2021-2022 US Women's Figure Skating
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But the increase in age limit stipulated in those proposals occurs on a stagger, not all at once in a single season:
The Council proposes in the next season to leave the age of advancement to seniors in all disciplines unchanged (at 15 years), in the 2023/24 season to raise the age to 16 years, in the 2024/25 season to 17 years.
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If Isabeau can turn senior next fall, I am sure that she will go for a full senior season. She will certainly get at least one Senior Grand Prix spot, Skate America, and her scores internationally this season were on par with those of the senior US ladies.
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I'm interested in this year though. I'm ok with Karen takes the team event medal home. As I said before, she is deserved for the team event medal by claiming the third spot for USA. However, Karen is clearly struggling for the whole season. Enough is enough. It's time to send some potential youngers to the major competitions. I hope Lindsay goes to World next month, not Amber and Karen. Isabeau turns to 15 and she can skate in GP this fall, right? Isabeau is the next Sasha Cohen. Hope she can get two GP this fall. At least, please don't assign blood bath GP to Alysa next season. Alysa is deserved for Skate America GP. She needs a senior GP medal to boost her confidence.
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Yes thank you.
Going into the next season, I think Alysa has solidified herself as the top US lady. I think Mariah and Karen will be retiring, Bradie is a question mark, and Amber is well, still Amber lol. It will be almost a complete handing over of the gauntlet to a new generation of US ladies skating who I predict will be led by Alysa, Isabeau, and Lindsay.
It’s funny because they kind of remind me of 3A. First we have Isabeau, the real artist of the group who will probably dominate in PCS, but will lag in tech behind the other two with the weakest jumping technique. Second is Lindsay who is the real technician of the group. I think she has the most ‘pure’ jumping technique of the 3, but she really lacks in the performance aspect. Lastly, we of course have Alysa. For almost her entire career her strength was known to be her jumps, but to my greatest surprise she’s made leaps and bounds of improvent in her component scores and I actually find them on an equal level with her tech. Alysa seems to be the most balanced of the 3, having no particular weaknesses at this point (by US ladies skating standards) while improving in all areas steadily over time.
My US ladies ranking for next season on GP/competition selection priority, excluding Karen, Mariah, Bradie, and Gabby.
Senior
1. Alysa
2. Isabeau
3. Lindsay
4. Amber
5. Audrey
6. Clare (if she goes senior)
Junior
1. Clare (if she stays junior)
2. Kanon (even with her absence this entire season, she was chosen as 2nd alt for worlds. Also we all know Tammy politicking
)
3. Josephine
4. Ava
5. Mia
It’s funny because they kind of remind me of 3A. First we have Isabeau, the real artist of the group who will probably dominate in PCS, but will lag in tech behind the other two with the weakest jumping technique. Second is Lindsay who is the real technician of the group. I think she has the most ‘pure’ jumping technique of the 3, but she really lacks in the performance aspect. Lastly, we of course have Alysa. For almost her entire career her strength was known to be her jumps, but to my greatest surprise she’s made leaps and bounds of improvent in her component scores and I actually find them on an equal level with her tech. Alysa seems to be the most balanced of the 3, having no particular weaknesses at this point (by US ladies skating standards) while improving in all areas steadily over time.
My US ladies ranking for next season on GP/competition selection priority, excluding Karen, Mariah, Bradie, and Gabby.
Senior
1. Alysa
2. Isabeau
3. Lindsay
4. Amber
5. Audrey
6. Clare (if she goes senior)
Junior
1. Clare (if she stays junior)
2. Kanon (even with her absence this entire season, she was chosen as 2nd alt for worlds. Also we all know Tammy politicking
)3. Josephine
4. Ava
5. Mia
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It's unclear if Alysa is going to continue competing next season. She has expressed interest in wanting to apply to college and their competitive career has been quite the gauntlet considering how much pressure has been on her since the very beginning. I hope that their exceptional Olympics experience will help motivate her to keep competing because I think Alysa still has a lot to give to the sport.
