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What a horribly dissatisfying event. In other circumstances I would feel bad for Ilia, Yuma, Adam, Kevin, etc., but for ALL of them to implode like that? It’s frankly embarrassing for all of them and for the sport. Like I honestly think everyone involved in men’s skating should be ashamed of themselves. It makes me think there is something seriously wrong with scoring system—it is not incentivizing good skating, it is incentivizing luck of the splatfest. There needs to be some serious soul searching among male skaters, coaches, judges, and regulators.

Good lord. Have you ever competed in anything in your life where it didn't go ideal or to plan?

Now pretend that competition is even remotely as important or as pressured packed as the Olympics — in a sport that is difficult AF.

The men aren't the ones who should be ashamed of themselves.
 
This is men’s figure skating now. It happens literally all the time. The GP on the whole was badly skated (Skate America anyone) and Europeans was a flaming dumpster fire. (You think it can’t get any worse than today….I can assure you it has been worse).

That is why I say it’s demoralizing. The winners are end to end jumpers because it easier to jump all of those quads without anything in between holding you back. The ones that actually try choreography, transitions, and spend their energy on good spins fall apart because that’s actually HARD to do when they also have to jump quads.

This is why Nathan, Hanyu, and Shoma are GOATS but unfortunately they’re retired and we are left with whatever this is.

Skaters will have their ups and downs.

The FS of the grand prix final in 2025 just a few months ago was very well skated (and poorly skated by Shaidorov). https://www.isuresults.com/results/...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

FYI they're also ALL spending energy on good spins. There is this myth that if you're training multiple quads you're somehow throwing spins and transitions and choreo to the wayside. Kevin Aymoz, one of the best artistically, had only two quad attempts (one tripled, one solo quad), and yet he had poor spins (including a V) and messed up easy triples and was artistically substandard for him - just having a bad competition. These are human athletes.

The 2014 Olympics FS was one of the worst freeskates of any Olympics but that was one competition. https://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Men_FS_Scores.pdf Yet 2013 GPF FS prior to that was one of the cleanest. https://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1314/gpf1314_Men_FS_Scores.pdf

I'm actually in agreement with people who say the break between SP and FS was unorthodox and messed with the men's usual competition scheduling. Not an excuse but potentially a reason. I don't know who came up with the schedule for this but to put the team men's events on Feb 7 and Feb 8 and then to put the men's events (one of the most demanding) on Feb 11 and 13 - didn't do a whole lot of favours (although some skaters like Fa and Shaidorov were fresh).

Can assure you - it's way easier to do 1-2 quads with good spins and transitions than do programs with 4-5 quads with okay spins and fewer transitions.
 
Yes, I heard and saw Elia say that if he had been in Beijing four years ago, he would've skated better. I feel for him, I really do. It must've been a crushing skate for him. But I don't think it's necessarily true. And it's not like we have a time machine or anything.

I do hope he talks to Nathan, Chen or Kurt, Browning.

I wonder if Ilia will stick around for another four years. Other than this Event, he's pretty much won everything
Olympic failure/coming up short did wonders for careers like Asada's and Kwan's, and Chen.

Also, I know this was a nightmare FS for him, but he can still hold his head up for helping the team secure a gold medal and having the top scoring FS of these Olympics.

I'm certain he'll be back to contend for gold in a few years, but who's to say what the state of US skating will be in the next quadrennial, so at least he can still say he got a gold for not just himself but his teammates at this Olympics.
 
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Hi, I’m American and I can assure you that Stephen was actually under marked for what he put out there today. He has improved his spins and choreography tremendously. His step sequence was one of the best of the entire night. On top of the required turns to achieve the highest level, it was packed full of difficult transitions and movements which he executed flawlessly to the music. His spins were very very good and he carried the performance level through the entire duration of the program. He never ran out of energy or stopped emoting. His choreography was intentional. He, his team, and Skate Canada should be very proud.

