The Senior Pairs SP is scheduled for tomorrow, 7/30 at 2pm PDT and the FS is Sat 7/31 at 3:55 pm PDT.
2021-22 U.S. Pairs Figure Skating
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^^ Thanks for pointing that out @chuckm. The official schedule on the event website is confusing.
For those who are interested, someone posted a link in U.S. men's thread for Glacier Falls livestreaming. The cost is $10 for each full day of coverage.
A link to interesting background on the Glacier Falls club:
glacierfalls.com
In other news, did any of you catch Jordan Cowan's OIP post of Ash C-B working out at an off-ice fitness training facility in Texas. My icegirl gets her burn on!
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Another great clip from OIP! This time demonstrating how important fitness and strength-training are for figure skaters (and athletes in general), in order to be at peak performance and to prevent injuries.
I also recall some great video clips Jess Calalang has previously shared on her Instagram showing her working out on Pilates equipment for strengthening and stretching. I gained a revealing look at the hard work behind all the beautiful positions Jess easily presents in lifts and death spirals, in addition to her general gracefulness, and her core (back) strength on throw landings.
Ash often posts clips on her Instagram too, working out individually, and with Timothy. C-G/LD are looking quite sharp in their practice clips during their recent training camp in Finland, with Mozer's group.
The season will soon be upon us, as summer events heat up. Fingers-crossed that lingering pandemic outbreaks will not impact the skating season.
For those who are interested, someone posted a link in U.S. men's thread for Glacier Falls livestreaming. The cost is $10 for each full day of coverage.
A link to interesting background on the Glacier Falls club:
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glacierfalls.com
In other news, did any of you catch Jordan Cowan's OIP post of Ash C-B working out at an off-ice fitness training facility in Texas. My icegirl gets her burn on!
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Another great clip from OIP! This time demonstrating how important fitness and strength-training are for figure skaters (and athletes in general), in order to be at peak performance and to prevent injuries.
I also recall some great video clips Jess Calalang has previously shared on her Instagram showing her working out on Pilates equipment for strengthening and stretching. I gained a revealing look at the hard work behind all the beautiful positions Jess easily presents in lifts and death spirals, in addition to her general gracefulness, and her core (back) strength on throw landings.
Ash often posts clips on her Instagram too, working out individually, and with Timothy. C-G/LD are looking quite sharp in their practice clips during their recent training camp in Finland, with Mozer's group.
The season will soon be upon us, as summer events heat up. Fingers-crossed that lingering pandemic outbreaks will not impact the skating season.
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Re Glacier Falls:
Senior Pairs SP is scheduled for Jul 30 at 12:40 pm PDT (in Olympic Rink).
Start order:
- Liu/O'Shea
- Calalang/Johnson
- McBeath/Bartholomay
Start order:
- Liu/O'Shea
- Calalang/Johnson
- McBeath/Bartholomay
[The next line on the Glacier results page is Junior Women SP at 2:00 pm PDT (in NHL Rink).]
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Results of Senior Pairs SP at Glacier:
64.67 LIU / O'SHEA - clean except for a -0.5 GOE on the throw
64.22 CALALANG / JOHNSON - 3s<<, -0.88 GOE on the throw; got higher PCS than L/O
58.68 McBEATH / BARTOLOMAY - clean but for slight -GOE on death spiral
64.67 LIU / O'SHEA - clean except for a -0.5 GOE on the throw
64.22 CALALANG / JOHNSON - 3s<<, -0.88 GOE on the throw; got higher PCS than L/O
58.68 McBEATH / BARTOLOMAY - clean but for slight -GOE on death spiral
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I saw the SP live. The novice and junior pairs were fun to watch as well, in terms of getting to see their growth and development.
Juniors:
Baram/ Tioumentsev 54.31
Fleming/ Finster 52.47
Novice:
Olivia Mendoza
Aiden Elswich 23.42
Anna Yau
John Gormley 23.34
The judging to me seems a bit low for the senior pairs here. I know it's early in the season, and the athletes should be stronger as they become more comfortable over the course of the season. Still, I'd love an explanation for some of the scoring, especially from Judge 4 who scored everyone the lowest scores in PCS categories.
I knew C/J should have the highest score on their 3-twist, which is so effortless, and one of the highest and best in the world. All the judges gave 4 to C/J on that element. There should have been some 5s too, but apparently judges are being conservative.
