2023-24 Skate Canada Challenge – Junior | Senior
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I'd send Sara-Maude since she has improved her long and is the highest placing other than Maddie and Kaiya who has the minimums.So, 4CC is:
Maddie
Kaiya
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Do we default to Sara-Maude because she is one of the few sent to international competitions?
Poor Audreanne!! The best Canadian lady never sent to international competitions
Skate Canada didn't give themselves a lot of choice in the selections for women, they could change that.
It was really only a choice between Justine and Sara-Maude and Justine crumbled.
I’m just mad because in a summer competition in Quebec:
1) Justine (Sent to Autumn Classic)
Passed 166 domestic score
2) Audreanne
Just missed the 166 score
3) Sara-Maude
Audreanne keeps missing opportunities
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She has nothing to lose because she has no senior scores. So it's not like she can go anywhere but junior worlds... and I doubt that they will send her unless she lands everything again two programs in a row. It's usually the junior national champion + the best junior eligible which will most likely be hetty or even kaiya.
Glad she is working on it. Sara-Maude landed some in practice too... The issue is that since they are always chasing scores and opportunities to be sent out, when they finally have a competition, they cannot try these tricks... because if they miss and have a meltdown, they are done. Send the skaters out to try 3-3s and 3as or what not !!!!Wow!! Ted said her 2A is great and so high!! He said she should turn that to a 3A and Fee-Ann said she is working on that
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So here we see a case of a lady winning a domestic event and handedly beating others who have been sent out a few times and yet she has no chance to go anywhere or do anything outside Canada. Worse part is that even if she were sent out now chances are she would not score so high because she would be too new for international judges to give her the benefit of the doubt and mark her fairly.
Have to wonder if Fiona has not mastered the art of doing both pairs and singles as quickly as Lia did last year.
Have to wonder if Fiona has not mastered the art of doing both pairs and singles as quickly as Lia did last year.
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Fiona last year. Fée Ann this year... Who will be next ?
It is really hard to tell if Fiona really is chasing both. She had a bye for Nationals and decided to compete in back to back events over the course of the two days and I think she was not as rested as she needed to skate to the best of her abilities.
Considering how Skate Canada is not really investing on singles, maybe she should stick to pairs. They already have all triples but the 2axel jump... So why not make a run for it?
I thought Fiona looked tired when I saw her in the kiss and cry. Props to her for doing as well as she did in both disciplines.
IMO at the elite level, to maintain both disciplines of pairs and singles freeskate is near impossible. Not just the physical endurance of training, but to me enduring the psychological ups and downs of a competition four times (short and long programs) over a span of a few days would make one feel depleted!
I would've thought they would when Maddie won Challenge and then bronze at Nationals with no senior international.
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well that was just in 2019-20 season ... it will take a lot longer before they realize what is happening just about every year
Some observations I didn't make while at the rink:
- Ted had his green screen set up outside Rink A for interviews, I could see the junior pairs interview through the window
- Kaiya had a huge jump while warming up before her free in front of my section, she looked a little stressed after the fall on the first jump, which is understandable
- Hetty had some big jumps too
- it was a group from Ontario that had the cowbells out. Another group from Alberta cheered on Alexandra Sarmiento Diaz, but no cowbell
- they had Hetty and Kaiya waiting by the kiss and cry during Fee-Ann's skate for the victory ceremony. I didn't stay to watch it, I had to catch a bus. Ted was hanging around that area too for the last flight.
- the women were very enjoyable to watch in person and I hope more of them get out to show their talent on an international stage
- Ted had his green screen set up outside Rink A for interviews, I could see the junior pairs interview through the window
- Kaiya had a huge jump while warming up before her free in front of my section, she looked a little stressed after the fall on the first jump, which is understandable
- Hetty had some big jumps too
- it was a group from Ontario that had the cowbells out. Another group from Alberta cheered on Alexandra Sarmiento Diaz, but no cowbell
- they had Hetty and Kaiya waiting by the kiss and cry during Fee-Ann's skate for the victory ceremony. I didn't stay to watch it, I had to catch a bus. Ted was hanging around that area too for the last flight.
- the women were very enjoyable to watch in person and I hope more of them get out to show their talent on an international stage
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Just thought I’d post Fee-Ann’s international result this year.
FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS 1 Iida KARHUNEN
FIN 166.01 1 1 2 Olivia BACSA
SUI 156.30 2 2 3 Leandra TZIMPOUKAKIS
SUI 145.61 4 3 4 Fee Ann LANDRY
CAN 145.30 3 6 5 Eve DUBECQ
FRA 143.86 5 5 6 Chiara HRISTOVA
BUL 143.51 6 7 7 Sadie Shen WENG
TPE 138.02 11 4 8 Amanda GHEZZO
ITA 132.48 9 8 9 Giulia BARUCCHI
ITA 131.68 7 10 10 Lola GHOZALI
FRA 130.01 8 9 11 Lia LYUBENOVA
BUL 120.96 12 11 12 Iida MÄKI
FIN 119.82 10 13 13 Flora Marie SCHALLER
AUT 116.39 15 12 14 Ina JUNGMANN
GER 115.10 13 14 15 Anita MAPELLI
ITA 110.70 14 15 16 Krista GEORGIEVA
BUL 101.28 16 16 17 Sara SCHIAVONE RECIO
ESP 95.65 17 17 18 Ysaline HIBON
LUX 93.30 21 19 19 Ymke JAGERSMA
NED 92.49 20 20 20 Celia Vandhana GARNACHO
ESP 92.11 22 18 21 Ksenija HEIMANE
LAT 91.46 19 21 22 Sasha TANDOGAN
GER 91.14 18 22 WD Ninon DAPOIGNY
FRA
I’m assuming she was sent to this event because she placed top 6 at NextGen and SC didn’t send her to a JGP event. So, this was a sorry send for Fee-Ann.
To be honest, based on this competition, if I were Skate Canada, I wouldn’t have rated her as a top ten female skater from Canada. I think she learned a lot from this experience and worked on her weaknesses. So, it was a good thing for her to get this kind of experience. Competing and losing to Iida and two Swiss girls made her realize what she needs to do, to go to the next level.
I will wait till after Nationals, to see if this was a fluke result or not. But, right now, she has a spot in my eyes to an international event followed by Junior Worlds.
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She never appeared on Skate Canada's assignments... I am not sure why.
Of course not...but one competition is too small a sample to rate skaters. If Skate Canada identified her as next gen, then they know what she is capable of doing.
Yup. Our athletes cannot find out how they fare internationally until they compete.
Fluke or no fluke, she has reached 180+ score at challenge.
Fluke or no fluke, she has huge jumps and a complete set of triples (except for a 3a but that is a jump she could manage unlike many)
Fluke or no fluke, she has shown she can hold her nerves skating last after winning the SP.
I watch tennis a lot... If you have watched the Billie Jean King cup, where Canada won the big prize, you can understand how important opportunities are. Marina Stakusic, unknown to most, chosen by the captain because of recent results on the lower level circuit, rose to the occasion... Leylah did well too. In the first couple match-ups the captain chose Genie (many see her as a has-been) to play with Dabrowsky the doubles matches which were won...
The thing all these women have in common : they know how to win.. they have won on different stages, they know how to punch the V. Once you have done something, you know you can do it... So many of our athletes have no clue how good they are ! Competitions help in that sense.
Learning how to win is hard. It's something Madeline has confessed that she has to learn herself. In order to learn how to win, you need.... you got it... to get sent to international events
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Senior Women's Results
Rank Name Section SP FS Total SP# FS#
1 Fée-Ann Landry QC 61.44 120.61 182.05 (1) (1)
2 Kaiya Ruiter AB/NT/NU 60.22 116.20 176.42 (2) (3)
3 Hetty Shi ON 53.17 118.14 171.31 (9) (2)
