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Sure, being 3 times Russian champion in a row and what she did at Olympics, it's very easily surpassable... :biggrin:
It’s actually so surpassable and easy that you figure it’s a common occurrence.

Hopefully my fingers don’t start bleeding from having to type out the names of everyone that had done this “easy” thing. I should get a pair of gloves to protect my fingers.

Oh wait, Anna is the only Russian lady that has ever accomplished this.
 
It’s actually so surpassable and easy that you figure it’s a common occurrence.

Hopefully my fingers don’t start bleeding from having to type out the names of everyone that had done this “easy” thing. I should get a pair of gloves to protect my fingers.

Oh wait, Anna is the only Russian lady that has ever accomplished this.
You're still arguing against a cherry picked straw man absolutely not a single person ever claimed.
 
According to RIA, Akatieva might miss the entire season.
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According to RIA, Akatieva might miss the entire season.
Well, I expected this...I mean, if she was recovering well, we probably would have seen clips of her on the ice. Hopefully she does take the rest of the season off and allows her foot the time it needs to heal properly.
 
Its confirmed - doctors said shes not allowed to put any stress on her leg for the next 3 months at minimum.
If it's that serious it's almost certainly the end of her career. Even if it heals it will flare up once she goes back to normal loads for any extended period.

This came at the wrong time for Eteri, and I can sense not everything was quite right with Kamila in that free skate. There's some friction with the coaches. Eteri seems disinterested, just a weird vibe around it all. Rightly or wrongly the girls themselves will question Eteri's methods with this injury (I mean skaters who jump triples and doubles get stress fractures). Valieva and Petrosian are quite soft with their landings, but Akatieva always had a more jarring landing carries less speed with the second jump. Zhilina has that problem too.
 
Its confirmed - doctors said shes not allowed to put any stress on her leg for the next 3 months at minimum.
oof...well, I kinda agree with skating91. This sounds like the beginning of the end for Akatieva. 3 months is the minimum, and even if she does rest it for that long, she is still very likely to experience flare ups if it's that serious. Not to mention she'll be spending so much time off ice, so she'll have to completely restore her jumps, and her body will experience changes in the meantime, especially now that she won't be training so intensely...
Maybe I'm wrong and she'll be able to overcome this like Anna overcome her broken leg, but it's not looking good for her. I mean, there's a pretty big difference between 13 and 16.
 
oof...well, I kinda agree with skating91. This sounds like the beginning of the end for Akatieva. 3 months is the minimum, and even if she does rest it for that long, she is still very likely to experience flare ups if it's that serious. Not to mention she'll be spending so much time off ice, so she'll have to completely restore her jumps, and her body will experience changes in the meantime, especially now that she won't be training so intensely...
Maybe I'm wrong and she'll be able to overcome this like Anna overcome her broken leg, but it's not looking good for her. I mean, there's a pretty big difference between 13 and 16.
It is like after the Olympics when Valieva, Trusova, Shcherbakova relaxed, basically their bodies changed and Trusova especially could never recover (Shcherbakova had no intention of competing again, Valieva still at a high level). This will happen to Akatieva now, has to almost relearn how to skate it will be so much different to what she remembers.

In a small fed, then yes she can take her time to come back, but the sport will pass her by there's so much competition in Russia. It is really cruel luck for her.
 
I remember Sofia being asked about 26 Olympics, smiling and replying "yes, I'm 2026 girl".
I hope it will happen for her as she's immense talent. :pray:
 
According to RIA, Akatieva might miss the entire season.
I suspected that would be the case. But this is a good year to do just that if she needs to heal completely. Others are also injured and healing, (Veronika) and assuming Russian participation in the Olympics down the road, this is a good year to lay off, heal and regroup-there is nothing at stake except team funding, and the Russian Fed isn't going to cut Akatieva off.
 
Guys didnt Shcherbakova break her whole leg and then come back to win the Olympics. Lets just relax. A fracture should never be a career ending injury. If this ends her career its 100% her Coach's fault for either restricting her diet too much or some other bizarre methods. As long as she follows a conventional recovery plan like a normal athlete then she should be back for next season. She and her coaches just need to be patient.
 
Zhilina has that problem too.
I think Zhilina will be fine. I have trust that Plushenko treats his athlete well enough. And theres no news about how long she is out for, we might see her still in the finals. What Injury does she have exactly?

It is like after the Olympics when Valieva, Trusova, Shcherbakova relaxed, basically their bodies changed and Trusova especially could never recover (Shcherbakova had no intention of competing again, Valieva still at a high level). This will happen to Akatieva now, has to almost relearn how to skate it will be so much different to what she remembers.