While Liu/O'Shea got a 3, two 2s and two 4s on their 3-twist, I think L/O should probably receive mainly 3s at this point on their 3-twist, and I wouldn't argue with 2s for L/O. I disagree with the last two judges giving 4s for L/O and C/J on 3-twist. There's no question that C/J's 3-twist is better. So if those judges feel L/O deserve 4s, then they should have given C/J 5s.
I point this out as an example of poor judging. What are they looking at? The judging is uneven and mostly inconsistent, particularly when examining the point-by-point breakdowns.
I agree with L/O in first, but the scores seem off in different categories. I agree with C/J having overall better PCS, because they are fast, have excellent SS, and possess a synchronicity and a comfort level with each other that L/O are still developing. I can see the scores close, but C/J had more obvious miscues on their sbs jump and throw. I was surprised to see Jess not land her throw jump with greater confidence. That's not usual for her. Whatever C/J's personal adversity setback, it must have impacted their training. They look like they are still working things through. Good luck to them. They are a quality team.
And it's great to see L/O looking so good as a newly paired team. I would have L/O a bit higher in the the marks, by at least another point. Chelsea still has to work on getting her free leg out of the way on landings. This is such a great program for L/O, and they clearly enjoy skating it.
In general, all the PCS are low in some categories. Some conservative scoring across-the-board, and questionable in a number of areas.
I thought McBeath/ Bartholomay were good but they don't have great speed. Still, their overall performance value is wonderful. They just need more confidence and experience with each other, particularly with Katie being new to pairs.
Juniors:
Baram/ Tioumentsev 54.31
Fleming/ Finster 52.47
Novice:
Olivia Mendoza
Aiden Elswich 23.42
Anna Yau
John Gormley 23.34
The judging to me seems a bit low for the senior pairs here. I know it's early in the season, and the athletes should be stronger as they become more comfortable over the course of the season. Still, I'd love an explanation for some of the scoring, especially from Judge 4 who scored everyone the lowest scores in PCS categories.
I knew C/J should have the highest score on their 3-twist, which is so effortless, and one of the highest and best in the world. All the judges gave 4 to C/J on that element. There should have been some 5s too, but apparently judges are being conservative.
While Liu/O'Shea got a 3, two 2s and two 4s on their 3-twist, I think L/O should probably receive mainly 3s at this point on their 3-twist, and I wouldn't argue with 2s for L/O. I disagree with the last two judges giving 4s for L/O and C/J on 3-twist. There's no question that C/J's 3-twist is better. So if those judges feel L/O deserve 4s, then they should have given C/J 5s.
I point this out as an example of poor judging. What are they looking at? The judging is uneven and mostly inconsistent, particularly when examining the point-by-point breakdowns.
I agree with L/O in first, but the scores seem off in different categories. I agree with C/J having overall better PCS, because they are fast, have excellent SS, and possess a synchronicity and a comfort level with each other that L/O are still developing. I can see the scores close, but C/J had more obvious miscues on their sbs jump and throw. I was surprised to see Jess not land her throw jump with greater confidence. That's not usual for her. Whatever C/J's personal adversity setback, it must have impacted their training. They look like they are still working things through. Good luck to them. They are a quality team.
And it's great to see L/O looking so good as a newly paired team. I would have L/O a bit higher in the the marks, by at least another point. Chelsea still has to work on getting her free leg out of the way on landings. This is such a great program for L/O, and they clearly enjoy skating it.
In general, all the PCS are low in some categories. Some conservative scoring across-the-board, and questionable in a number of areas.
I thought McBeath/ Bartholomay were good but they don't have great speed. Still, their overall performance value is wonderful. They just need more confidence and experience with each other, particularly with Katie being new to pairs.
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I watched the live stream and also the practice before it. Just as an FYI, Jessica had her team USA jacket on during the practice. As far as scoring, I thought the catch on the triple twist for C/J was a little off, still bigger than the others but could explain “only 4s.” Jessica’s triple sal was downgraded, so only got points for a double plus negative GOE. Also, I am not sure how Jessica landed that throw, she was so tilted I thought her side was going to hit first, very impressive save by her! Her spin looked a little labored as well, and usually they have beautiful side by side spins. I thought for a first outing in a long time they looked good and they were clearly thrilled when they finished!
