2025 Skate to Milano (Olympic Qualifier) | Sep 19-21

[TallyT]

They're all at good times for me. So do I watch the skating or do my uni assignment due this week?

(Umm. I want to cheer on Donovan and Jaekeun and Josefin, quite a few Aussies and others. I also want to get a decent mark. Decisions, decisions...)

 

[aroundtheworld778]

I’m only aware of citizenship issues with Alisa Efimova and Daniil Parkman. Chan and Howe are ranked higher nationally and internationally over Shin and Nagy and, to my knowledge, they are not retired.

I don't think ShinNagy are a bad choice. I think they know they're about number three in the US right now and that if they want to go to the Olympics they need to secure that third spot. Otherwise they battle ChanHowe for the second spot and for that they will need scores close to the 180s anyway. So either way they need to perform and it might as well be now.

 

[saine]

I don't think ShinNagy are a bad choice. I think they know they're about number three in the US right now and that if they want to go to the Olympics they need to secure that third spot. Otherwise they battle ChanHowe for the second spot and for that they will need scores close to the 180s anyway. So either way they need to perform and it might as well be now.

With Shin/Nagy, I don't think USFS really cares about making them perform and earn the spot for themselves. They want the third spot for the sake of having that third spot at the Olympics and being the only federation with three spots in all disciplines. I think before John Nicks, they were seen as the better choice at the time since they had competed in the summer and apparently had done well at Champs Camp. The readiness of other teams was under question until after John Nicks.

It's easier to choose when there's some information. USFS could have had more information to use if they had waited for John Nicks, but they didn't make it part of their criteria apparently. I hope that they rise to the occasion since they are under a lot of pressure to get that spot and are under scrutiny for their selection.

 

[Kittosuni]

athletes and personnel have started arriving and registration is well underway! goodluck everyone!

 

[norwegianfairytale]

athletes and personnel have started arriving and registration is well underway! goodluck everyone!

It’s really nice to see! It’s giving a bit of Olympic vibes. I think it’s nice for the athletes that won’t qualify to get a little of that feeling in Beijing

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

Just to check back with you all, do you see any livestream tiles on the ISU channel yet?

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Just to check back with you all, do you see any livestream tiles on the ISU channel yet?

There is no sign of any on the ISU YouTube channel in the UK yet.

Just in case Ted and Mark had got their location wrong, and to satisfy my own curiosity, I also checked the Olympic YouTube channel. And there isn't any sign there either.

But they are up on the Olympics website.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

The ISU is really late with putting tiles up this season (I know I said this before )so I hope it will happen some time soon.

 

[TontoK]

With Shin/Nagy, I don't think USFS really cares about making them perform and earn the spot for themselves. They want the third spot for the sake of having that third spot at the Olympics and being the only federation with three spots in all disciplines. I think before John Nicks, they were seen as the better choice at the time since they had competed in the summer and apparently had done well at Champs Camp. The readiness of other teams was under question until after John Nicks.

It's easier to choose when there's some information. USFS could have had more information to use if they had waited for John Nicks, but they didn't make it part of their criteria apparently. I hope that they rise to the occasion since they are under a lot of pressure to get that spot and are under scrutiny for their selection.

Agree in parts, disagree in parts.

I don't think USFSA is going after this third spot as some sort of vanity project to have three spots in all disciplines. I think they're doing their job.

I'm skeptical that this will succeed based on what we've seen so far this season. Of course, we aren't privy to what happened at Champs Camp, and maybe they were awesome there. Personally, I think I might have gone with McBeath/Parkman, who have beaten them head to head at Nationals and at John Nicks. But I'm not certain they could have gone, being that Parkman's citizenship issue appears to be an issue.

What is the rule on that anyway? Can a federation send a skater/team to this Olympic qualifier if they aren't eligible for the Olympics?

 

[saine]

Agree in parts, disagree in parts.

I don't think USFSA is going after this third spot as some sort of vanity project to have three spots in all disciplines. I think they're doing their job.

I'm skeptical that this will succeed based on what we've seen so far this season. Of course, we aren't privy to what happened at Champs Camp, and maybe they were awesome there. Personally, I think I might have gone with McBeath/Parkman, who have beaten them head to head at Nationals and at John Nicks. But I'm not certain they could have gone, being that Parkman's citizenship issue appears to be an issue.

