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The problem with these 3 are that they can do it score wise but they have yet to prove they can put two good skates back to back. We could see a big flip in final results from the short program. Hate to think the winning man will be the one who scores just OK in both the short and free but doesn't win either.
 
Pairs and Dance seem to be pretty predictable, while Ladies seems to be harder to handicap.
Yes and no. We know who will be the top 4 or 5 but in what order. We have seen in Dance that our top teams are showing they can falter at times. And this could lead to some changes in final results. Same in Pairs. Deanna and Max have not been having a good season but will still win, however Lia and Trennt have shown weakness and there are a couple other teams who could jump over them with great skates.
But I do agree Ladies is hard to say who will win let alone medal. Depending on which Maddie shows up she may not even make the podium. But still think she would be sent to worlds as none of the other ladies are as accepted by international judges.
 
Who is your best bet for a wildcard skater - someone who upsets the applecart in any division?
For Senior Women, I'll go with Amy Shao Ning Yang and Kara Yun. Amy won Challenge and Kara had her best free skate of the season there. For Amy, she's had a good sectionals and really good Challenge in a row, so I'm hoping she can build on it for Nationals. She doesn't have the technical content of the other women though. Kara does have the technical content and has been working on her underrotations.

Senior Men, I'd say John Kim is my bet for the wildcard. He won the short program for Junior Men at both Nationals and Challenge last season. He tends to be stronger in the short than the free, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him in podium position after the short.
 
For Senior Women, I'll go with Amy Shao Ning Yang and Kara Yun. Amy won Challenge and Kara had her best free skate of the season there. For Amy, she's had a good sectionals and really good Challenge in a row, so I'm hoping she can build on it for Nationals. She doesn't have the technical content of the other women though. Kara does have the technical content and has been working on her underrotations.

Senior Men, I'd say John Kim is my bet for the wildcard. He won the short program for Junior Men at both Nationals and Challenge last season. He tends to be stronger in the short than the free, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him in podium position after the short.
I like your thinking on Kara, but I will go with Rio for the men as he seems to be on the move.
 
For the wild cards
I think for women though she is the Canadian champion, it would be Kaiya. She has not had a good season at all. I have a hard time deciding how to even include her in my predictions because she could be anywhere from 1 to 8-9. However, her coaching change has already shown improvement on spins... will it be enough time to fix the jumping issues she has (URs)
I don't think Amy is going to do so well at Nationals. She scored really well to qualify and skated well to do so but her limited content will catch up to her.
Uliana is the one who is on the rise in my opinion... but I still prefer watching KMS... who in some ways, as it's her first good season with her first international experience (and what a thrill- winning the whole damn event) is also a wild card....
In some ways, all these women are wild cards ;) I hope Fée Ann will shine. She's my favourite.

Men : John Kim is ambitious. If it clicks, he would be able to rise in the rankings.... So I agree about him.
I have special affection for Edrian. He will be skating at home. It may be his last ever event... considering his age. His tech content is very limited at this point without a 3a nor a quad... but if he does everything well, he could be in the final flight and who knows. Anthony won bronze last year, without 3a nor quads and actually with a big deduction when he stopped in the free to fix his laces...
Talking of which, Anthony will always be a dark horse until he gets the content he needs to shine... because he scores really well on everything he does well, from spins, to PCS, to choreo etc. If he gets it together, he could medal again.

With pairs, it seems a bit simpler. Only 6 teams this year and one of them is essentially still competing as a junior team internationally. I would say that Jazzy and Kiki could create a surprise here if more established teams falter. They do not have steady SBS passes yet but they have a lot going on for them this season.

Dance : i think the top 2 are locks but the rest is up for grabs. Fabbri Ayer are my pick for bronze because of the trajectory of their journey which seems to be upwards while Lauriault and Le Gac are having a tough and rough season in a downward spiral.... For 5th place, it's also tricky.. BBs have been faves of mine for a long time but they don't seem to have had enough mileage this year with his injury and I have not yet seen them skate well this season.
 
Who is your best bet for a wildcard skater - someone who upsets the applecart in any division?