L/O had another good outing. Their SBS jumps were clean, though Chelsea’s was tight on the landing. They also had some two footing on the throw, though I thought it was better than there first competition. The main thing that hurt them was a base on their death spiral. As they get more comfortable with each other, I’m sure they will continue to improve. Both teams have beautiful, innovative lifts. As long as the judging is conservative across all the teams, it’s not really questionable. If they are all being judged by the same standard then even if the scoring is low (or high like at Nationals) it’s fair in terms of placements. I would rather them be harshly judged here then think everything is okay and get a rude awakening under an international panel!
I thought all 3 teams performed well today! What a treat to have all these live streams available. Good luck to all 3 in the long!
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The free skate took place at Glacier Falls. Liu/O'Shea withdrew from free skate. While this isn't unusual, I am very disappointed not to see their fp at GF. It's not unusual for skaters to WD at early summer comps, but I do wonder the reasoning. Maybe they just feel like they've done enough and decided to go home and fine-tune. There is a vid of their fp on YouTube from LA Open, but the feed was messy in the opening moments. Sigh... we'll have to wait awhile to see L/O in performance again.
Nate & Katie had WD from free skate at LA Open a few weeks ago. They skated their The Blower's Daughter fp at GF. It's very lovely, and should be a nice showcase for them this season. I also noticed that Katie/ Nate have a new sp, after having used their sp from last season at LA Open.
Maybe Chelsea/ Danny and their coaches just decided it wasn't necessary for them to compete their fp again so soon. At these small summer comps, it's more about getting programs out there on competition ice. It's not about any intense focus on placements.
Jess/ Brian debuted their new fp. I don't know the name of their music yet. I'm sure someone has identified it already. I couldn't hear it well on the livestream. It sounds like a familiar ballad. It doesn't grab me in the same way as some of their previous music selections, but I enjoyed the choreo.
C/J managed to land first combo jumping pass fairly well, even though slightly shaky and not in unison. The first throw landed beautifully too. The second (single) jumping pass, they both bailed, and a fall on the second throw too.
I wonder whether there's a way to immerse C/J in a reframing program involving jumping reps combined with visualizations and positive affirmations. They def need to gain confidence on the jumps and stop being so slow and anxious going into them. They are way too much in their heads about the jumps. Please figure it out! Think outside the box on this because whatever they are doing isn't working. Tackle this in a different way, please. Find a jump whisperer.
Consult with Paul Wylie, or at the least look at his presentation he's given at corporate conferences (it's on YouTube). Paul brilliantly discusses how he conquered his jumping nerves and ended up winning a surprise silver medal at 1992 Olympics.
Nate & Katie had WD from free skate at LA Open a few weeks ago. They skated their The Blower's Daughter fp at GF. It's very lovely, and should be a nice showcase for them this season. I also noticed that Katie/ Nate have a new sp, after having used their sp from last season at LA Open.
Maybe Chelsea/ Danny and their coaches just decided it wasn't necessary for them to compete their fp again so soon. At these small summer comps, it's more about getting programs out there on competition ice. It's not about any intense focus on placements.
Jess/ Brian debuted their new fp. I don't know the name of their music yet. I'm sure someone has identified it already. I couldn't hear it well on the livestream. It sounds like a familiar ballad. It doesn't grab me in the same way as some of their previous music selections, but I enjoyed the choreo.
C/J managed to land first combo jumping pass fairly well, even though slightly shaky and not in unison. The first throw landed beautifully too. The second (single) jumping pass, they both bailed, and a fall on the second throw too.
I wonder whether there's a way to immerse C/J in a reframing program involving jumping reps combined with visualizations and positive affirmations. They def need to gain confidence on the jumps and stop being so slow and anxious going into them. They are way too much in their heads about the jumps. Please figure it out! Think outside the box on this because whatever they are doing isn't working. Tackle this in a different way, please. Find a jump whisperer.
Consult with Paul Wylie, or at the least look at his presentation he's given at corporate conferences (it's on YouTube). Paul brilliantly discusses how he conquered his jumping nerves and ended up winning a surprise silver medal at 1992 Olympics.
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I was showing my brother-in-law Chelsea and Danny's skates, and in addition to what I love most about them -- their connection, the way their happiness to be skating together shows in emotion, not just in doing elements well --- I realized that another thing that makes them so magical to me is their unison, which is just incredible, considering they've been skating only a few months together. Their movements are perfectly in unison, but also their emotional intent is sublimely in synch. I have fallen in love with this pair!
