2023-24 Japan Nationals - Women's FS

[cohkaix]

Final competition results:

FS results
Final results
Protocol

Pl.				SP	FS	Final results
1	坂 本 花 織	Kaori Sakamoto	Sysmex	78.78	154.34	233.12
2	千 葉 百 音	Mone Chiba	Kinoshita Academy	68.02	141.25	209.27
3	島 田 麻 央	Mao Shimada	Kinoshita Academy	65.23	136.95	202.18
4	上 薗 恋 奈	Rena Uezono	LYS	66.22	134.47	200.69
5	三 原 舞 依	Mai Mihara	Sysmex	67.70	131.86	199.56
6	渡 辺 倫 果	Rinka Watanabe	TOKIOINKARAMI HOSEI Univ.	63.66	131.22	194.88
7	吉 田 陽 菜	Hana Yoshida	Kinoshita Academy	62.73	131.49	194.22
8	山 下 真 瑚	Mako Yamashita	Chukyo U	69.92	122.23	192.15
9	青 木 祐 奈	Yuna Aoki	Nihon U	61.44	130.57	192.01
10	住 吉 りをん	Rion Sumiyoshi	OrientalBio Meiji Univ.	56.70	128.52	185.22
11	江 川 マリア	Maria Egawa	Meiji U	58.55	126.10	184.65
12	樋 口 新 葉	Wakaba Higuchi	NOEVIR	57.97	122.70	180.67
13	河 辺 愛 菜	Mana Kawabe	Chukyo U	67.25	112.46	179.71
14	横 井 きな結	Kinayu Yokoi	Chukyo U	62.49	113.31	175.8
15	柴 山 歩	Ayumi Shibayama	Kinoshita Academy	57.43	118.29	175.72
16	三 宅 咲 綺	Saki Miyake	Okayama U	58.23	116.83	175.06
17	松 生 理 乃	Rino Matsuike	Chukyo U	58.97	115.37	174.34
18	清 水 咲 衣	Sae Shimizu	Kinoshita Academy	56.24	112.88	169.12
19	村 上 遥 奈	Haruna Murakami	Kinoshita Academy	53.13	105.73	158.86
20	鈴 木 な つ	Natsu Suzuki	Kansai U SC	56.00	99.67	155.67
21	大 庭 雅	Miyabi Oba	Tokai Tokyo FH	50.80	99.23	150.03
22	白 岩 優 奈	Yuna Shiraiwa	Kansai U SC	53.42	95.21	148.63
23	髙 木 謠	Yo Takagi	Tokyo Joshi Gakuin	55.09	93.30	148.39
24	石 田 真 綾	Maaya Ishida	St.Paul's U	54.12	88.76	142.88
25	櫛 田 育 良	Ikura Kushida	Kinoshita Academy	50.20	FNR	--
26	三 枝 知香子	Chikako Saigusa	Nihon U	50.19	FNR	--
27	荒 木 菜 那	Nana Araki	Chukyo U	46.45	FNR	--
28	本 田 真 凜	Marin Honda	JAL	44.42	FNR	--

 

[Sai Bon]

I'm about to pass out, goodnight and Merry Christmas, everyone!

 

[skim1001]

Now time for the Japanese to eat some kentucky fried chicken. Happy holidays y'all

 

[Ichatdelune]

Okay that was fun, now off to watch the RusNats I missed because I spent the Saturday asleep. And folks in two weeks KNats are going to take place and most likely going to be streamed, spread the love for our girls (and lads) as well. I'm going to be at the rink of course but I'll be posting like mad on the thread

 

[Joekaz]

Yamashita got hosed. She should have been ahead of Mihara. Her jumps were cleaner than Mai's for sure. And her fall was on her 2nd 3/3 combo. No one else even tried that. JSF just didn't want to have to bump her from WC selection from podium. Probably will send Yoshida since she was 2nd at GPF.

 

[fehervari]

Kaori is Sakamoto. unique. I am very happy for Mone Chiba, she is natural, simple elegance. on the other hand... shouldn't manufacture heroines. this is not a function of either the JSF or the ISU. Mao Shimada is a good skater, but not yet a good figure skater. this weekend... i think top5 would be flattering for her too

 

[Dreamer57]

I think I've figured out the Women's WC and 4CC spots (unless the fed decides to go back to sending the same team to both events)
But the 3rd JWC spot is still

I'd send Mai to worlds and Rinka to 4CC. Hana to junior worlds with Mao and Rena.
Kaori and Mone to both?

