here in the US. i'd even go as far as saying most don't get past double axels or early triples, many never land a double axel at all even if they are skating at the competitive level. 90% of my competitors including myself quit at the point of learning a 2A and early triples.

being you are the same poster who made the assumption an amateur level skater doing 2 sessions per week can land triples, i can't say i'm surprised by this comment at all.