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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

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This is waaay off topic but, I was just watching Alena Leonova's 2012 SP and it makes me wonder what she is up to these days. Does anyone know?
As far as I know, she hasn't competed since she got married to figure skater Anton Shulepov in April 2019. But there has been no official announcement of retirement yet.

I think she might work with the Rukavicin girls? (Nugumanova, Gubanova, Talalaikina). She has choreographed Maria Talalaikina's magnificent Maleficent program this season, and she was spotted in the K&C with Gubanova at a Saint Petersburg competition earlier this season.


:laugh: LOL! And there I got the chance to promote Talalaikina's free program again!
 
As far as I know, she hasn't competed since she got married to figure skater Anton Shulepov in April 2019. But there has been no official announcement of retirement yet.

I think she might work with the Rukavicin girls? (Nugumanova, Gubanova, Talalaikina). She has choreographed Maria Talalaikina's magnificent Maleficent program this season, and she was spotted in the K&C with Gubanova at a Saint Petersburg competition earlier this season.


:laugh: LOL! And there I got the chance to promote Talalaikina's free program again!
Translation help please.

What does Maria say at 5:18 when she turns to the camera.
 
Translation help please.

What does Maria say at 5:18 when she turns to the camera.

She says "promote my free program on Golden Skate!"

Just joking -- I definitely heard a Привет to someone named Dima and someone named Alina, right? I don't really know any Russian.

This time while re-watching the program I very much appreciated her ice coverage during the step sequence. It's like a whole different beast when a step sequence is that far-ranging across the ice. I also appreciated her speed in general throughout the program.

I really do think she got a fortunate synergy of music and choreo too, and that that's responsible for a lot of my enjoyment. The initial burst of energy, followed by the mellower vocal section, then the percussive stuff leading up to those big final chords. A satisfying shape. The final spins really complement the final moments of the music nicely.
 
How can you possibly get a 2pts difference ? For instance, she gets that 10% backloading bonus on 3F instead of 3Lz-3Lo. I don't understand your numbers.
Re: backloading, it's just another thing that stacks up. We see how Anna was able to eat into Liza's base value in the short program by doing backloaded 3Lz-3Lox vs. Liza's 3Lz-3T. Yes, Liza's 3A got 5.5 points more than Anna's 2A, but Anna's combo got 2.37 more than Liza's - that's erasing more than 1/2 of the 3A advantage. Both the loop combo and the backloading individually barely do anything but combined, and with Anna's advantage in the spins, the gap vanishes completely.
 
New Topic: Next year JGP?

Sviridenko's recent 200+ showing has complicated things. It's highly likely that these girls will get a JGP assignment (and a second one if they deliver):
  • Akatieva
  • Petrosyan
  • Muravyeva
  • Samodelkina
  • Berestovskaya
Since Russia is hosting a JGP next season and can send three there, that means at least three more girls from this list will get a chance:
  • Frolova
  • Osokina
  • Paramanova
  • Sviridenko
  • Zhilina
  • Dmitrieva
Here is where it gets interesting. By nationals order, it should be Frolova, Osokina, and Paramanova. But, will Frolova be given a third season like Tarakanova and Konstantinova, or will she be banished to the Russian Cup? Zhilina and Dmitrieva with their Ultra-C elements, and now Sviridenko even without Ultra-C elements, can show up at an early competition next season like Kostornaia at Moscow Open in 17-18 and show their scoring potential.

Unfortunately with the arrival of Dvoeglazova, Gordeeva, and others in 22-23, there is too much depth to just say "oh they'll get a chance next year." This is a make-or-break moment for the careers of these girls! Good luck to all and I wish there were more spots.
 
New Topic: Next year JGP?

Sviridenko's recent 200+ showing has complicated things. It's highly likely that these girls will get a JGP assignment (and a second one if they deliver):
  • Akatieva
  • Petrosyan
  • Muravyeva
  • Samodelkina
  • Berestovskaya
Since Russia is hosting a JGP next season and can send three there, that means at least three more girls from this list will get a chance:
  • Frolova
  • Osokina
  • Paramanova
  • Sviridenko
  • Zhilina
  • Dmitrieva
Here is where it gets interesting. By nationals order, it should be Frolova, Osokina, and Paramanova. But, will Frolova be given a third season like Tarakanova and Konstantinova, or will she be banished to the Russian Cup? Zhilina and Dmitrieva with their Ultra-C elements, and now Sviridenko even without Ultra-C elements, can show up at an early competition next season like Kostornaia at Moscow Open in 17-18 and show their scoring potential.

Unfortunately with the arrival of Dvoeglazova, Gordeeva, and others in 22-23, there is too much depth to just say "oh they'll get a chance next year." This is a make-or-break moment for the careers of these girls! Good luck to all and I wish there were more spots.
Daria Sadkova will be also narrowly junior eligible for the 2021-22 season.
 
Re: backloading, it's just another thing that stacks up. We see how Anna was able to eat into Liza's base value in the short program by doing backloaded 3Lz-3Lox vs. Liza's 3Lz-3T. Yes, Liza's 3A got 5.5 points more than Anna's 2A, but Anna's combo got 2.37 more than Liza's - that's erasing more than 1/2 of the 3A advantage. Both the loop combo and the backloading individually barely do anything but combined, and with Anna's advantage in the spins, the gap vanishes completely.
The 3A BV advantage is 4.7. Anna's 3Lo is worth 0.7 more than 3T. And the backloading difference is 1.08 vs 0.53, so 0.55. Actually Anna only removes 1.25 of the 3A advantage through TES. And the actual advantage Liza has is more than 4.7 because of 3A GOE. Even if Anna didn't backload her combination she would STILL have scored higher than Liza at both Worlds and WTT. The main way Anna makes up the difference is quality of elements and PCS.
 
Still UR and close to Downgrade, as well as a step-out. But good to see her trying. I was predicting an attempt, should have said it! :D
The main thing is that after the transition to Eteri, progress is visible. I'm starting to think that with Esteri is starting to jump everything that gets to the her rink.
 
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