2023-24 Russian Women's Figure Skating
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Some new information about Vasilevsky's skaters.
Rubtsova had a back surgery. She is recovering and has already returned to ice. I don't know the details, but since she's skating, I think there's a chance she'll be invited to JNats.
Zinina was on the preliminary list for Moscow Championships but she has already withdrawn. No info about her other than she had periostitis. I don't think she'll be at Senior Nationals either. Because the lists should appear somewhere during the Moscow Championships, and she still can't compete.
Rubtsova had a back surgery. She is recovering and has already returned to ice. I don't know the details, but since she's skating, I think there's a chance she'll be invited to JNats.
Zinina was on the preliminary list for Moscow Championships but she has already withdrawn. No info about her other than she had periostitis. I don't think she'll be at Senior Nationals either. Because the lists should appear somewhere during the Moscow Championships, and she still can't compete.
I think Zinina's career at this critical is almost certainly over with such a long lay off and no ultra-c, Akatieva I think will struggle to ever return ultra-c except maybe the triple axel (she won't come back this season), Zhilina if this lay off extends for the rest of the season will have similar struggles restoring ultra-c (I think her natural athleticism will save her and she will maintain some of her jumps).
It is looking like a battle between Petrosian-Valieva for this season and the next and possibly beyond. There is a good chance Petrosian's ultra-c starts to decay as she inevitably grows she has a low jump height.
The future looks very good for Valieva if she can see out this season with her health intact and the 4T restored.
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When was the last time we saw a 3Lz-3Lo? I miss it.
Probably last year with Samodelkina.
This year the platinium blonde girl with gorgeous dresses (Chaplygina i think) did a 3F-3lo though. I don't remember other -3lo combos.
I think quads chasing and the new rules about sequences pretty much killed that combo.
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Yes, 3Lz+3Lo is too risky. Theoretically, 3+3 is not needed at all in the free without ultra-c.
+3Lo is now used by some men to increase BV.
Yes, I LOVE Loop combos. It's the most beautiful combo out there.
I still think that Zagitova's 3Lz+3Lo was the best. She had such a lovely running edge on the Loop.
Shcherbakova's 3Lz+3Lo was not as good, but she was super consistent with it, and it was essential to get that insanely high BV when she did two quads and two 3Lzs.
Trusova had a wonderful 3Lz+3Lo at the beginning, but she was inconsistent with it and dropped it later on.
And I always loved Nugumanova's 3Lo+3Lo, though it was never worth it as it was deemed UR all the time.
Chaplygina, who I always think of as Loop-combo-girl, has always done Loop combos, but they almost never pay off.
As Loop-combos are super difficult to do, I think the scoring of it is unfair. They should have a higher BV than just the two jumps added together.
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Any 3+3 should I think.
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I was watching Zagitova replays, thats why it came to mind. She was SO good. Everyone is always reminiscing on Anna but I think Zagitova was better. I actually cant believe how good she was. And her 3-3 was so beautiful. But I did watch some Anna replays and her 3-3 was splendid too. Her 2021 Nats performances will never get old.
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Matia Kotova (also Kazan junior) competes with the 3F+3Lo. Not so long ago, she won Kazan Championships.
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Alina's 3Lz3Lo was the most beautiful triple-triple combo ever executed on ice and I'm Anna's fan.
I remember people saying Yulia's at her spins was looking like perfect porcelain figurine and it was the same with Alina's combo - it looked so effortless, elegant and lovely.
I remember people saying Yulia's at her spins was looking like perfect porcelain figurine and it was the same with Alina's combo - it looked so effortless, elegant and lovely.
btw today Chaplygina won the All-Russian "Enisey Symphony" competitions with two clean 3F-3Lo both in SP and FS with total score over 200
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Kamilla Nelyubova competes with +3Lo combos. She didn't manage to fully rotate it this season, but landed it before.
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Zagi's 3Lz-3Lo was superb. Trusova's is 2nd. She was just so quick. The one in the free skate at 2020-21 nats was one of her bests, if not the best.Alina's 3Lz3Lo was the most beautiful triple-triple combo ever executed on ice and I'm Anna's fan.
I remember people saying Yulia's at her spins was looking like perfect porcelain figurine and it was the same with Alina's combo - it looked so effortless, elegant and lovely.
These girls (including Shcherbakova) probably never jumped solo triple loops in seniors (or did it very rarely).
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They're doing throw jumps. Not surprising when you think aboutit.
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I was just thinking. Looking at the Seasons Best List now for women, it is very obvious that the Russian girls are not there.
Right now, the 24th spot is held by Yelim Kim with 187.91 points. When the Russians were included the top 24 was above 200 points.
If you look at the scores from the Russian Grand Prix, there are 16 Russian seniors that scores higher than 187.91, and 20 juniors.
If you merge the Russian scores with the official SB scores, there would only be 6 non-Russians left in the Top 24 and the limit would be raised to 203.22 points. And there would be 18 Russians.
Of course, if the Russians were to compete internationally, a lot of these seniors and juniors would never had the chance, so it is safe to say that not all 18 Russians in the merged list would actually be there. But at least half of the SB 24 list would probably consist of Russians.
It's crazy. Just a thought.
Right now, the 24th spot is held by Yelim Kim with 187.91 points. When the Russians were included the top 24 was above 200 points.
If you look at the scores from the Russian Grand Prix, there are 16 Russian seniors that scores higher than 187.91, and 20 juniors.
If you merge the Russian scores with the official SB scores, there would only be 6 non-Russians left in the Top 24 and the limit would be raised to 203.22 points. And there would be 18 Russians.
Of course, if the Russians were to compete internationally, a lot of these seniors and juniors would never had the chance, so it is safe to say that not all 18 Russians in the merged list would actually be there. But at least half of the SB 24 list would probably consist of Russians.
It's crazy. Just a thought.
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