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I think Karen and Nathan can be good role models for her by showing it's possible to balance school with skating. But I could also see her wanting to move on, given how much pressure has surrounded her career thus far. If she regains a consistent 3A, she'd probably be the top US woman for the forseeable future.
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IIRC, Mariah stated in her “age is just a number” media rounds at Nationals that she wanted to continue beyond this season. Who knows if her physical capabilities will last much longer - the triple-triple is now more or less a Hail Mary - but I could see her remaining competitive domestically for another season or two. Gracie also made a remark during interviews at Nats to the effect of “have we ever had a 30-year-old Olympian?” so perhaps she will persist as well.
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Good point. Mariah has declined somewhat technically, but she was at her peak around the age of 22 or 23, so Alysa could remain competitive and continue improving even beyond the next Olympics if she remains committed.
At one point during Olympics, all three U.S. women were being interviewed together. When all were asked to raise a hand if they planned to try for 2026, Alysa’s hand stayed firmly down (along with the other 2). She likely is already getting lucrative scholarship offers from top schools — and has said she no longer plans to train a quad. Her Wiki bio says that her homeschooling has her on track to graduate high school in the 2021-22 school year. It wouldn’t surprise me if she moves on after this season.
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The next generation of skaters are quite promising. For example, not only do we have Alysa Liu, we also have Isabeau Levito, Lindsay Thorngren, Clare Seo, Ava Ziegler, Kanon Smith, Mia Kalin, Kate Wang, Audrey Shin, and many others. Apart from the new generation, we have Bradie Tennell who will surely be fighting to end her career on her own terms and Amber Glenn. This next quad could be really interesting in how these women push each other and I am very excited to witness the rise of "new blood."
In other news, Lindsay Thorngren (5S), Katie Shen (4J), Elyce-Lin Gracey (5J), and Soho Lee (Advanced Novice division) will represent the US at the Challenger Cup. The competition is from February 24 to 27.
In other news, Lindsay Thorngren (5S), Katie Shen (4J), Elyce-Lin Gracey (5J), and Soho Lee (Advanced Novice division) will represent the US at the Challenger Cup. The competition is from February 24 to 27.
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Nice to see Elyce-Lin in this field. She had very artistically developed programs by Karen Kwan at Junior Nationals.
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Alysa Liu is featured in this NYTimes article where she says that they are undecided about continuing for another four years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/...hletes-2026.html?referringSource=articleShare
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/...hletes-2026.html?referringSource=articleShare
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Alysa takes the route of Karen Chen and leaves for a year or two before returning.
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I'd prefer that they raise the age every two years, so someone doesn't miss three years of eligibility by being born one day too late.
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Yes! Gracie! I will push her in her wheelchair right out to the ice! Skate on my Queen. Skate on.
From this article
Just great!!
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Thanks to Eteri. Thanks to Russians. Figure skating sport is ruined forever. It's toxic for Alysa (and other clean athletes) to continue to compete in this kind of sickening women figure skating competition. However, I still hope that she can continue to find joy in skating and do the skating shows.
Alysa is very popular in South Korea and other countries in Asia now. She can do the skating shows in Asia if she wants to. Alysa's gala performance surpassed 1.2M views within 8hrs in South Korea.
갈라쇼에서 ITZY ＜LOCO＞ 안무 그대로 춘 '알리사 리우'
출처 : 여성시대 Ruth Bader 갈라쇼 명단에 들 줄 몰라서 그냥 좋아하는 노래로 선정했다고 함! 기존 안무 따온 앞부분! 하이라이트도 따왔음Olympic figure skater Alysa Liuchoreography is perfectm.cafe.daum.net
I disagree with you that it is ruined forever, any more than it was ruined forever after SLC or after the "foot tapping incident" at Worlds. I believe it can be fixed with the will to do so. The question is does the will to do so exist?
Alysa has so many choices and options! They are at an exciting time in their life for sure!
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