I assume they are since they are supposed to compete the rhythm dance on the 3rd, which would be now in Shanghai. But for the travel money though, from the announcement:
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But they are not participants any more. They will not compete, and they cannot claim it was through no fault of their own.. It is open for the Chinese organizers to decide one way or another, they can easily claim the risk was taken by Skate Canada who submitted the team for competition while fully aware that the case was pending and it could end this way.
I would actually feel it a better solution that the costs go back to where they belong....
That could get messy. I imagine the Chinese fed would want their money back, given the circumstances.
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Well .. I'm guessing organizers knew this may be a risk?
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I find it interesting the discussion about Kaiya and her new coach who's a spin "expert" b/c she was formerly coached by Scott Davis who was one of the best spinners in the world when he was competing.
The organisers are unlikely to have had any information about when the case was going to be heard. Skate Canada are likely to have known.
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Agreed but sometimes best at something doesn't mean best at coaching it.I find it interesting the discussion about Kaiya and her new coach who's a spin "expert" b/c she was formerly coached by Scott Davis who was one of the best spinners in the world when he was competing.
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Well yes, I know this LOL but I was just
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Honestly, Skate Canada should volunteer to bear the costs, it is their own mess and they should take responsibility for it. I really think the costs are the least of the problem and is not what should really be discussed at this point.
Shanghai Trophy is by invitation. Skate Canada wouldn't have submitted them, they were invited to participate. They were supposed to compete at Denis Ten Memorial originally, but ended up being invited to Shanghai Trophy instead.
It would be a gesture of goodwill from Skate Canada to pay, but that's between them and the organizers.
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It does not change the fact the mess is entirely Skate Canada's to bear. It would be just honorable for them to admit it at this point, what are we even discussing?
Many people felt they should not have been allowed to compete until he was cleared of the accusations. They did not care, and here we are. Or rather, here they are.
Money is not the main problem. What he was confirmed to have done is the main problem.
Focusing on money at this point is an insult to the victim, and no one will persuade me otherwise.
I'm not trying to focus on the money, and I honestly don't care about it or however the mess is dealt with. I'm sorry that I came off that way to you, and I am done discussing this.
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Thank you.
My impression is Scott Davis is still her coach but her team has also hired Paige to help her work on her spins. But I guess we will see soon who is with her in Kazakhstan.I find it interesting the discussion about Kaiya and her new coach who's a spin "expert" b/c she was formerly coached by Scott Davis who was one of the best spinners in the world when he was competing.
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There is no insult to the victim at all in this thread. There are concerns about how public funds may or may not have been spent. Skate Canada gets a lot of its funding through the governments and then, through skaters registration fees themselves. This is very relevant discussion and NOT at all related to the victim here. For those who don't know, Sports Canada is making a lot of changes to provide safe environment for kids in the light of a few other scandals that happened in the last few years. It's an important discussion for us Canadians.
If some of you are not aware of the Hockey Canada scandal, then maybe they need to know about it.
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I am nowhere saying it's the same thing at all. Not at all. At the same time, it's relevant to raise some questions with how Skate Canada funded a team under such scrutiny. Of course, FBS may appeal the decision still. They have 21 days to do so.
I will leave it at that as we should focus on how our skaters competing this weekend will do !
If some of you are not aware of the Hockey Canada scandal, then maybe they need to know about it.
Hockey Canada sexual assault scandal - Wikipedia
I am nowhere saying it's the same thing at all. Not at all. At the same time, it's relevant to raise some questions with how Skate Canada funded a team under such scrutiny. Of course, FBS may appeal the decision still. They have 21 days to do so.
I will leave it at that as we should focus on how our skaters competing this weekend will do !
I do believe they will appeal the decision.There is no insult to the victim at all in this thread. There are concerns about how public funds may or may not have been spent. Skate Canada gets a lot of its funding through the governments and then, through skaters registration fees themselves. This is very relevant discussion and NOT at all related to the victim here. For those who don't know, Sports Canada is making a lot of changes to provide safe environment for kids in the light of a few other scandals that happened in the last few years. It's an important discussion for us Canadians.
If some of you are not aware of the Hockey Canada scandal, then maybe they need to know about it.
Hockey Canada sexual assault scandal - Wikipedia
I am nowhere saying it's the same thing at all. Not at all. At the same time, it's relevant to raise some questions with how Skate Canada funded a team under such scrutiny. Of course, FBS may appeal the decision still. They have 21 days to do so.
I will leave it at that as we should focus on how our skaters competing this weekend will do !
In this instance, based on the facts that i’m aware of, I actually think it may be repealed as well.
From what I have understood, and obviously I’m not privy to all the information, but this is a she said/he said assault from over a decade ago. Further to that, there have, to my knowledge, not been other allegations. Please correct me if I’m mistaken.
From a legal perspective this could get very messy as his suspension directly impacts his ability to make money.
I will add, that I 100% support victims and that false accusations are extremely rare. However that doesn’t change the precarious nature of this case.
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Given the relative swiftness of the ruling, and Skate Canada's pretty well immediate response, I would suggest there are facts that we are not aware of.
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Skate Canada has no choice to respond immediately. At this point, if they didn't respond immediately, they, themselves, would be under scrutiny. They are just following due process. They certainly wouldn't want to look like they are trying to support their star skater despite the findings. Just scroll up and read about what Hockey Canada did. Sports federations in Canada definitely do not want to appear as such.
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It's been a while now... like 3 years or so... She arrived with her family, wasn't yet released so only did summer events. Then she was allowed to compete for Canada, started out as a junior... got a JGP....this is her first season as Senior internationally.