Mine is Amy Shan Ning Yang who could be the wedge skater, who doesn't medal but prevents someone else from medaling.
Wildcards
For women: Katherine Medland Spence is my vote. She is on a trajectory and has the content. Definitely a candidate for a podium finish (hope I didn't just jinx her) I would love to see Kaiya get her jump rotations back tho too.
For men: I would love to see John Kim show in competition what he can do. I think he is special. But I would rather have all our top boys put together two solid skates (no pops, no stupid falls) so there is a real competition
For pairs: Lia and Trentt had a good second GP - much better than the first and I think they are safe for silver. Fiona and Ben are my wild card tho - they have improved so much over the season. They might take bronze. I do like Kelly Ann and Loucas but they do need to up skating skills to get the necessary international nod of approval. Jazmine and Kieran - they are wonderful to watch but need to be more solid on throws and jumps. Fingers crossed for them.
For dance: Alicia and & Paul for bronze. I like Marie-Jade and Romain but they seem to be struggling this year - not sure why.
 
My Canadian Skating Math... ranked in my own subjective order based on ISU and national scores
Unfortunately as my schedule is shaping up, I may not be able to watch much of this event due to work.

Senior DanceSenior WomenSenior MenSenior Pairs
Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier 214.84Madeline Schizas 190.04Wesley Chiu 206.94/240.38Deanna Stellato-Dudek / Maxime Deschamps 207.44
Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha 205.16Uliana Shiryaeva 167.89 / 178.83Roman Sadovsky 217.88 / 225.24Lia Pereira / Trennt Michaud 188.74
Alicia Fabbri / Paul Ayer 185.05Katherine Medland Spence 181.89Aleksa Rakic 222.49 / 223.89Kelly Ann Laurin / Loucas Éthier 178.57
Marie-Jade Lauriault / Romain Le Gac 179.27/191.00Sara-Maude Dupuis 166.31/172.45Anthony Paradis 218.97Fiona Bombardier/Benjamin Mimar 170.51
Lily Hensen / Nathan Lickers 165.40Fée-Ann Landry 156.42 / 169.03Stephen Gogolev 216.84 INJJazmine Desrochers / Kieran Thrasher 159.77
Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont 157.87 /171.61Kaiya Ruiter 165.75Matthew Newnham 198.67Cristina Lyons / Marty Haubrich 138.27
Alyssa Robinson / Jacob Portz 161.91Kara Yun 164.72Grayson Long 199.54
Jamie Fournier / Everest Zhu 161.21Amy Shao Ning Yang 170.02 Rio Morita 188.95Junior Pairs
Alisa Korneva / Kieran Macdonald 151.43Megan Woodley 156.06Edrian Paul Celestino 185.56Ava Kemp / Yohnatan Elizarov 141.26
Éliane Foroglou-Gadoury / Luke Anderson 130.88Marie-Maude Pomerleau 155.91David Li 181.31Julia QUATTROCCHI / Simon DESMARAIS 139.13
Breken Brezden 154.79Shohei Law 179.38Noemie ROLLAND / Etienne LACASSE 130.39
Junior DanceHetty Shi 150.11Bruce Waddell 173.18Siyul Back / Gavin Mahoney 107.38
Chloe Nguyen / Brendan Giang 165.61Marie-Raphaële Savoie 149.74John Kim 172.40
Sandrine Gauthier / Quentin Thieren 161.25Justine Miclette 149.15Alec Guinzbourg 158.85
Layla Veillon / Alexander Brandys 150.24Grace Johnson 138.89Brian Chiem 150.10
Auréa Cinçon-Debout / Earl Jesse Celestino 145.46Marie-France D'Amour 138.27Antoine Goyette 137.67
Summer Homick / Nicholas Buelow 140.32Julianne Lussier 135.75Damien Bueckert ??
Laurence Brière / Julien Lévesque 134.63Uma Zagele 134.53
Victoria Carandiuc / Andrei Carandiuc 132.34Junior Men
Caroline Kravets / Aiden Dotzert 124.26Junior WomenDavid Bondar 209.47
Charlie Anderson / Cayden Dawson 122.68Lia Cho 186.50David Howes 198.73
Audra Gans / Gabriel Liu 122.17Lulu LIN 167.82* DNQ INJDavid Shteyngart 197.41
Rachel Martins / Juel Kowalczyk 117.21Ksenia Krouzkevitch 162.37William Chan 187.75
Anjou Karino / Andrew Song 117.03Reese Rose 142.38Edward Nicholas Vasii 183.49
Olympia Kalaganis / Émile Deveau 116.89Mégane Vallières 141.14Jake Ellis 175.92
Sophia Gover / Billy Wilson French 115.37Calissa Adlem 139.93Parker Heiderich 173.94
Nelly-Anne Chao / Thierry Caron 114.60Sandrine Blais 138.27Nico Conforti 155.93
Gabrielle Jugnauth 137.68Neo Tran 154.85
Chaïma Ben Khelifa / Nikita Sosnenko 108.29 DNQSadie Henderson 137.41Louie Fukuda-Wu 149.77
Olivia Corneil / Alexandre Emery 105.54 DNQKonstantina Lock 135.12Étienne Lacasse 147.24
Madison Tong / Michael Boutsan 104.25 DNQKaydee Kallay 130.23Vladimir Furman 143.59
Amélia Dufour-Saysourinho / Anthony MacDonal 99.70 DNQKassidy Sinclair 129.84James Cha 141.70
WD Rilee Eby / Jacob StarkAleksa Volkova 128.83* DNQ INJLiam Schmidt 139.74
WD Alyson Lacombe / Morgan Laliberté-LaurentLaurence Gignac 128.02Kole Sauve 138.94
Natasha Hewitt 127.30Tehryn Lee 138.43
Kaylee Sun 123.29Jonathon Moravec 137.24
Rebecca Schindel 120.52Christopher Manis 132.47
Yaena Nam 120.30Kento Nakashima 129.79
Eva Sicurella 120.10Travis Tran 127.75
Séléna Koster 118.25
Brookelynn Pollock 114.24
 
