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They're just such a fun team. Charlie, in particular, is such a performer, but he's not far behind her either. Levels were not really leveling (fix that Scott), but the GOEs were great.
So enjoyable.
So enjoyable.
2025 JGP Ankara Rhythm Dance
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I would guess copyright issues may also play a big part for music choices.
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I was completely confused by the music choices for Charlie ANDERSON / Cayden DAWSON (CAN). Because I didn't think any of those songs were from the 90's. I thought the first and third songs were 80's, and the second song was from this side of the Millennium. But, I was wrong.
Never in my days did I think I would ever see anybody skating to "Pretty Fly For A White Guy".
Do not like Cayden's shirt at all. Charlie's matching top and skirt is better, but a bit on the plain side.
They were good.
They go into 2nd position.
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Never in my days did I think I would ever see anybody skating to "Pretty Fly For A White Guy".
Do not like Cayden's shirt at all. Charlie's matching top and skirt is better, but a bit on the plain side.
They were good.
They go into 2nd position.
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Also that it has to be 90s dance? But surely it must have been obvious that some songs were going to be waaaay overpopular (they might be the only ones the skaters and their teams know)
Are you saying the good songs have harsher copyrights requirements than the bad ones?
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Right, that is probably it for my LIVE viewing today. I'm going to watch Free Practice 1 for the Formula 1 now, and then start playing catch-up on the Pairs FS in between it and Free Practice 2.
Enjoy yourselves in Ankara!
CaroLiza_fan
Enjoy yourselves in Ankara!
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bad songs are cheaper would be my guessAre you saying the good songs have harsher copyrights requirements than the bad ones?
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Who knowsAre you saying the good songs have harsher copyrights requirements than the bad ones?
That would make sense. But rather than that I guess teams are choosing music that already been used and edited than looking for sth new with all the job and effort (and money!!!!) that is needed to make it suitable. They just take sth that is easily accessible ready product. Especially junior teams or non-top teams or teams from smaller feds.
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yes... his baby broI thought I heard traces of the "Macarena" during the first section, but convinced myself that I was imagining things.
Then the familiar music started to come through!
Now, THIS is the 90's!
This was more like what I was expecting from the French partnership. Something out there. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Aurea is French.
This is @4everchan's crush's brother, isn't it?
New leaders.
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only 4 for Canada though
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I am curious... in the past, the licenses were blanket licenses... Do skaters have now to buy rights from each artist ? I mean would that mean less programs with 14 pieces cut into a huge RD mess ?
I am all for that you know 
The ISU is requiring clearance rights for songs and has ClickNClear as their preferred platform for it. It's why all the Canadian skaters have been stressed out about their music being cleared in interviews.I am curious... in the past, the licenses were blanket licenses... Do skaters have now to buy rights from each artist ? I mean would that mean less programs with 14 pieces cut into a huge RD mess ?
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can you elaborate ? so no more blanket licenses... skaters have to get their own clearances etc ? i guess i missed a memo somewhere...
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Could mean that yes, the feds arrange the blanket (or not) clearance but the skaters have to confirm with the ISU (via this ClickNClear thing) that it's on the list? Because every skater having to do it themselves would be a sure way to kill the sport even deader.
I'll copy and paste, I'm taking this from the Grand Prix de France announcement for this season (page 7):
"ISU Members/Skaters are reminded to in order for them to use music to accompany their routines, the following ‘Music Accompaniment’ rights/ licenses are required:
● the right to edit or adapt music into a mix, if more than one song is being used.
● the right to set choreography to the music, often referred to as a ‘Grand Right’, which is the right to perform musical compositions and recordings within the context of a "dramatic work” or choreography.
● the right to create any copies of the music that may be needed for training and competition purposes, also known as the ‘mechanical rights’.
In order for a music to be fully cleared for these uses, these rights need to be cleared for each and every track used in each mix that contains a license (backed by a warranty and legal indemnity) for appropriate territory(s) that covers both the master rights of the recording artist and the publishing rights of each individual writer and composer of the track.
There are a number of ways in which ISU Members and their Skaters can legally use or create a music mix to accompany your routine/performance:
1. For easy compliance with the above-mentioned requirements, it is recommended to use commercially released or production music from the ISU approved licensing provider, ISU.ClicknClear.com. Subject to the music being available on the ClicknClear platform for the country where it will be used, it can be licensed instantly. Skaters/Members can access ClicknClear directly through the ISU Portal under the music tab.
2. Use completely original music (specially commissioned) written and/or recorded by a composer and/or artist. If you do this, please ensure you have contractually obtained the relevant rights required. ClicknClear’s License Verification System has an online form that your composer/artist can use to confirm the rights they have granted you.
3. Use music out of copyright (otherwise known as music in the public domain). To be noted that the duration of copyright varies in each country so ISU Members MUST check their local copyright law.
4. Secure a license directly from the owners of the music the Skaters would like to use. In some cases, ClicknClear may be able to assist in the clearance of music not currently available on the ClicknClear platform. However, please note this route may be significantly more expensive, may take significant time, and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome.
The titles, composers and orchestras of the music to be used for the Short Program and Free Skating Program for Single, for the Rhythm and Free Dance Program for Ice Dance and for the Exhibition must all be entered, in detail, by the ISU Member or the Skater(s) on the dedicated ISU platform or through ClicknClear. If music information is not complete and/or the music is not provided, accreditation will not be given."
Domestically it depends on the federation. Skate Canada has their policy here, where for domestic events they're responsible for the license to use the music.
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