Thank you to everyone for your reports on the Glacier Falls event. Very interesting. Wish there were videos, but we can hope for more soon.
Thank you to everyone for your reports on the Glacier Falls event. Very interesting. Wish there were videos, but we can hope for more soon.
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I thought I would bring this very interesting interview of Alexa and Brandon to the newer US Pairs thread. Thanks, Tatiana, for posting it.
www.isu.org
Most exciting news to me is that Shae-Lynne Bourne has choreographed their SP to House of the Rising Sun. This sounds dramatic and edgy and I can already imagine Alexa and Brandon, how they will be skating to it!
Their other musical choice, "Fix Me" (ETA: correction, it's "Fix You") for the FS, seems strange. Well, I have a disconnect with it. I don't see it. I have to admit that I wasn't completely sold on their "Fall on Me" last year, until they explained in an interview why they chose it. So maybe the same thing will happen with this FS, although I'd wish for a musical choice they didn't have to explain. And it's possible I'll feel differently the first time I see it skated. They will debut it at Cranberry, according to the article.
In the spotlight: Alexa Knierim & Brandon Frazier (USA) successfully opened a new chapter - International Skating Union
In the spotlight: Alexa Knierim & Brandon Frazier (USA) successfully opened a new chapter. The end of one chapter is the beginning of a new one. This is certainly true for U.S. Pair Skaters Alexa Knierim and Brandon Frazier, who started their career as a team a little over a year ago after their...
www.isu.org
Most exciting news to me is that Shae-Lynne Bourne has choreographed their SP to House of the Rising Sun. This sounds dramatic and edgy and I can already imagine Alexa and Brandon, how they will be skating to it!
Their other musical choice, "Fix Me" (ETA: correction, it's "Fix You") for the FS, seems strange. Well, I have a disconnect with it. I don't see it. I have to admit that I wasn't completely sold on their "Fall on Me" last year, until they explained in an interview why they chose it. So maybe the same thing will happen with this FS, although I'd wish for a musical choice they didn't have to explain. And it's possible I'll feel differently the first time I see it skated. They will debut it at Cranberry, according to the article.
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^^ Thanks to you @skylark for posting the article link here. The interview was initially posted in last season's U.S. Pairs thread, apparently by mistake.
I would have thought 'Fix Me' for their sp and 'House of the Rising Sun' for their free skate, but what do I know?! LOL
So I checked, and here are YouTube links to K/F's music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncd_cMZnC3I Fix Me (I guess this is it)
Seemingly, the main lyric refrain spoke to both of them
I'm fine in the fire
I feed on the friction
I'm right where I should be
Don't try to fix me
Uh, nope. I just read the article. K/F are skating to Coldplay's 'Fix You.'
I still like those 'Fix Me' lyrics for K/F, and for that matter for all U.S. Pairs teams. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM Now this makes sense as a free program and the other selection as a sp. Whew!
For K/F's sp selection, 'House of the Rising Sun' has been covered by many different artists, and K/F haven't said which version they are using AFAIK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hUB04J6XXo The Animals (the original rock creation inspired by an Appalachian folk song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6EBgBTs7yg Five Finger Death Punch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j265DpY423c Heavy Young Heathens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUIsFUfxgqw Sinead O'Connor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD80eZ6Gxz0 Joan Baez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3rJz4jSQQ Nina Simone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_caKDfoyU Bob Dylan (the legend can croon, indeed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S9KipZ5F_g The House on Cliff (updated rock cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RSo35cb2kw Pink Floyd, as only they can rock!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEx9n7nECtY Subtitulada
Too many more versions to cite, including covers by The White Buffalo, and by a singer named Charlotte Summers... Plus a house full of instrumental and acoustic renditions.
en.wikipedia.org
I thought I would bring this very interesting interview of Alexa and Brandon to the newer US Pairs thread. Thanks, Tatiana, for posting it.
In the spotlight: Alexa Knierim & Brandon Frazier (USA) successfully opened a new chapter - International Skating Union
In the spotlight: Alexa Knierim & Brandon Frazier (USA) successfully opened a new chapter. The end of one chapter is the beginning of a new one. This is certainly true for U.S. Pair Skaters Alexa Knierim and Brandon Frazier, who started their career as a team a little over a year ago after their...
Most exciting news to me is that Shae-Lynne Bourne has choreographed their SP to House of the Rising Sun. This sounds dramatic and edgy and I can already imagine Alexa and Brandon, how they will be skating to it!
