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She did. She didn't get worlds minimums though... but even if she did, it may not be necessary this year... one spot and a few skaters ahead of her in the "line-up"
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I still don’t know that anyone other than Maddie has the minimums for worlds. Kaiya has yet to get 32 for the SP I believe.
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Nothing to apologise for, it's easy to be confused with all of the different rules on if a competition is eligible for minimums, best scores or WS points.
A general guide on if a competition counts for minimums:
Is it part of the official ISU calendar? If no, then no.
If yes, are there at least two skaters representing two different countries in the respective discipline? If yes, then it counts for minimums.
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No idea how this all works but those not on the National team probably do not get much help from Skate Canada right? Probably from their provincial federation?
I haven't yet digested the lack of entries in singles at Autumn Classic... but if skaters have to pay their own fees to attend these small events, is Skate Canada not letting them register at ACI? See what I mean?? Sara-Maude, to go back to her, would definitely benefit from another competition before Skate Canada...and that would not be cost prohibitive for her at all as she trains in Montreal, unless they are sending her somewhere else????
I am just really confused with all of this. I wish someone would give us an explanation so I could take the pill and swallow it.
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Not sure about National Team members, but for others, including NextGen members needed to pay for the trip from their own pockets. I know some NextGen members were fundraising on their social media to support their trips to Cranberry. Also SC posted JGP Bangkok on news page as the kickoff event of the season. I assume summer competitions would not be considered as SC assignments.
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Figure skating costs = why my parents decided I would do a sport where equipment was a speedo and some goggles. Joking aside, elite swimming is not cheap either... but yeah.
I feel more of our Canadian tax money should be allotted to sport. Healthy human beings cost less down the road in healthcare and all sort of other social issues like dropping out from school and even crime. But, I am no Justin.
Could that be Roman's reason to WD? Or was that another comp? (point still stands)
surely as handsome
Delurking because I'm trying to figure out Skate Canada's logic in all of this for singles and I have spent way too much time thinking about this.It almost looks like the sent 1 man and 1 woman because they "had to"like oh, we're hosting this? Then we have to.. sry.
srsly, what's this?
Could skaters not show up on SC's desk and say "hey, I'm ready, I want to be there"?
Or is there a major plan behind all of this where they avoid to have international competition between Canadians?(in singles)
From the 2023-24 International Selection Guidelines, for Challengers:
- All skaters need to complete a full summer competition (no withdrawing after the short), unless a competitive plan has been agreed upon with the High Performance Director
- Since Deanna/Max and Marjorie/Zach were assigned to ACI, I guess they have that competitive plan
- Stephen and Roman were the ones who withdrew after the short for their summer competitions last season, so unlikely they'd get an exemption
- Preference will be given to skaters assigned to a Grand Prix
- Requirements may be waived due to extenuating circumstances
- Score requirements
- Men: 199 Int/213 Domestic
- Women: 155 Int/166 Domestic
Men: Conrad, Wesley (ACI)
Women: Kaiya (ACI), Sara-Maude
That leaves Maddie, Stephen and Roman who haven't done their full competition yet, and I don't think Maddie is the one they'd be worried about. Maddie and Stephen have Skate Ontario this week, no idea what Roman's doing. I hope his withdrawal from Cranberry Cup was something like his boots broke and nothing more serious than that.
I'm guessing that Nebelhorn will be Conrad and Maddie. Canada won the Fritz-Geiger Memorial Trophy there last season due to being the best performing country, so I think they'll want to send stronger skaters there to repeat that. That's the one I'm most interested in seeing for Canada's entries.
For the non-GP skaters, it looks like one of the later Challengers like Warsaw is where Skate Canada prefers to send them. I think they'll send skaters who meet the requirements like Fiona, Matthew Newnham, Aleksa Rakic and Justine Miclette to that one. The only skater I can think of who got an early Challenger but wasn't on the GP was Lia since she was sent to Finlandia as a senior while competing on the JGP.