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For the two singles disciplines, I think the priority for Worlds needs to be securing an olympics spot for Canada via progression to the free. On this basis, I think that SP consistency is the most important thing this year and not total score potential.

At last year's Worlds, the qualification score after the SP was 73.23 for men and 56.82 for women.

For men, Roman and Aleksa Rakic have both achieved that score in two competitions this season and have missed it for three. Wesley has achieved it twice (once only just) and missed it twice. It is difficult to choose between the three of them at the moment.

Among the ladies, Maddie only missed last year's qualification score at Cranberry Cup, which was very early in the season. She has had a few points leeway (or more) in all of her competitions since. Uliana has achieved it in 2/3 competitions, but the one where she missed it was Challenge, which was the most recent. If I was making the selection, I would want comfortable scores at both Nationals and 4CC, to make sure that the Challenge one was just a blip and not a downward trajectory. Katherine Medland-Spence missed the score in her three early season competitions, but did exceed it reasonably comfortably on her two more recent ones. I would want nationals and 4CC scores to confirm that upward trajectory. Kaiya, Fee-Ann and Sara-Maude have been struggling to achieve last year's qualification score in their short programmes this season and, even if they managed to win nationals, I think it would be risky to select them for Worlds this year.

For all of the above, I am basing things on the scores shown on skating scores. This does not include some of the domestic events.
 
Junior Worlds Selection Criteria (page 4)

Spots:
Men - 2
Women - 2
Ice Dance - 2
Pairs - 3

"The HPDC, in consultation with Skate Canada management, will exercise discretion with regard to the relative weight and priority of the Selection Criteria as well as other relevant factors deemed appropriate in their decision-making process and may take into account, in no specific order, the following criteria:
  • Results, scores, skills performed, and age of eligible athletes / teams at the 2024-2025 ISU Junior Grand Prix Series, ISU Jr Grand Prix Final, and ISU International competition in which Skate Canada has selected and nominated the skater(s)
  • Results, scores, skills performed, and age of eligible athletes / teams at the 2025 Canadian Championships. Athletes may be considered from Junior, or Senior categories if they meet the eligibility requirements.
  • Skater / team’s performances trends over the previous 2 years based on total and technical scores achieved.
Competition and Performance Readiness
  • Selected athletes must show competition and performance readiness through an on-ice monitoring session by Skate Canada between February 3 – 14, 2025.
  • Athletes who are injured must receive medical clearance to compete from Skate Canada’s Chief Medical Advisor fourteen days prior to their first event at the 2025 ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships"
Selection Pool:

Junior WomenCTES (min 72)
Reese Rose74.86
Aleksa Volkova*78.10
Hetty Shi83.97
Lulu Lin*97.17
Megan Woodley82.17
Kara Yun87.40
Kaiya Ruiter87.24 (Senior 92.09)
Uliana Shiryaeva77.26 (Senior 93.84)
Breken Brezden72.77 (Senior 77.94)
*not competing at 2025 Nationals