Shaidorov deserved his win there’s no question, he was the best all around athlete, but Stephen received higher component scores because he was very much better on that side of the sport.
Totally agree re Gogolev- he was fantastic and, to surprise to myself, his skate really touched my heart.
 
It was really weird because most of the men's team programs, and a lot of the short programs a few nights ago, were excellent.
The schedule was horrible. In no other competition do the men do a SP, wait 2 days, and then do a FS.

While I'm glad it helped Deanna, it makes no sense for pairs to be 3rd individual event and yet they were done on the 2nd day of the team event.

Not sure who came up with the schedule but they deserve to be never heard of again, along with the other notable superstar decision makers (Nicholas Russell, Jezabel Dabouis, etc.) of this Olympics in figure skating.
 
I have been offline until about 2 hours ago due to my modem quitting on me. I missed the entire Men's FS and frankly am so weary after chasing around town trying to get a new modem,
then tolerating multiple phone calls in order to get back online that I don't have time just now to read all these posts. I saw the results--congrats to all the medalists! And several more did great free programs from the looks of things. Just am wondering what happened to Ilia, and is he all right? I worry about him--having a bad skate can happen to the best of skaters, but---not THAT bad, unless injury. illness or boot/blade issues occurred.

Last night, it was my UPS battery backup that quit on me. Luckily I had a new, unused one so am using that--hopefully it'll keep working. I'm ready to tear my hair out over so many things going wrong at once which have been expensive to fix--won't mention the non PC related incidents which cost another $3,000 on to of the PC mess. But I have had it, am ill and worn down, and just plain too old for this kind of nonsense.

Don't think I have any way to watch the Men's now--I was watching skating thru the German channel using my VPN. To my knowledge all those events were/are live only. If anyone knows otherwise, could you please let me know?

Sorry for the length of this post--but I am concerned about Ilia and would appreciate some kind of response. Thank you.
Replays are available on Peacock if you have it.
 
I wonder if Yuma is kicking himself thinking he had the chance for the gold and I blew it. He could've skated a relatively clean program with a couple of bobbles or maybe just a fall and still win overall.
Evan Lysacek also bombed his short in 2006, but redeemed himself in the free, finishing 4th. Well, we know what happened in 2010.
 
Sorry posters, this is a duplicate post from the replay lounge! Delete if needed.

Here is my take on Ilia's skating issues and hopefully does not come across as a conspiracy theory! :fear:
This started in the team events, when he skated well enough but not up to the over-hyped Ilia standard. Something was up.... Then Rafael Arutunian was called and received an "emergency clearance" to come to Milan and help coach Ilia, in addition to the fact that Ilia was not practicing at the Olympic practice venue, but at another location in Italy (I also remember reading that the ladies were practicing off-site, so this may be insignificant). I think that maybe Ilia "lost" his jump/quad abilities, similar to the Simone Biles "twisties" issue that caused her to drop out of the 2020 Olympics. Hence, Raf showing up and the off-site practices kept this development under wraps. When Ilia came off the ice in the short program, i could hear Raf saying something like "Yes?? The technique worked." I really think Ilia just temporarily "lost" his ability to do jumps beyond a double, much less being able to jump quads. His popping jumps and falling on the ice were so VERY UNCHARACTERISTIC of him, that something else other than Olympic nerves was going on. Anyways, just my layman's opinion of what may have happened.
Whatever is going on I don’t think it’s like the twisties. The twisties keep one from knowing where they are they are in the air. He wouldn’t have landed any jumps if he had the twisties. Simone wanted to defend her OGM. She didn’t want to withdraw, but she literally could have died if she continued.
 
I have been offline until about 2 hours ago due to my modem quitting on me. I missed the entire Men's FS and frankly am so weary after chasing around town trying to get a new modem,
then tolerating multiple phone calls in order to get back online that I don't have time just now to read all these posts. I saw the results--congrats to all the medalists! And several more did great free programs from the looks of things. Just am wondering what happened to Ilia, and is he all right? I worry about him--having a bad skate can happen to the best of skaters, but---not THAT bad, unless injury. illness or boot/blade issues occurred.

