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He hasn’t said anything about it, and since it is him he won’t say anything about it.

But his fans have suspected he won’t be there from the start because FAOI gives fan meetings this year.

I think he simply decided that it is time to move on and do so.
I hadn't read this hypothesis, nor that there would be a fans meeting, and it makes sense. But would Makabe have imagined a fans meeting without knowing already that Yuzuru Hanyu wouldn't come? I mean, a fans meeting with Yuzuru Hanyu would be extremely difficult to manage, and I'm sure that Makabe knows it?
 
I hadn't read this hypothesis, nor that there would be a fans meeting, and it makes sense. But would Makabe have imagined a fans meeting without knowing already that Yuzuru Hanyu wouldn't come? I mean, a fans meeting with Yuzuru Hanyu would be extremely difficult to manage, and I'm sure that Makabe knows it?

The fan meeting perks is listed on the website even before the performers announcement, so I think it has been confirmed that Yuzu won't be there from the start.

As for why he decided to move on from FAOI, this is my hypothesis, it seems that he wants to reduce fans' financial burden. Yuzu apologized many times for "adding financial burden on fans" when he suddenly added Miyagi stop for RE_PRAY last year.
 
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The fan meeting perks is listed on the website even before the performers announcement, so I think it has been confirmed that Yuzu won't be there from the start.

As for why he decided to move on from FAOI, this is my hypothesis, it seems that he wants to reduce fans' financial burden. Yuzu apologized many times for "adding financial burden on fans" when he suddenly added Miyagi stop for RE_PRAY last year.
This. Plus the ceremonial opening of the new rink in Sendai accompanied by an ice show there. The list of skaters has not been announced yet but everyone is expecting Yuzu to be there, as this is his hometown, and the beloved one, and the date has just been announced for July 5. As FaOI means creating a new programme, and we have no idea what the Sendai show might involve, it might be all just too close in time, both in terms of the skater's effort and financial/travelling burden on his fans.
Plus the exact dates might not have been known yet when they had to make their decisions and there might have been a risk of the dates colliding.
*Note: But this is all speculation, we do not know the real reasons :)
 
This. Plus the ceremonial opening of the new rink in Sendai accompanied by an ice show there. The list of skaters has not been announced yet but everyone is expecting Yuzu to be there, as this is his hometown, and the beloved one, and the date has just been announced for July 5. As FaOI means creating a new programme, and we have no idea what the Sendai show might involve, it might be all just too close in time, both in terms of the skater's effort and financial/travelling burden on his fans.
Plus the exact dates might not have been known yet when they had to make their decisions and there might have been a risk of the dates colliding.
*Note: But this is all speculation, we do not know the real reasons :)

I will be surprised if Yuzu isn't there, tbh. Xebio is something he supported since day one, opposed to JSF's wish to build a new rink in Sendai.

To return to the FAOI topic, there are more changes other than the Russian girls on this year's show. It is more heavily focused on the singer compared to the previous years.

I have always said that the conventional ensemble ice show is losing relevancy nowadays, even in Japan. FAOI managed to survive until now because they had Yuzu, but they have to explore to see if this new model works.
 
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I will be surprised if Yuzu isn't there, tbh. Xebio is something he supported since day one, opposed to JSF's wish to build a new rink in Sendai.

To return to the FAOI topic, there are more changes other than the Russian girls on this year's show. It is more heavily focused on the singer compared to the previous years.

I have always said that the conentional ensemble ice show is losing relevancy nowadays, even in Japan. FAOI managed to survive until now because they had Yuzu, but they have to explore to see if this new model works.
Very true. Could not agree more.
 