Junior MenCTES (min 80)
Anthony Paradis90.84
David Bondar106.13
Grayson Long101.61
David Li89.09
Parker Heiderich91.86
John Kim87.75
William Chan87.47

Junior PairsCTES (min 63)
Martina Ariano Kent/Charly Laliberte-Laurent83.89
Ava Kemp/Yohnatan Elizarov85.77
Jazmine Desrochers/Kieran Thrasher82.02
Julia Quattrocchi/Simon Desmarais69.19
Noemie Rolland/Etienne Lacasse64.38

Junior Ice DanceCTES (min 71)
Sandrine Gauthier/Quentin Thieren86.96 (Senior 87.71)
Chloe Nguyen/Brendan Giang84.48
Layla Veillon/Alexander Brandys81.80
Aurea Cincon-Debout/Earl Jesse Celestino75.98
Summer Homick/Nicholas Buelow73.72
 
Four Continents Selection Criteria (page 3)

Spots:
Men - 3
Women - 3
Ice Dance - 3
Pairs - 3

"The HPDC, in consultation with Skate Canada management, will exercise discretion with regard to the relative weight and priority of the Selection Criteria as well as other relevant factors deemed appropriate in their decision-making process and may take into account, in no specific order, the following criteria:
  • Medalist at the 2024 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
  • Placement and scores at the 2024 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
  • Season best international score from the 2024-2025 ISU Grand Prix Series, Senior International events and /or ISU Grand Prix Final
  • Demonstration of short and free skate international scores from the current season (2024-2025) for a potential placement in the top three flights at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships.
  • Placement and scores at the 2025 Canadian National Figure Skating Championships
  • Other relevant criteria deemed appropriate for selection.
Competition and Performance Readiness
Athletes who are injured must receive medical clearance to compete from Skate Canada’s Chief Medical Advisor fourteen days prior to their first event at the 2025 ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships"

(NB - Mike Slipchuk has mentioned previously that 4CC will likely be a skate-off for the Men for Worlds again)

World Championships Selection Criteria (page 5)

Spots:
Men - 1
Women - 1
Ice Dance - 3
Pairs - 3

The HPDC, in consultation with Skate Canada management, will exercise discretion with regard to the relative weight and priority of the Selection Criteria as well as other relevant factors deemed appropriate in their decision-making process and may take into account, in no specific order, the following criteria:
  • Medalist at the 2024 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
  • Placement and scores at the 2024 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
  • Season best international score from the 2024-2025 ISU Grand Prix Series, Senior International events and /or ISU Grand Prix Final
  • Placement and scores at the 2025 ISU Four Continents Championships
  • Demonstration of short and free skate international scores from the current season (2024-2025) for a potential placement in the top three flights at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships.
  • Placement and scores at the 2025 Canadian National Figure Skating Championships
  • Other relevant criteria deemed appropriate for selection."
Selection Pool:

Senior MenCTES4CC (86)Worlds (104)
Roman Sadovsky120.01YesYes
Wesley Chiu*130.32YesYes
Stephen Gogolev*126.75YesYes
Aleksa Rakic119.69YesYes
Matthew Newnham93.49YesNo
Edrian Paul Celestino**88.12YesNo
* not competing at 2025 Nationals
** will have sat out one year by the time of 4CC and could be an alternate if no issues with his release


Senior WomenCTES4CC (75)Worlds (90)
Madeline Schizas107.11YesYes
Uliana Shiryaeva**93.84YesYes
Sara-Maude Dupuis94.38YesYes
Fee Ann Landry88.54YesNo
Kaiya Ruiter**92.09YesYes
Katherine Medland Spence97.15YesYes
Breken Brezden**77.94YesNo
Justine Miclette83.23YesNo
** also eligible for Junior Worlds

Senior PairsCTES4CC (75)Worlds (88)
Deanna Stellato-Dudek/Maxime Deschamps116.75YesYes
Lia Pereira/Trennt Michaud103.71YesYes
Kelly-Ann Laurin/Loucas Ethier96.66YesYes
Fiona Bombardier/Benjamin Mimar88.17YesYes