Mako to Bavarian Open as she doesn't meet the criteria for the championships. With Yuna and Rion if JSF is in the Christmas spirit!

 

[cohkaix]

Again, filling in the blanks of the selection Table (WC, Women):

Sr. women 3 spots	Criteria	Candidates (in order of ranking)
1st spot	1. Nationals-champion	Kaori	--	--	--	--
2nd spot	2-A. Nationals - 2nd & 3rd placements	Mone	Mai	--	--	--
2nd	2-B. GPF: top 2 placements	Kaori	Hana	*Rion	--	--
2nd	2-C. Top 3 by Seasonal Best (ISU)	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rino	--
3rd spot	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	?	?	--	--	--
3rd	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	Kaori	Hana	*Rion	--	--
3rd	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rino	--
3rd	3-B. Top 3 by World Standing (ISU)	Kaori	Mai	Rinka	*Hana	*Mone
3rd	3-C. Top 3 by SWR (ISU)	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rion	*Mone
3rd	3-D. Top 3 of average scores (from selected international/domestic competitions)	Kaori	Hana	Rion	*Rinka	*Yuna

Other than Kaori, I'm actually less certain about 2nd and 3rd spot...

 

[YuBluByMe]

Yamashita got hosed. She should have been ahead of Mihara. Her jumps were cleaner than Mai's for sure. And her fall was on her 2nd 3/3 combo. No one else even tried that. JSF just didn't want to have to bump her from WC selection from podium. Probably will send Yoshida since she was 2nd at GPF.

Agreed, but Yamashita wasn’t going to be selected to Worlds even had she made the podium. She hasn’t had an international in years and doesn’t even have TES. JFed should send her to a late season challenger.

Also, Mihara shouldn’t be going to Worlds, either. Had she made the podium, sure. But she didn’t and she was only considered in the first place because of her World standing. Watanabe and Yoshida should be considered before her. Chiba can also be considered because of her Silver Medal, but JFed might actually send her to Junior Worlds since the third spot is really up in the air.

I’ll send Sakamoto, Chiba, and Yoshida to Worlds. Mihara, Watanabe, and Yoshida to 4CC. Shimada, Uezono, and Shibayama to Junior Worlds.

 

[Crowdproud]

I think I've figured out the Women's WC and 4CC spots (unless the fed decides to go back to sending the same team to both events)
But the 3rd JWC spot is still

What is your prediction?

 

[Demandred]

I am really happy for Mone Chiba, she was fantastic.

Kaori with another gorgeous skate, her performance of this program has really improved over the season.

I was just thinking how stingy the judges were with their PCs marks since nobody was getting more than 66 (which is less than 8.5 in the components) and then they gave Kaori 77.06.

I hope Hana Yoshida makes the World Championship team. How likely is this right now?

 

[Joekaz]

Agreed, but Yamashita wasn’t going to be selected to Worlds even had she made the podium. She hasn’t had an international in years and doesn’t even have TES. JFed should send her to a late season challenger.

Also, Mihara shouldn’t be going to Worlds, either. Had she made the podium, sure. But she didn’t and she was only considered in the first place because of her World standing. Watanabe and Yoshida should be considered before her. Chiba can also be considered because of her Silver Medal, but JFed might actually send her to Junior Worlds since the third spot is really up in the air.

I’ll send Sakamoto, Chiba, and Yoshida to Worlds. Mihara, Watanabe, and Yoshida to 4CC. Shimada, Uezono, and Shibayama to Junior Worlds.

I agree. But my point was that in this competition Mako deserved to be ahead of Mihara, probably in 3rd. JSF should try honesty for a change and explain it just like you did instead of manipulating the scores to make it easier for them. That's what the criteria exist for.

 

[Joekaz]

I am really happy for Mone Chiba, she was fantastic.

Kaori with another gorgeous skate, her performance of this program has really improved over the season.

I was just thinking how stingy the judges were with their PCs marks since nobody was getting more than 66 (which is less than 8.5 in the components) and then they gave Kaori 77.06.

I hope Hana Yoshida makes the World Championship team. How likely is this right now?

High. In my opinion.

 

[triplelutzzzzz]

wow i fall asleep and miss all the action
anyways, lol, congrats to Kaori, Mone, and Mao! see y'all tomorrow at the Gala!!