Their other musical choice, "Fix Me" for the FS, seems strange. Well, I have a disconnect with it. I don't see it. I have to admit that I wasn't completely sold on their "Fall on Me" last year, until they explained in an interview why they chose it. So maybe the same thing will happen with this FS, although I'd wish for a musical choice they didn't have to explain. And it's possible I'll feel differently the first time I see it skated. They will debut it at Cranberry, according to the article.
I would have thought 'Fix Me' for their sp and 'House of the Rising Sun' for their free skate, but what do I know?! LOL
So I checked, and here are YouTube links to K/F's music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncd_cMZnC3I Fix Me (I guess this is it)
Seemingly, the main lyric refrain spoke to both of them
I'm fine in the fire
I feed on the friction
I'm right where I should be
Don't try to fix me
Uh, nope. I just read the article. K/F are skating to Coldplay's 'Fix You.'
I still like those 'Fix Me' lyrics for K/F, and for that matter for all U.S. Pairs teams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM Now this makes sense as a free program and the other selection as a sp. Whew!
For K/F's sp selection, 'House of the Rising Sun' has been covered by many different artists, and K/F haven't said which version they are using AFAIK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hUB04J6XXo The Animals (the original rock creation inspired by an Appalachian folk song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6EBgBTs7yg Five Finger Death Punch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j265DpY423c Heavy Young Heathens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUIsFUfxgqw Sinead O'Connor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD80eZ6Gxz0 Joan Baez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3rJz4jSQQ Nina Simone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_caKDfoyU Bob Dylan (the legend can croon, indeed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S9KipZ5F_g The House on Cliff (updated rock cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RSo35cb2kw Pink Floyd, as only they can rock!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEx9n7nECtY Subtitulada
Too many more versions to cite, including covers by The White Buffalo, and by a singer named Charlotte Summers... Plus a house full of instrumental and acoustic renditions.
The House of the Rising Sun - Wikipedia
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Thanks for the correction. I've corrected my post. I was thinking "Fix You" and even hearing the music in my head ... so that's what I thought I meant. Thought I was talking about.^^ Thanks to you @skylark for posting the article link here. The interview was initially posted in last season's U.S. Pairs thread, apparently by mistake.
I would have thought 'Fix Me' for their sp and 'House of the Rising Sun' for their free skate, but what do I know?! LOL
So I checked, and here are YouTube links to K/F's music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncd_cMZnC3I Fix Me (I guess this is it)
Seemingly, the main lyric refrain spoke to both of them
I'm fine in the fire
I feed on the friction
I'm right where I should be
Don't try to fix me
Uh, nope. I just read the article. K/F are skating to Coldplay's 'Fix You.'
But -- I really like the lyrics to "Fix Me" that you quoted, so much better! (I guess maybe I should plead that it was some kind of unconscious truth coming out of my mouth ... er ... fingers at the computer.) And right -- those lyrics fit for all US Pairs Teams.
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I agree with the majority of your points and your observations @SkateTM0102. I totally agree that it is a bonus to just be able to see C/J competing on the ice altogether!
OTOH, I don't see where C/J made a mistake on their 3-twist. It looks fine in both programs from the far away camera angle, with Brian's back to the camera too, which makes it difficult to judge what the catches and touch downs look like. From where I sit, the catches look fine. Maybe the touch down was slightly off center in the sp. And yet, the judges gave all 4s for the sp 3-twist, and for the fp, two of the judges gave 3s, the rest 4s. As usual, go figure with the judging. I also feel that the two 7.75s for skating skills (in fp) are way off. C/J deserve nothing less than 8.50 to 9.25 or higher for skating skills. The judges shouldn't be taking off anything in the skating skills category because of C/J's issues on the second sbs jump and the second throw.As fans, many of us generally feel placements are accurate, even when we have issues with the scores. I tend to think as fans that we are sometimes lulled into making excuses for the inconsistent judging, especially on PCS! Unfortunately, politics, rep, skate order, subjectivity, error in judgement, and conflicts of interest are always involved in the judging.