Senior Ice DanceCTES4CC (85)Worlds (94)
Piper Gilles/Paul Poirier125.56YesYes
Marjorie Lajoie/Zachary Lagha118.03YesYes
Marie-Jade Lauriault/Romain Le Gac112.84YesYes
Alicia Fabbri/Paul Ayer104.83YesYes
Nadiia Bashynska/Peter Beaumont98.06YesYes
Lily Hensen/Nathan Lickers93.18YesNo
Alyssa Robinson/Jacob Portz91.52YesNo
 
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Junior/Senior Synchro Worlds Selection Criteria (page 2 - Juniors/page 3 - Seniors):

Junior:

Spots - 2

"The Selection Committee will exercise discretion in considering the relative weight and priority of the selection criteria as well as other relevant factors deemed appropriate in their decision-making process and will take into account, in no specific order, the following criteria:
  • Placement and performances at the 2025 Canadian National Skating Championships.
  • Performances, results, and scores from the 2024-2025 International Synchronized Skating events as assigned by Skate Canada.
  • Performances, results, and scores from 2024-2025 Domestic events.
  • Demonstration of technical and component scores for a potential top 10 world placement.
  • Demonstration of competitive readiness"
Senior:

Spots - 2

"The Selection Committee will exercise discretion in considering the relative weight and priority of the selection criteria as well as other relevant factors deemed appropriate in their decision-making process and will take into account, in no specific order, the following criteria:
  • Placement and performances at the 2025 Canadian National Skating Championships.
  • Performances, results, and scores from the 2024-2025 International Synchronized Skating events as assigned by Skate Canada.
  • Demonstration of technical and component scores for a potential top 10 world placement."
Selection Pool:

Synchro is introducing Combined TES minimums for this season. I'm not going into depth for this since a) they are fairly low at the moment and b) their international season starts a week after Nationals finishes so they could have higher CTES by the time the selections are made. Every Canadian team that competed internationally last season made the minimums, with Les Supremes Senior having 122.77 currently as their CTES.

Junior Synchro CTES - 35
Senior Synchro CTES - 43

Senior Synchro CTES Statistics - https://results.isu.org/isujsstat/CTES/ctessjustsen.htm
Junior Syncrho CTES Statistics - https://results.isu.org/isujsstat/CTES/ctessjustjun.htm
 
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In case any skaters have a good Nationals but haven't gotten an international assignment in the fall, here are the target scores for an international assignment for this season. Skate Canada may choose a Senior B later in the season for them to attend. They could also be selected for a Challenger next season based on their scores at Nationals.

Senior International Selection Criteria:

MenWomenPairsIce Dance
International Benchmark204155152154
Domestic Benchmark219166163165

Junior International Selection Criteria:

Domestic Benchmarks:

Years of EligibilityMenWomenPairsIce Dance
2 or less198163154153
3 or more180155130130
 
At last year's Worlds, the qualification score after the SP was 73.23 for men and 56.82 for women.

For men, Roman and Aleksa Rakic have both achieved that score in two competitions this season and have missed it for three. Wesley has achieved it twice (once only just) and missed it twice. It is difficult to choose between the three of them at the moment.
Hard to believe that Canada may not have a man in the free and therefore not qualify for an entry for the Olympics. I can remember one year that we had no lady entry (due to an injury the year before at worlds), but can not remember when we did not have at least 1 male entry.
 
Hard to believe that Canada may not have a man in the free and therefore not qualify for an entry for the Olympics. I can remember one year that we had no lady entry (due to an injury the year before at worlds), but can not remember when we did not have at least 1 male entry.
It is a genuine possibility. Last year, a fall on a high value element, a couple of poor landings, or going clean but without a quad and/or 3A was enough to take men out of the free. Adam Siao Him Fa only qualified because he was given a high PCS, and I'm not sure he would have done so without his reputation.
 
It's always a possibility that whoever goes may not qualify for the free. But there's still the opportunity to qualify a spot at the qualifying competition if that happens. It's not ideal, but I'm sure Skate Canada would send someone to it if needed. And they could send a man to compete in the team event only if they weren't able to qualify a spot that way.

I'll wait until it gets to that point, whoever goes could rise to the occasion just as much as succumbing to the pressure.
 
If it gets to that point, I'd rather they put the effort into developing the NextGen men over bringing back a retired skater who moved on. They showed a lot of promise at Challenge for the most part and they'll be the ones competing for 2030. It wouldn't solve any issues in the long-term by doing that.
 
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