2024 JGP Ankara Free Dance

[lariko]

Okay, I hate to be negative but after the last like 5 or 6 performances, is this really the winners?

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Okay? So who gets to go now?

FFS STOP THE SOS SIGNALS

If P/K are going to place first (which they might not?), it will be Aboian/Veselukhin - 316.08 vs. 314.53 for G/S.

Either way, I find it difficult to stomach the though that a team scoring over 310 in total not making the JGPF and some other teams (like Wolfkostin/Tsarevski) possibly making it with much lower scores.

 

[elektra blue]

Either way, two JGP medals in their first season together and at such a young age (13 and 17!) in Ice Dance of all disciplines is such a huge accomplishment.

The Impossible Dream

 

[Ichatdelune]

That really looked like a fall and not a slide

 

[readernick]

I don't think that will be first. That was messy. The GOE reflected that. Nice program but not very well skated.

 

[elektra blue]

Wow the music cut is bad

Oopsie on the dismount there

Why am I not seeing the heart on M. Koval's shirt

dark red sequined heart on his left side, anathomically appropriate

 

[lariko]

I don't think that will be first. That was messy. The GOE reflected that. Nice program but not very well skated.

Which would be fair. But...ID.

 

[Ichatdelune]

G/S winning things the order of the universe is set right again

 

[lariko]

I assume Grimm/Savitskiy now made the Final then?

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Okay, JGPF qualifications just got more interesting, a lot more so.

Grimm/Savitskiy now have improved their chances of making it by a lot - Gold + bronze can only be beaten by gold + gold and gold + silver. P/K have joined the conversation and A/V might still make it in depending on the messiness of other events.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

I assume Grimm/Savitskiy now made the Final then?

Under normal circumstances yes, they should, but who really knows, Ice Dance has been messy this season.

Either way, I'm convinced this is due to me deliberately not putting them in first in my predictions because my dance predictions have been shitty so far this season

 

[Ichatdelune]

dark red sequined heart on his left side, anathomically appropriate

I saw it only through the replay, the lighting doesn't help

 

[lariko]

Okay, JGPF qualifications just got more interesting, a lot more so.

Grimm/Savitskiy now have improved their chances of making it by a lot - Gold + bronze can only be beaten by gold + gold and gold + silver. P/K have joined the conversation and A/V might still make it in depending on the messiness of other events.

I still wish A/V got silver which would have positioned them for the JGPF, since they seem like a more promising team than P/K, despite seniority.

 

[elektra blue]

Under normal circumstances yes, they should, but who really knows, Ice Dance has been messy this season.

Either way, I'm convinced this is due to me deliberately not putting them in first in my predictions because my dance predictions have been shitty so far this season

i trusted them and they got me a gold

 

[4everchan]

i trusted them and they got me a gold

congrats... i got bronze for trusting them too i was so far behind but dance saved me !!!!!

 

[elektra blue]

time for me to go! see you next week! love you all

 

[Jammers]

A/V will have their day they got beat by a basically Senior team posing as a Junior team and also another much older experienced team and were just a couple of points from winning despite being much younger.

 

[4everchan]

A/V will have their day they got beat by a basically Senior team posing as a Junior team and also another much older experienced team and were just a couple of points from winning despite being much younger.

All the teams competing here are junior eligible. The Germans haven't taken part in senior international events, so they are not senior posing as juniors. We had one pairs team doing that last year, yet it was still within their rights... But it is a completely different story in the ice dance field. These teams are all junior teams. I find it dismissive to the work the skaters put in when such statements are made. In their first competition, the Germans really struggled. They've come a long way. Kudos to them.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

A/V will have their day they got beat by a basically Senior team posing as a Junior team and also another much older experienced team and were just a couple of points from winning despite being much younger.

Both of the teams ahead of them here were Jr eligible before any age-eligibility changes and neither of them have ever competed as Seniors - Nobody is "posing as a Junior team". Pidgaina/Koval aren't even Sr eligible (Iryna turns 16 in three days), and Darya is almost a year younger than Caroline Mullen (with Brendan being a few months younger than Michail) but nobody calls the Mullens "basically a Senior team" either.

Unless you mean Tali/Lafornara who beat them last week, but they also never competed as Seniors, even if they were supposed to age out after last season (due to her turning 19 in March).

 

[Ichatdelune]

Just to add unnecessary comments to the discourse: I recently have decided that age doesn't necessarily reflect talent 1:1, experience is an important asset and of course more of it will bring finesse and polish, but finesse and polish are sometimes innate to certain skaters never mind their ages. Experience is just one element that makes a skater great, so being older and with more experience doesn't automatically make them more likely to win. Winning at a young age is still an impressive thing, don't get me wrong, but it's only one aspect of a skater/skaters that makes them good imo.

I may have to rewrite this later if I don't want to embarrass myself, I wrote this while watching Nebelhorn