I don't mean to be harsh on C/J by expressing some disappointment and offering suggestions for them to try something different, and to work harder on the mental aspects. I don't know what they are doing, so in the absence of knowing, I'm a bit frustrated for them. They are such a good pairing with so much talent. As I said, it just seems like they have missed a bit of training time for whatever personal reasons. If they'd been training hard and working on jumps all this time, I would expect to see them a bit sharper and more confident. What I see is more of the same nervous hesitation going into their jumps. They have to get to the point where they can perform the jumps and throws with more ease and confidence, like clockwork. Looking back, they seemed to build in confidence during 2019 - 2020 because they had a lot of early competitions, which allowed them to tweak jump layouts and to get out the kinks. They didn't have a lot of pressure on them to succeed that season either. They ended up surprising many fans with their talent and their magical chemistry. I wish C/J could remember the way it felt to skate their clean, amazing fp at 2020 U.S. Nationals.
Of course, it is bad luck that they missed Worlds in 2020, and then for whatever personal reasons had to pull out of Worlds 2021, which has interrupted their momentum. They are slightly younger than K/F and LeDuc, with Ash C-G being the youngest of this top group. So, hopefully C/J will be working it, succeeding in their goals, making hay and making wonderful memories for at least another four years.
At this point, I'm thinking K/F and C-G/LD are likely on point to make Worlds and Olympics next year, but who knows. Liu/O'Shea are a very good team, and the young'uns/ young guns Lu/Mitrofanov are working hard to improve their presentation skills, which is partly about maturing a bit and projecting more, and also having the right material.
I look forward to seeing L/O's sp at a major competition where the sound is better. Jordan Cowan's OIP clip of the last section of L/O's sp has really spoiled us. For me, certainly, because we are on the ice with them and experiencing their joy and effervescence. It just isn't the same with the far away and oddly placed camera angles at LA Open and Glacier Falls. I had hoped to see their fp again with better views. The stream from Glacier Falls was at least sharper than at LA Open. But L/O withdrew from the fp at GF, probably because they'd done enough and decided to go back to their home rink and further fine-tune.
Hopefully, Chelsea will figure out a way to keep her free leg from touching the ice on her throw landings. She certainly looks to be determined about pushing through to be more consistent on the jumps. Danny is a strong jumper, and clearly a talented skater/ wonderful pairs guy all around.
I didn't get to see C/J's fp more than once on the Glacier Falls stream. Did anyone who saw it detect what music they are skating to for their fp?
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I would like to see McBeath/Bartholomay get the TBD, if C/J aren't ready or can't compete for some reason internationally.
Albeit that M/B and C/H are considered to be neck-and-neck, with C/H getting the edge at 2021 U.S. Nationals. I also think the edge given to C/H at Nationals may have been a bit of politics with C/H and their coaches (along with Lu/Mitrofanov, et al) now ensconced at the prestigious and venerable Skating Club of Boston's new state-of-the-art location. C/H are younger as well (23/24) vs M/B (27/32). But that's all the more reason for M/B to be given an opportunity now to showcase what they can do with two lovely programs this season. Skaters need to compete in order to improve.
I know the opposing argument would be that C/H need to gain more international competitive experience. If not now, when? That's the conundrum of the sport's antiquated, limited and limiting competition structure.
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So I noticed it's mentioned in the K/F interview that they are using two different versions of 'Fix You,' the original by Chris Martin of Coldplay, and a Karl Hugo composed version by Fearless Soul -- hear below:
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A very touching rendition. I wonder how it will be edited into a seamless whole with Martin's original.
When you're too in love to
Let it go
But if you never try
You'll never know
What you're worth ...
These are more apt lyrics for U.S. pairs
The ISU 'Spotlight' feature with Alexa/Brandon that's also embedded in the article:
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They speak in greater detail about the challenging yet fortuitous timing of events that led to their partnership.
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Still wondering what Calalang and Johnson's FP music is. If it was posted already I must have missed it.
ETA: Just saw the free program. I think their music is very interesting - certainly sending a message. I thought they looked a little rusty although still very smooth. I think these two have good chemistry. Jessica has a very nice style about her and Brian is a beast with his strength.
ETA: Just saw the free program. I think their music is very interesting - certainly sending a message. I thought they looked a little rusty although still very smooth. I think these two have good chemistry. Jessica has a very nice style about her and Brian is a beast with his strength.
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Calalang/Johnson's FS music is John Legend's Never Break. I googled the lyrics heard on Glacier Falls' free skate video, posted today by TSL:
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Legend's video:
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Certainly, a heartfelt song beautifully sung by Legend. And I think we all know the tough strife that Legend and his wife, Chrissy Teigen, suffered with miscarriages, and then the loss of a premature fetus which Chrissy had complications in bringing safely to full term.