This. Plus the ceremonial opening of the new rink in Sendai accompanied by an ice show there. The list of skaters has not been announced yet but everyone is expecting Yuzu to be there, as this is his hometown, and the beloved one, and the date has just been announced for July 5. As FaOI means creating a new programme, and we have no idea what the Sendai show might involve, it might be all just too close in time, both in terms of the skater's effort and financial/travelling burden on his fans.
Plus the exact dates might not have been known yet when they had to make their decisions and there might have been a risk of the dates colliding.
*Note: But this is all speculation, we do not know the real reasons :)
Of course, Yuzuru Hanyu may well have had more precise information earlier than us, but I remember that some months ago, the reopening was planned for "May or June".
I don't know if he's going to participate again in Fantasy on Ice, but for this year, and given the public request from the Mayor (a long time ago) that he should give a show in the renovated arena, I think that for this year, Fantasy on Ice wasn't really possible.
This will give Makabe a way to test his new format.
 
Of course we don't know for sure Makabe's motivation in inviting such or such skater, but I think that we have very good clues of tangible motivations, without recurring to political conspiracies and speculations out of very thin likelihood. Money is a very powerful argument, and here, how is money? Fantasy on Ice is a rather expensive show, and he can't count on the heavy push of JSF on sponsors which Hyoen seems to have benefited of; he was doing very well as long as Yuzuru Hanyu was skating in Fantasy on Ice, because he could sell out large venues at nominal price (without discount). Last year, a good number of Tour B tickets were already sold when it was known for sure that Yuzuru Hanyu wouldn't be there? And there was the money from Tour A, in which Yuzuru Hanyu participated, and that was sold out.

There is/was no heavy push. There was one sponsor with JSF-ties out of three sponsors overall in 2019 and one sponsor out of four in 2021, neither of which were the respective production’s main funder. Since 2019 most of the financial burden is shouldered by Dai’s personal sponsors (above all SkyCourt – a sponsor he acquired through his personal connections with Miwa Nishida), who reinvest some of the revenue he generates for them. And I wouldn’t be surprised, if (part of) the revenue from Ice Explosion and now Kassouya was/is also reinvested in Hyoen (even though this is only speculation on my part).

Meanwhile, Makabe’s shows Dreams on Ice and Medalists on Ice (the official JNationals gala) are basically co-produced by the JSF and share their sponsors with JSF-organized competitions. And while I do not know, if the federation has ever had a hand in the recruitment of sponsors for FaoI as well, I wouldn’t be surprised, given Makabe’s close connections with them. Regardless of if he could count on the federation’s support or not, he shouldn’t have had any problem to attract sponsors, while Yuzuru was FaoI’s main draw (presumably P&G alone did a lot/most of the heavy lifting). However, I agree, without Yuzuru and without a convincing concept how to keep attracting a big enough audience to cover the production costs, this might become more challenging, which is why he currently seems to be scrambling for ideas how to generate more interest.




To return to the FAOI topic, there are more changes other than the Russian girls on this year's show. It is more heavily focused on the singer compared to the previous years.

I have always said that the conventional ensemble ice show is losing relevancy nowadays, even in Japan. FAOI managed to survive until now because they had Yuzu, but they have to explore to see if this new model works.

I don’t expect the “new” direction as currently advertised to be a particularly big hit, tbh. Not only because inviting Russian skaters is pretty controversial and not as welcomed by many as Makabe might have hoped (based on my sns timelines, I can confirm that more than just a handful of Japanese fans seem to be upset with the decision for the reasons KiraraChin mentioned), but also because he doesn’t seem to have a clear vision where he wants to take FaoI. What is planned seems to be neither here nor there and just sounds like a slight variation on what the show has always been, peppered with a touch of what Prince Ice World has been doing with the musical theme for some time now. As for an even bigger focus on music acts… I’d hazard a guess that most figure skating fans don’t want more focus on singers in a classic ensemble ice show (even though it’s nice to see they hired Eliana, who was fantastic in Hyoen last year!) – they want more skating – while fans of the top invited artists prefer to attend the respective artists’ concerts where they get 1 ½ + hours of their music instead of just a handful of songs. Imo, if there is to be a focus on music artists they need to be integrated into an overarching theme, like what PIW does with the Broadway theme and what BIS-F did with the anime theme this year or what Hyoen does by either commissioning new music specifically composed by a well-known musician to tell a story or by creating an original musical out of a popular music artist’s existing back-catalogue. (Although Hyoen is of course not a conventional ensemble ice show and therefore maybe not a suitable comparison nor a model for FaoI to follow.)