What is the rule on that anyway? Can a federation send a skater/team to this Olympic qualifier if they aren't eligible for the Olympics?

I don't think of it as a vanity project for USFS, but I do think any federation would like the feeling of being the only one to qualify the maximum number of spots when they've been cut down. It's something to add to annual reports and meetings so that they can say that they're meeting targets and what a great job they're doing. And I do agree, they are doing their job in going after that spot. It would be foolish not to.

But I don't see them as being invested on using this competition to develop Shin/Nagy long-term since it would be very risky and have blow-back directed at them if they don't qualify the spot. I'd like for them to succeed to avoid that blow-back, but I am skeptical about it too.

The federation doesn't need to send competitors who aren't eligible for the Olympics. I think there are a few who don't have citizenship yet, like Genrikh Gartung for Germany.

 

[saine]

Tiles are up:

Rhythm Dance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8NRPFNAJro
Pairs Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwHoLl0pak
Women Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=211UTKkyxhE
Men Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOLpD9yWqc

Pairs Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AaznUrxHc
Women Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3OvJ0u4Iw
Free Dance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHaW6JanigY
Men Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu19ptTOvcc

 

[Karoltyna]

Ooooof, I'm going to miss both RD and FD

 

[NanaPat]

I saw a time schedule posted, but is that Beijing time? I am trying to convert to EST so I can HOPEFULLY watch this on the ISU channel in the USA. Otherwise, any reliable VPNs out there that won't infect my computer? Thanks for help in advance, really looking forward to get this season started!

It's Bejing. The tiles are up for me; YOUTUBE conveniently gives me the times in my time zone!

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

4 AM on Saturday and Sunday? NO WAY

 

[4everchan]

Tiles are up:

Rhythm Dance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8NRPFNAJro
Pairs Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwHoLl0pak
Women Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=211UTKkyxhE
Men Short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOLpD9yWqc

Pairs Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AaznUrxHc
Women Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3OvJ0u4Iw
Free Dance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHaW6JanigY
Men Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu19ptTOvcc

with the time difference... i think i will only watch the RD and the pairs Free... if even. solves a lot of dilemma in my mind about this event.

 

[Ruthypegs]

apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but...

if an AIN athlete/team gets a place at the Beijing event, but subsequently withdraws, what happens to the place - does it go to the next placed athlete/team (e.g. the man or woman who came sixth, the pairs team that came fourth, the ice dance team that came fifth)?

 

[saine]

The USFS Fan Zone has an article on Shin/Nagy (here) and it does confirm the Champs Camp selection process:

Observers at Champs Camp, held in Norwood, Massachusetts, in August, agreed with Duhamel. A simulated pairs competition, with complete technical panel equipment, technical panel and judges was held. Shin and Nagy won both the short program and free skate events.

"We communicated to our entire pairs community that the simulation at Champs Camp would lead to the qualifying spot," Dillon said. "When they won, Audrey and Balazs were selected."

And also Justin Dillon getting bragging rights:

"It's amazing we're getting the chance to try to slate a full team," Justin Dillon, U.S. Figure Skating senior director of athlete high performance, said. "We are the only country with the chance to do so, which is exciting.[...]"

 

[Jumping_Bean]

apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but...

if an AIN athlete/team gets a place at the Beijing event, but subsequently withdraws, what happens to the place - does it go to the next placed athlete/team (e.g. the man or woman who came sixth, the pairs team that came fourth, the ice dance team that came fifth)?

Yes, exactly. There are no AIN pairs or dance teams, so it only affects singles and consequently the spot would go to the country in 6th at the Olympic Qualifying competition (or 7th or lower if other countries or the other AIN athlete also return their spots).

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

4 AM on Saturday and Sunday? NO WAY

And 3am here!

Much as I want to see my local skater in the Men's SP, and my kids from Cyprus and Spain in the Free Dance live...

No way, José!

(See what I did there? )

I'll watch those competitions after the live action is over for the day, and hope Ted and Mark don't give any spoilers in the meantime.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Karoltyna]

with the time difference... i think i will only watch the RD and the pairs Free... if even. solves a lot of dilemma in my mind about this event.

At least you'll see RD. Will you be so kind and cheer for my kiddos? Their best result places them around 8-10th place, but I still have some faint hope.