2024-25 Canadian Figure Skating

[4everchan]

Skaters with a GP assignment have priority for the early Challengers. Kaiya will get a Challenger before SCI.

They have Denis Ten on the page for the next Challenger, so Kaiya will be sent there along with other women in need of SBs and minimums

(I'll be more surprised if they actually send skaters there, I'm expecting Budapest will be the next one. But I can hope )

Well.. they have lombardia listed... I guess we are sending... judges and officials

 

[saine]

Well.. they have lombardia listed... I guess we are sending... judges and officials

They do, and adding Denis Ten was probably a mistake. But I can dream.

 

[saine]

Also on the Events page, Veillon/Brandys replace Carandiuc/Carandiuc at JGP Ostrava.

 

[RatedPG]

Sigh….

Justine gets so many opportunities compared to some of the ladies who have been out skating her domestically.
Skate Canada must have been impressed with her 3rd place finish last year at Autumn Classic. She was above their benchmark of 166 last season at a domestic event and then international. It seems surpassing the benchmark internationally carries more weight.

Breken - skated 170+ earlier this month
Fee Ann - skated 180+ last year to win Challenger event over Kaiya. Was close to 166 at recent event with 165+ score
Uliana - has skated 160+ at three events. Has surpassed the 166 score in both seasons.
Katherine - has never surpassed 166. But, was close last week at 165 and deserves some mention.

I think Skate Canada is happy choosing their 4 single men and 4 single ladies. The four Senior Men makes sense. Those are the best four and nobody else has been close to 219. But, outside the four chosen ladies, other Senior Ladies are capable of a SB that can put them on alternate list for GP circuit. But, they don’t seem to get any opportunities.

Looks like Maddie, Kaiya and Sara-Maude are locks for 4CC this year as these three will be the only one’s achieving the minimum TES 4CC scores.

 

[4everchan]

Looks like Maddie, Kaiya and Sara-Maude are locks for 4CC this year as these three will be the only one’s achieving the minimum TES 4CC scores.

hehe.. don't forget Justine also has her 4CC ces mins

 

[RatedPG]

hehe.. don't forget Justine also has her 4CC ces mins

Oh! HeHe! I couldn’t find that post @saine posted. Thanks for that confirmation. If one of the top three ladies is injured, i guess they have Justine as a back up

 

[saine]

Oh! HeHe! I couldn’t find that post @saine posted. Thanks for that confirmation. If one of the top three ladies is injured, i guess they have Justine as a back up

Seniors is here - https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/2024-25-canadian-figure-skating.98213/post-3295039
Juniors is here - https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/2024-25-canadian-figure-skating.98213/post-3295298

The only major change with the Juniors is that Grayson got his minimums back, and William Chan also got them.

Katherine Medland Spence had the 4CC minimums, but lost them by .07 points Fiona still has the minimums, so she could technically be a back-up, but not likely to happen.

 

[Reverie]

They do, and adding Denis Ten was probably a mistake. But I can dream.

Why fly a whole team to Kazakhstan which is essentially is a jet lag nightmare especially if you're coming from the western side of Canada and maybe given one day to adjust, when flying to Italy or Germany would give a skater a faster chance of jet lag recovery. I guess too late for Skate Canada to send skaters to Bergamo.

 

[4everchan]

Why fly a whole team to Kazakhstan which is essentially is a jet lag nightmare especially if you're coming from the western side of Canada and maybe given one day to adjust, when flying to Italy or German would give a skater a faster chance of jet lag recovery. I guess too late for Skate Canada to send skaters to Bergamo.

well they are not going to Italy

 

[Reverie]

well they are not going to Italy

 

[saine]

Why fly a whole team to Kazakhstan which is essentially is a jet lag nightmare especially if you're coming from the western side of Canada and maybe given one day to adjust, when flying to Italy or Germany would give a skater a faster chance of jet lag recovery. I guess too late for Skate Canada to send skaters to Bergamo.

Because it has a reputation for giving high SBs and minimums. I know it doesn't make sense logistically and financially, I just find it funny that they added it to the Events page after not including it during the initial list of Challengers.

The later Challengers during the GP would be better for the skaters who aren't on it since everyone is going to enter the early Challengers to get one in before it starts. Especially when the schedule this season has fewer Challengers before the GP starts. That's probably why Skate Canada is sending so many skaters to Nebelhorn this season.

 

[Reverie]

Because it has a reputation for giving high SBs and minimums. I know it doesn't make sense logistically and financially, I just find it funny that they added it to the Events page after not including it during the initial list of Challengers.

The later Challengers during the GP would be better for the skaters who aren't on it since everyone is going to enter the early Challengers to get one in before it starts. Especially when the schedule this season has fewer Challengers before the GP starts. That's probably why Skate Canada is sending so many skaters to Nebelhorn this season.

Interesting observation as I had assumed the judges for Challengers and Grand Prix events are randomly selected with the aim to have broad representation across the globe.

 

[saine]

Interesting observation as I had assumed the judges for Challengers and Grand Prix events are randomly selected with the aim to have broad representation across the globe.