4 Uliana Shiryaeva BC/YK 56.91 113.77 170.68 (6) (4)
5 Audréanne Foster QC 55.09 112.60 167.69 (8) (5)
6 Sara-Maude Dupuis QC 58.93 106.95 165.88 (3) (6)
7 Marie-Maude Pomerleau QC 58.72 105.53 164.25 (4) (7)
8 Marie-France D'Amour QC 50.73 101.50 152.23 (11) (8)
9 Fiona Bombardier ON 55.55 94.11 149.66 (7) (15)
10 Justine Miclette QC 58.42 91.12 149.54 (5) (17)
11 Breken Brezden MB 50.32 95.88 146.20 (12) (12)
12 Katherine Medland Spence ON 51.85 94.32 146.17 (10) (14)
13 Cristina Lyons ON 50.03 96.06 146.09 (13) (11)
14 Rose Théroux QC 48.31 96.67 144.98 (16) (10)
15 Natalie Roccatani ON 46.32 97.59 143.91 (17) (9)
16 Julianne Lussier QC 49.97 90.91 140.88 (14) (18)
17 Nour-Houda Foura QC 45.62 94.40 140.02 (19) (13)
18 Abby Bouma ON 48.98 85.36 134.34 (15) (26)
19 Caitlyn Kukulowicz ON 44.39 89.72 134.11 (23) (21)
20 Marie-Raphaële Savoie QC 44.40 89.69 134.09 (22) (22)
21 Amelia Orzel ON 46.22 86.94 133.16 (18) (24)
22 Mia Clarke QC 42.79 90.27 133.06 (25) (20)
23 Miriam Kleiman ON 45.06 87.86 132.92 (21) (23)
24 Elise Dawson ON 40.33 91.56 131.89 (28) (16)
25 Mia-Catherine Lussier QC 41.04 90.47 131.51 (27) (19)
26 Amy Shao Ning Yang BC/YK 40.15 86.08 126.23 (29) (25)
27 Grace Johnson AB/NT/NU 45.35 78.40 123.75 (20) (27)
28 Stephanie Katopodis ON 43.10 74.17 117.27 (24) (28)
29 Alexandra Sarmiento Diaz AB/NT/NU 42.45 67.64 110.09 (26) (31)
30 Emma Dinda ON 37.62 69.79 107.41 (32) (30)
31 Katherine Karon ON 33.21 73.66 106.87 (33) (29)
32 Melody Zhu BC/YK 40.12 63.12 103.24 (30) (32)
33 Emily Millard BC/YK 38.86 57.39 96.25 (31) (33)
Rank Name Section SP FS Total SP# FS#
1 Fée-Ann Landry QC 61.44 120.61 182.05 (1) (1)
2 Kaiya Ruiter AB/NT/NU 60.22 116.20 176.42 (2) (3)
3 Hetty Shi ON 53.17 118.14 171.31 (9) (2)
4 Uliana Shiryaeva BC/YK 56.91 113.77 170.68 (6) (4)
5 Audréanne Foster QC 55.09 112.60 167.69 (8) (5)
6 Sara-Maude Dupuis QC 58.93 106.95 165.88 (3) (6)
7 Marie-Maude Pomerleau QC 58.72 105.53 164.25 (4) (7)
8 Marie-France D'Amour QC 50.73 101.50 152.23 (11) (8)
9 Fiona Bombardier ON 55.55 94.11 149.66 (7) (15)
10 Justine Miclette QC 58.42 91.12 149.54 (5) (17)
11 Breken Brezden MB 50.32 95.88 146.20 (12) (12)
12 Katherine Medland Spence ON 51.85 94.32 146.17 (10) (14)
13 Cristina Lyons ON 50.03 96.06 146.09 (13) (11)
14 Rose Théroux QC 48.31 96.67 144.98 (16) (10)
15 Natalie Roccatani ON 46.32 97.59 143.91 (17) (9)
16 Julianne Lussier QC 49.97 90.91 140.88 (14) (18)
17 Nour-Houda Foura QC 45.62 94.40 140.02 (19) (13)
18 Abby Bouma ON 48.98 85.36 134.34 (15) (26)
19 Caitlyn Kukulowicz ON 44.39 89.72 134.11 (23) (21)
20 Marie-Raphaële Savoie QC 44.40 89.69 134.09 (22) (22)
21 Amelia Orzel ON 46.22 86.94 133.16 (18) (24)
22 Mia Clarke QC 42.79 90.27 133.06 (25) (20)
23 Miriam Kleiman ON 45.06 87.86 132.92 (21) (23)
24 Elise Dawson ON 40.33 91.56 131.89 (28) (16)
25 Mia-Catherine Lussier QC 41.04 90.47 131.51 (27) (19)
26 Amy Shao Ning Yang BC/YK 40.15 86.08 126.23 (29) (25)
27 Grace Johnson AB/NT/NU 45.35 78.40 123.75 (20) (27)
28 Stephanie Katopodis ON 43.10 74.17 117.27 (24) (28)
29 Alexandra Sarmiento Diaz AB/NT/NU 42.45 67.64 110.09 (26) (31)
30 Emma Dinda ON 37.62 69.79 107.41 (32) (30)
31 Katherine Karon ON 33.21 73.66 106.87 (33) (29)
32 Melody Zhu BC/YK 40.12 63.12 103.24 (30) (32)
33 Emily Millard BC/YK 38.86 57.39 96.25 (31) (33)
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