Though I'm not that endeared to the generic ballad sound of this music, the lyrics and Legend's strong vocal crooning are probably key to why C/J chose this for their FS. I understand the sentiment found in the lyrics and in the deep emotions expressed by Legend:
We got a good thing babe
Whenever life is hard
We won't lose our way
Because we both know who we are
Who knows about tomorrow
We don't know what's in the stars
I just know I'll always follow the light in your heart
I'm not worried about us
And I've never been
We both know how the story ends
We will never break
We will never break
...
Very expressive lyrics, which again seems to indicate that something very personal occurred, which likely caused C/J to lose training time.
Kudos to them for the wonderful support and caring they demonstrate and have for each other. From articles I've read, they have a strictly professional relationship, but are also good friends who have trained together for many years. Their pairs partnership is magical. I wish them so many more happy memories on their journey.
It's not about the medals, it's about the moments and the steps along the way, through good times and bad.
For a deeper understanding of what a momentous and loyal pairs partnership is all about, read Tai/ Randy's memoir, Forever Two As One (written with Martha Lowder Kimball).
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C/J's sp from Glacier Falls has also been posted:
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Legend's video:
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Certainly, a heartfelt song beautifully sung by Legend. And I think we all know the tough strife that Legend and his wife, Chrissy Teigen, suffered with miscarriages, and then the loss of a premature fetus which Chrissy had complications in bringing safely to full term.
Though I'm not that endeared to the generic ballad sound of this music, the lyrics and Legend's strong vocal crooning are probably key to why C/J chose this for their FS. I understand the sentiment found in the lyrics and in the deep emotions expressed by Legend:
We got a good thing babe
Whenever life is hard
We won't lose our way
Because we both know who we are
Who knows about tomorrow
We don't know what's in the stars
I just know I'll always follow the light in your heart
I'm not worried about us
And I've never been
We both know how the story ends
We will never break
We will never break
...
Very expressive lyrics, which again seems to indicate that something very personal occurred, which likely caused C/J to lose training time.
Kudos to them for the wonderful support and caring they demonstrate and have for each other. From articles I've read, they have a strictly professional relationship, but are also good friends who have trained together for many years. Their pairs partnership is magical. I wish them so many more happy memories on their journey.
It's not about the medals, it's about the moments and the steps along the way, through good times and bad.
For a deeper understanding of what a momentous and loyal pairs partnership is all about, read Tai/ Randy's memoir, Forever Two As One (written with Martha Lowder Kimball).
ETA:
C/J's sp from Glacier Falls has also been posted:
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I really need to state my wishes boldly in black and white more often! LOL. Here is Chelsea and Danny's SP from Glacier Falls, which is showing so much promise and excitement. (not forgetting that they elected not to perform their FS there.) I think Chelsea is showing stronger with the jumps in each outing, and she's really working to get the throw landings. That can be such a challenge, to match techniques and power balance with a new partner. It seems to me that the man's throw has to have such a delicate balance to it: forceful enough to get her high and far, and gentle enough that she can land it. Here's Lover.Wish there were videos, but we can hope for more soon.
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I wish that TSL would post Katie and Nate's skates, too. Are you listening, Fairy Godmother?
ETA: I just noticed, looking at the thumbnail for Chelsea/Danny's SP, how beautiful their lines are. They have exactly the same knee bend, in spite of the difference in their sizes. And when they skate, they've got the same rhythm in them. So lovely, it makes the simplest moves spellbinding.
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Very much a Beauty and the Beast look about them! Jessica's costumes are always so beautiful, and the colors are perfectly chosen for her. There's something ethereal about her and her skating.
I agree that the FS music is sending a message. I thought they were really struggling to reach for their ease and quality from the past year or two. It's painful to watch. Even their smiles were a struggle, it seemed to me. But with their participation here (and maybe at other places) they're sending a strong message to their fans, that they're committed to working together through whatever it is or was. I think that's great. And it's a fact that skaters are often starting from scratch at this time of year. Jessica and Brian's history is that they use the entire season to refine and improve and show the appropriate emotion in their programs. It's really going to be something to watch them, and to see if they can recover their touch of magic.
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USFS has added Calalang/Johnson's names back to the ISP list.
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Yay!!!!!!!!!!!USFS has added Calalang/Johnson's names back to the ISP list.
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