For the Grand Prix:

The ISU President will appoint all Officials (Referees, Technical Controllers, Technical Specialists, Data & Replay Operators and OAC members who serve from home) for each individual event and the Final in accordance with the ISU Regulations 2024. In line with Article 38, paragraph 3 of the ISU Constitution, the ISU Council will also assign an ISU Representative to each individual ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating event.

and

The panel of Judges in each individual event of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating will consist of 9 Judges of different ISU Members in each discipline if possible, but not less than 7 Judges. Only International or ISU Judges are eligible to serve in the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating events. Each Judge may participate in no more than two ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating events plus the ISU Grand Prix of Skating Final.
The Organizing ISU Members will invite the Judges based on a procedure agreed with the ISU.

For Challengers:

The Technical Panel members, the Referee and the Data and Replay Operators of International Competitions included in the Challenger Series in Figure Skating must be proposed by the respective ISU organizing Member to the ISU Secretariat latest 45 days prior to the first day of the competition. Based on the information received and further to internal ISU consultations, involving possible changes as necessary to comply with the above-mentioned minimum requirements, the ISU Vice President Figure Skating will decide upon the final appointments of the above-mentioned Event Officials. The respective organizing ISU Member will be informed through the ISU Secretariat and must inform the participating ISU Members accordingly.

and

The panel of Judges must include at least 7 Judges, all from different ISU Members. In exceptional cases the minimum of 6 Judges per panel may be authorized by the ISU Vice President Figure Skating. The qualification of the Judges must be at least “International”.
The panel of Judges must be submitted to the ISU Secretariat latest 7 days before the first day of the competition for reviewal and approval.

So for the Grand Prix, the technical panel is appointed by the ISU and they have a procedure for inviting judges for the organizing members. Challengers don't have those requirements, so they can pick whoever they want as long as they meet the requirements and can meet approval.

 

[SnowWhite]

Skate Canada not playing the game properly again.... Why put your two top teams at the same JGP?

It seems likely Kemp/Elizarov were/are dealing with some sort of injury or issue, based on them not being at the NextGen comp and also WDing from Patinage Quebec. If that's true, then giving them the last two pairs JGPs makes sense to give them as much time as possible to recover and be ready. They could have given Desrochers/Thrasher the first two JGPs to keep them separate, but having them skate back to back events is not be ideal either. It would be different if there were more than four JGP pairs events. Really, compared to other SC decisions, this one makes sense.

 

[4everchan]

It seems likely Kemp/Elizarov were/are dealing with some sort of injury or issue, based on them not being at the NextGen comp and also WDing from Patinage Quebec. If that's true, then giving them the last two pairs JGPs makes sense to give them as much time as possible to recover and be ready. They could have given Desrochers/Thrasher the first two JGPs to keep them separate, but having them skate back to back events is not be ideal either. It would be different if there were more than four JGP pairs events. Really, compared to other SC decisions, this one makes sense.

Ok . fair enough if seen like this i stand corrected

 

[4everchan]

For Challengers:

Not sure everyone will remember but the Mordavian Ornament competition LOL... those scores LOL

 

[soccerjc77]

Does anyone can help me for buying a ticket to Canadian National in Laval :

I wish to sit in the best place to see Gabby Daleman signature triple toe / triple toe.
Do you think that she will executed the jump in the section 11/14 (in the kiss & cry area) or she will be in the section 4/5 ?

Otherwise, what do you think are the best places to watch this competition?

 

[4everchan]

Does anyone can help me for buying a ticket to Canadian National in Laval :

I wish to sit in the best place to see Gabby Daleman signature triple toe / triple toe.
Do you think that she will executed the jump in the section 11/14 (in the kiss & cry area) or she will be in the section 4/5 ?

Otherwise, what do you think are the best places to watch this competition?

I bought tickets but I had no clue where to buy them because it's not written on the website where judges or the kiss and cry are... and I just went with my guts and i am sure it will be okay...BUT there is no way I would be able to tell if it will be in either one of these corners.

The silver lining : Gabby's 3-3 which I have seen before live, covers SO MUCH ice, that you can see it from anywhere quite well...

 

[FlossieH]

Does anyone can help me for buying a ticket to Canadian National in Laval :

I wish to sit in the best place to see Gabby Daleman signature triple toe / triple toe.
Do you think that she will executed the jump in the section 11/14 (in the kiss & cry area) or she will be in the section 4/5 ?

Otherwise, what do you think are the best places to watch this competition?

If you are only going because you want to see Gabby Daleman and her 3T-3T combo, it might be best to wait before buying tickets. She has only done one competition so far. The last couple of times she's tried to come back from injury, she has started okay but then ended up out injured again. Hopefully she will stay fit this time, but it is by no means guaranteed. Also, if she does stay fit, her programme will probably evolve. You cannot base decisions about where to sit for nationals on her programme from the Ontario sectionals because she did not have all her jumps back yet (and did not have the 3T-3T you are wanting to see).

 

[saine]

JGP Gdansk entries:

Men
Anthony Paradis
Edward Vasii

Women
Lulu Lin

Pairs
Kemp/Elizarov
Quattrochi/Desmarais
Rolland/Lacasse

Ice Dance
Gauthier/Thieren
Homick/Buelow

Quattrochi/Desmarais are going to be switched out somewhere, the ISU entries have them listed for three different JGPs at the moment. They aren't confirmed on the Skate Canada page for Ankara, so that's probably where they're a placeholder.