In a small fed, then yes she can take her time to come back, but the sport will pass her by there's so much competition in Russia. It is really cruel luck for her.
Trusova didnt change much after the Olympics. She was already mature there and looked like she does now in regards to body structure. Its just normal weight she gained from not training now. I think she just didnt want to compete after Olympics either.

The only real precedent for a disaster like this was Usacheva. She had a significantly more severe injury than Akateva, though.
 
Guys didnt Shcherbakova break her whole leg and then come back to win the Olympics. Lets just relax. A fracture should never be a career ending injury. If this ends her career its 100% her Coach's fault for either restricting her diet too much or some other bizarre methods. As long as she follows a conventional recovery plan like a normal athlete then she should be back for next season. She and her coaches just need to be patient.
I don't think getting injured at 13 and getting injured at 16 are quite the same. Of course, it is still possible for her to recover if she rests it properly, but stress fractures are serious and can very much become a chronic problem. One need only look at Rika to see how they can ruin a career. Hopefully her parents and coaches will understand the seriousness and care for her properly.
I think Zhilina will be fine. I have trust that Plushenko treats his athlete well enough. And theres no news about how long she is out for, we might see her still in the finals. What Injury does she have exactly?
I don't think it was ever specified, just said that she had a shoulder injury
 
I don't think getting injured at 13 and getting injured at 16 are quite the same. Of course, it is still possible for her to recover if she rests it properly, but a stress fractures are serious, and one need only look at Rika to see how they can ruin a career. Hopefully her parents and coaches will understand the seriousness and care for her properly.

I don't think it was ever specified, just said that she had a shoulder injury
Yea you're right about that first part for sure. But still, a fracture ending a career? Thats not normal. If they let her eat and rest as required she can recover fully. Yes it will be hard for her to regain everything but with patience I think its doable for next season.

Oh right, I did know that it was a shoulder injury but I forgot. I guess that supports what I said, I think Plushenko's methods are far more sensical and athletically conventional (his athletes seem normal size for their age, and they do extensive strength/conditioning) so Zhilina's harder landings shouldnt destroy her. And her shoulder injury should almost definitely heal fully and not do much to her career, as long as its not a full tear or something (which I'm sure we would have heard about).
 
Yea you're right about that first part for sure. But still, a fracture ending a career? Thats not normal. If they let her eat and rest as required she can recover fully. Yes it will be hard for her to regain everything but with patience I think its doable for next season.

Oh right, I did know that it was a shoulder injury but I forgot. I guess that supports what I said, I think Plushenko's methods are far more sensical and athletically conventional (his athletes seem normal size for their age, and they do extensive strength/conditioning) so Zhilina's harder landings shouldnt destroy her. And her shoulder injury should almost definitely heal fully and not do much to her career, as long as its not a full tear or something (which I'm sure we would have heard about).
I wonder if her injury is more like Medvedeva's or Rika's. If it's like Medvedeva's, maybe just a little worse, i say good news. Because Medvedeva spent no more than 5-6 weeks off ice and she was adding 3T to each jump in official practices when she came back to comp. Like someone who wasn't badly injured and had to go easy. Radionova said she also skated with the same injury. So maybe Akatieva can recover if she really stay off ice for three months.

If it's like Rika's (which on MRI seemed scary. Like a traumatic fracture, not a stress fracture), then yikes. Girl is battling with that injury since three seasons.
 
I wonder if her injury is more like Medvedeva's or Rika's. If it's like Medvedeva's, maybe just a little worse, i say good news. Because Medvedeva spent no more than 5-6 weeks off ice and she was adding 3T to each jump in official practices when she came back to comp. Like someone who wasn't badly injured and had to go easy. Radionova said she also skated with the same injury. So maybe Akatieva can recover if she really stay off ice for three months.

If it's like Rika's (which on MRI seemed scary. Like a traumatic fracture, not a stress fracture), then yikes. Girl is battling with that injury since three seasons.
Well I'm pretty sure Akateva has a stress fracture, not traumatic. I think most likely forcing herself into test skates and also that exhibition just delayed her recovery a lot. The fact that she participated in those to begin with demonstrates her stubborn mentality and so she presumably trained too ambitiously as well hence prolonging the recovery even more. I think if she can relax and discipline herself all will be fine. She needs to stay off the ice and just do basic, safe resistance training to keep her stability and flexibility, and not let her cardio get too messed up. If she at least maintains the important intricacies of her athleticism, the technical side of things shouldn't be impossible to recover through muscle memory after only 3 months. Otherwise just stop worrying about her weight and let herself get all the nutrients she needs to recover.

I'll say that I don't think Eteri's diet plans are negative in general for healthy girls like people cry about, BUT for recovery its definitely really bad and they need to put the weight particularities aside.
 
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