That doesn't explain why they couldn't have sent more singles to ACI. Aleksa will be on his fourth summer competition this week, I was hoping that he'd get ACI so that he could go relax on a beach somewhere, he's earned a Challenger at this point. If he had to cover his costs for Glacier Falls and Cranberry Cup, that's got to add up.
Justine had a good free skate at CQE, they need to capitalize on it since she only needs her free skate TES for Worlds. Going into this season, Maddie is the only woman who has the full TES since Gabby didn't meet the free TES last season. They need to be sending out everyone who could possibly get them rather than hoping that nothing happens to Maddie.
It also doesn't explain why most skaters get one Challenger and that's it. If they don't have a GP assignment, they're not going to improve their season's best and not improve their chances of getting a non-host GP assignment. They get up to three Challengers per skater, they have ACI this year. Whatever strategy worked in the past isn't working for singles.
From my experience Skate Canada does not provide much funding outside of the national team. Even on the JGP circuit they receive a minimal grant and travel expenses flight/hotel. Parents are still on the hook for coaching expenses/travel which basically the grant helps with and pretty minimal support if any from the provinces. Also if a team wins nationals and does not stay together they lose the grant money for winning. It's an expensive commitment and I can't wrap my head around why they didn't allocate more singles for ACI. Such a missed mark for an opportunity to gain experience. There really does need to be a higher level of financial support all across the board in my opinion.
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thank you for your post ! Please delurk often ! I agree it doesn't still explain everything but seeing the guidelines is helpful. At the same time, they are pretty much doing whatever they are doing because Caidence and Raine are going to ACI and I don't recall seeing them at all so far... their event is this weekend... so I guess "they had a plan"
but yeah. Considering what @Talder is confirming in the post just above, that pretty much, it's super expensive, more skaters should be given a "at home" opportunity.Thank youthank you for your post ! Please delurk often ! I agree it doesn't still explain everything but seeing the guidelines is helpful. At the same time, they are pretty much doing whatever they are doing because Caidence and Raine are going to ACI and I don't recall seeing them at all so far... their event is this weekend... so I guess "they had a plan"
For Caidence and Raine, they're not one of the teams that has a bye to Nationals, they'll have to do the domestic competitions. The Ontario August competition scores count towards qualifying for Ontario sectionals, but they're not competing for Ontario. Not sure what the Saskatchewan procedure since I can't find it, but they do have to meet the Challenge Minimum Score before Skate Canada Challenge, so this will count towards it. In their case, and Proft/Nadeau too (announced before they competed last weekend), their plan means having to do the domestic competitions to get to Challenge/Nationals. So Skate Canada was probably not worried about those teams only competing the short. But then that brings in Brooke and Ben who withdrew fully and have a bye to Nationals, so they have a plan too? The requirement isn't helping if too many people get to have plans.
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Nice feature on Eric Radford on the ISU website:
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Life after competing Eric Radford (CAN): Appreciating what you have accomplished - International Skating Union
The moment comes sooner or later for every athlete – the moment to end the competitive career. It is not an easy step as you have change your lifestyle and find new goals. Canadian Pair Skater Eric Radford, 38, did it even twice.
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For some reason that link didn't work for me. But this plus clicking "read more" did.Nice feature on Eric Radford on the ISU website:
Life after competing Eric Radford (CAN): Appreciating what you have accomplished - International Skating Union
The moment comes sooner or later for every athlete – the moment to end the competitive career. It is not an easy step as you have change your lifestyle and find new goals. Canadian Pair Skater Eric Radford, 38, did it even twice.
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Much appreciated! I also got a blank screen for the link (well, pale mint with blade lines on it but if it was ice, it was empty) and just put it down to my ineptness with computers. But your "this" worked.
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At least three weeks ago it all seemed fine
(I like his humor)
this is a nice picture. So much talent and teeth !
I clicked on Lagha's instagram... lots of pictures with smiles... so yeah.. I guess he smiles more than what people say
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