 

[yume]

Again, filling in the blanks of the selection Table (WC, Women):

Sr. women 3 spots	Criteria	Candidates (in order of ranking)
1st spot	1. Nationals-champion	Kaori	--	--	--	--
2nd spot	2-A. Nationals - 2nd & 3rd placements	Mone	Mai	--	--	--
2nd	2-B. GPF: top 2 placements	Kaori	Hana	*Rion	--	--
2nd	2-C. Top 3 by Seasonal Best (ISU)	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rino	--
3rd spot	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	?	?	--	--	--
3rd	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	Kaori	Hana	*Rion	--	--
3rd	3-A. Skater(s) left out from 2nd spot selection	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rino	--
3rd	3-B. Top 3 by World Standing (ISU)	Kaori	Mai	Rinka	*Hana	*Mone
3rd	3-C. Top 3 by SWR (ISU)	Kaori	Hana	Rinka	*Rion	*Mone
3rd	3-D. Top 3 of average scores (from selected international/domestic competitions)	Kaori	Hana	Rion	*Rinka	*Yuna

Other than Kaori, I'm actually less certain about 2nd and 3rd spot...

Logically the team should be Kaori-Mone-Hana. But i wouldn't be surprised if Mai take the 3rd spot. Either way, i would be ok since Mone, Hana and Mai are among my favourites.
I would be surprised though if Hana isn't in WC team and not sent to 4CC, but Rinka get 4CC instead. Which is possible since JSF likes to do my faves dirty.

 

[Dawn825]

They better send Hana to worlds. She medaled at the GPF!

 

[Dreamer57]

Wakaba is so amber glenn coded

Amber usually has 1 clean program. With Wakaba we get both programs with mistakes
She's wonderful to watch when she skates clean

 

[tsuyoboogie]

Links to Women's FS video
Videos are not high quality but can be increased up to 720p by clicking on the settings gear
Please let me know if there are any serious problems with the videos or links

All performances are taken from the FOD livestream (no commentary)

Warmup Group 1
1. Miyabi Oba
2. Haruna Murakami - 2023 Jr Nat’l 6th
3. Yuna Shiraiwa
4. Maaya Ishida
5. Yo Takagi - 2023 Jr Nat’l 4th
6. Natsu Suzuki

Warmup Group 2
7. Sae Shimizu
8. Rion Sumiyoshi
9. Ayumi Shibayama - 2023 Jr Nat’l 5th
10. Wakaba Higuchi
11. Saki Miyake
12. Maria Egawa

Warmup Group 3
13. Rino Matsuike
14. Yuna Aoki
15. Kinayu Yokoi - 2023 Jr Nat’l 8th
16. Hana Yoshida
17. Rinka Watanabe

18. Mao Shimada - 2023 Jr Nat’l Champion <--Link fixed
Warmup Group 4
19. Rena Uezono - 2023 Jr Nat’l 3rd
20. Mana Kawabe
21. Mai Mihara
22. Mone Chiba
23. Mako Yamashita
24. Kaori Sakamoto

 

[Yunakimfan17]

Links to Women's FS video
Videos are not high quality but can be increased up to 720p by clicking on the settings gear
Please let me know if there are any serious problems with the videos or links

All performances are taken from the FOD livestream (no commentary)

Warmup Group 1
1. Miyabi Oba
2. Haruna Murakami - 2023 Jr Nat’l 6th
3. Yuna Shiraiwa
4. Maaya Ishida
5. Yo Takagi - 2023 Jr Nat’l 4th
6. Natsu Suzuki

Warmup Group 2
7. Sae Shimizu
8. Rion Sumiyoshi
9. Ayumi Shibayama - 2023 Jr Nat’l 5th
10. Wakaba Higuchi
11. Saki Miyake
12. Maria Egawa

Warmup Group 3
13. Rino Matsuike
14. Yuna Aoki
15. Kinayu Yokoi - 2023 Jr Nat’l 8th
16. Hana Yoshida
17. Rinka Watanabe
18. Mao Shimada - 2023 Jr Nat’l Champion

Warmup Group 4
19. Rena Uezono - 2023 Jr Nat’l 3rd
20. Mana Kawabe
21. Mai Mihara
22. Mone Chiba
23. Mako Yamashita
24. Kaori Sakamoto

Thank you so much for doing this. I noticed you have linked to Mana instead of Mao for 18. Consequently there are two mp4 files for Mana and nothing for Mao.

 

[Joekaz]

Mone Chiba was fantastic in her LP. Nearly flawless, yet despite having a technically more difficult program, is outscored by 13 points by Kaori. This is the kind of ridiculousness that makes skating a farce as a sport. I realize the whole Sakamoto overscoring in GOE and PCS was the JSF way to have her be competitive with Rika's 3As and quads, but Kihira isn't here right now. Can't we stop this charade and have some somewhat fair competition for a change?