I agree with KiraraChin that Makabe relied on Yuzuru for way too long – but also – I’m not sure if at this point any change of direction or even complete overhaul, that does not entirely rely on skating stars (Russian or otherwise), will be able to save FaoI in the long run, should Yuzuru turn his back on the show for good. Given the oversupply of ice shows in Japan, it’s inevitable that some of them will be weeded out sooner or later and the conventional ensemble shows are likely to be the first ones to go. I’m also not convinced that The Ice and Bloom on Ice will be back next year (the former probably depends on Shoma’s plans, though).

But yeah, let’s wait and see – maybe I’ll have to eat my words… :)
 
I don’t expect the “new” direction as currently advertised to be a particularly big hit, tbh. Not only because inviting Russian skaters is pretty controversial and not as welcomed by many as Makabe might have hoped (based on my sns timelines, I can confirm that more than just a handful of Japanese fans seem to be upset with the decision for the reasons KiraraChin mentioned), but also because he doesn’t seem to have a clear vision where he wants to take FaoI. What is planned seems to be neither here nor there and just sounds like a slight variation on what the show has always been, peppered with a touch of what Prince Ice World has been doing with the musical theme for some time now. As for an even bigger focus on music acts… I’d hazard a guess that most figure skating fans don’t want more focus on singers in a classic ensemble ice show (even though it’s nice to see they hired Eliana, who was fantastic in Hyoen last year!) – they want more skating – while fans of the top invited artists prefer to attend the respective artists’ concerts where they get 1 ½ + hours of their music instead of just a handful of songs. Imo, if there is to be a focus on music artists they need to be integrated into an overarching theme, like what PIW does with the Broadway theme and what BIS-F did with the anime theme this year or what Hyoen does by either commissioning new music specifically composed by a well-known musician to tell a story or by creating an original musical out of a popular music artist’s existing back-catalogue. (Although Hyoen is of course not a conventional ensemble ice show and therefore maybe not a suitable comparison nor a model for FaoI to follow.)

The ticket cost is the main issue. Artists fans can get more songs at cheaper price (up to ~60% cheaper) if they simply go to the artists' concert. When Yuzu is there, some of these fans will go to see the unique combination of their fave artist and Yuzu (this happens in Notte Stellata as well). There are many cases of artist fans going to FAOI to watch their fave artist and end up fall in love with Yuzu.
 
The ticket cost is the main issue. Artists fans can get more songs at cheaper price (up to ~60% cheaper) if they simply go to the artists' concert.

That is certainly a corroborating factor.


There are many cases of artist fans going to FAOI to watch their fave artist and end up fall in love with Yuzu.

Yes, that's what often happens at multi-genre shows - in both directions - as could be observed with Hyoen (e.g. Dai fans falling in love with Takuro Ohno and the other way around) and with OPOI too (I think in the case of the latter it was mainly one-way, though).


When Yuzu is there, some of these fans will go to see the unique combination of their fave artist and Yuzu (this happens in Notte Stellata as well).

My point was that Yuzuru isn't at FaoI this year and it seems that the heavier focus on music acts (or in particular on Yu Shirota) is supposed to make up for his absence, which I'm not sure will work out for the various reasons I named above. But I might be proven wrong, of course... Shirota is very popular after all.
 
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My point was that Yuzuru isn't at FaoI this year and it seems that the heavier focus on music acts (or in particular on Yu Shirota) is supposed to make up for his absence, which I'm not sure will work out for the various reasons I named above. But I might be proven wrong, of course... Shirota is very popular after all.
My point is, for artist fans:
Artist + Yuzu = Higher ticket price is ok, this once.
Artist + others = Let’s watch their concert instead.

This is not from this year’s FAOI, but from what I’ve seen from FAOI and Notte Stellata over the years.

Well, perhaps Shirota’s fans will change that perception this year.
 
Ice Crystal opens ticket refund applications from May 2 - 8 for their members. Eligible reason for refund is those affected with concerns over the participating skaters.

 
Ice Crystal opens ticket refund applications from May 2 - 8 for their members. Eligible reason for refund is those affected with concerns over the participating skaters.

This is quite interesting, because, if later Ice Crystal publishes numbers or percentages, we will know how many of their subscribers were (probably) preturbated by the presence of Russian skaters to the point of cancelling their ticket, which is rather near our question here.
 
It must also be noted that there has been some Adam Siao Him Fa fans who wondered on social media whether they can refund their tickets when his withdrawal was announced, so it's not out of the possibility that they will also apply for refund.
 
This is quite interesting, because, if later Ice Crystal publishes numbers or percentages, we will know how many of their subscribers were (probably) preturbated by the presence of Russian skaters to the point of cancelling their ticket, which is rather near our question here.
I hope no lost soul bought tickets expecting Yuzu there this year. There were many signs he would not be there but no official definitive announcement... But if, then they could apply for refund, too, I guess.
 
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I hope no lost soul bought tickets expecting Yuzu there this year. There were many signs he would not be there but no official definitive announcement... But if, then they could apply for refund, too, I guess.
I believe that it was less clear last year than this year, and anyway, I have read (but nothing is certain regarding Ice Crystal, and it may also be a practice of the past; in particular, there had been a waiting list for years to become a member in the previous Olympic cycles, but in the end or 2022 or in 2023, 500 new subscribers were called) that in order to get tickets for shows with Yuzuru Hanyu, subscribers had also to buy tickets for shows where he wasn't skating; so, regarding particularly Ice Crystal, the presence or absence of Yuzuru Hanyu (or Adam Siao Him Fa), skaters whose participation isn't controversial, just making the whole show more or less appealing to some, the number of subscribers requiring a refund seems likely to be low?
 
Spoilers for the content of Faoi this year:


Keiji Tanaka will collaborate with Yu Shirota's live singing:

The ice show "Fantasy on Ice 2025 in MAKUHARI" will feature a special collaboration between Yu Shirota and Keiji Tanaka.

The two will perform a piece titled "Yume no Tane ~ I'll be by your side", where Tanaka will deliver an emotionally rich skating performance accompanied by Shirota’s live singing. Tanaka expressed his excitement, saying that the song is full of meaningful lyrics, which he carefully incorporated into the choreography. He also shared that skating to a live artist’s performance is always nerve-wracking, but having seen Shirota perform in last year’s "Fantasy on Ice," he felt Shirota was a wonderful person and looked forward to creating a program together.

Yuna Aoki and Kazuki Tomono will have a collaboration number:

Additionally, Kazuki Tomono and Yuna Aoki will collaborate on two pieces: "Chopin’s Fantaisie-Impromptu" and an EDM arrangement of Vivaldi's "Four Seasons: Winter".

There seems to be a disco medley group number featuring at least Stéphane Lambiel, Alina Zagitova, Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Guillaume Cizeron, and Nobunari Oda:

Other performers including Stéphane Lambiel, Alina Zagitova, Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Guillaume Cizeron, and Nobunari Oda will energize the floor with a special medley featuring disco hits from the 1970s and 1980s.
 
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From Instagram stories of Anastasia Arkhypova, ensemble skater for Faoi 2022-2024.
 
As I previously speculated and expected, Faoi Makuhari will be broadcasted by TV Asahi the same as last year, with a delayed broadcast at June 7th on CS TV Asahi Channel 2:

 
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