Last night, it was my UPS battery backup that quit on me. Luckily I had a new, unused one so am using that--hopefully it'll keep working. I'm ready to tear my hair out over so many things going wrong at once which have been expensive to fix--won't mention the non PC related incidents which cost another $3,000 on to of the PC mess. But I have had it, am ill and worn down, and just plain too old for this kind of nonsense.

Don't think I have any way to watch the Men's now--I was watching skating thru the German channel using my VPN. To my knowledge all those events were/are live only. If anyone knows otherwise, could you please let me know?

Sorry for the length of this post--but I am concerned about Ilia and would appreciate some kind of response. Thank you.
What you need to do is look for "re-live".

 
This is men’s figure skating now. It happens literally all the time. The GP on the whole was badly skated (Skate America anyone) and Europeans was a flaming dumpster fire. (You think it can’t get any worse than today….I can assure you it has been worse).

That is why I say it’s demoralizing. The winners are end to end jumpers because it easier to jump all of those quads without anything in between holding you back. The ones that actually try choreography, transitions, and spend their energy on good spins fall apart because that’s actually HARD to do when they also have to jump quads.

This is why Nathan, Hanyu, and Shoma are GOATS but unfortunately they’re retired and we are left with whatever this is.
Of the 3 you mentioned who are "unfortunately . . .retired", respectfully, I believe you are remembering at least 2 of them as they finally turned out. I remember seriously disliking everything about Hanyu's skating up to and including his 1st Olympics performances. He was nothing but a jumping bean back in the beginning. I thought the sport had gone to heck and would never recover! To a lesser, and shorter span extent, Nathan was the same. They both became incredible skaters and more than deserve the fans' adulation, but not in the earlier years. I admit I always had a soft spot for Shoma, so I'm not sure I remember his earlier years objectively, but I'll leave him out of what I said about the others. I do still often think the emphasis on the jumps is misplaced, but I'm not as pessimistic as I once was.
 
I wonder if Yuma is kicking himself thinking he had the chance for the gold and I blew it. He could've skated a relatively clean program with a couple of bobbles or maybe just a fall and still win overall.
Evan Lysacek also bombed his short in 2006, but redeemed himself in the free, finishing 4th. Well, we know what happened in 2010.
Evan Lysacek was skating with a high fever and severe flu symptoms during his SP in `06. He had to have IV fluids and stuff to recover for the LP. So, definitely not the same thing.
 
4A was a bad idea, but it’s hard to take out content on the fly. You don’t know what to take out because all the other jumps are easy for you in normal circumstances. Once things started going bad, he did need the quads and couldn’t find them. He’ll have to plan better next time because he actually accrued a good amount of points on the quads he did. He just lost a ton on pops and falls where other guys got more points doing triples. That popped 4Acould have been a 3A giving him 10+ more points.
Plus, if I'm remembering the order of things correctly, he landed the 1st quad and probably felt all was well, so decided to go for the 4 Axel even though thinking he didn't need it. I think he was tight from the get go, maybe because it looked like he could walk to the gold, and when he singled the axel it so thoroughly shocked him that he couldn't recover.
I saw that Nathan was there; I hope he can talk to Ilia remembering back to his own disaster of a 1st Olympics. Might give Ilia some perspective.
4A was a bad idea, but it’s hard to take out content on the fly. You don’t know what to take out because all the other jumps are easy for you in normal circumstances. Once things started going bad, he did need the quads and couldn’t find them. He’ll have to plan better next time because he actually accrued a good amount of points on the quads he did. He just lost a ton on pops and falls where other guys got more points doing triples. That popped 4Acould have been a 3A giving him 10+ more points.
 
Shaidorov made history with his 3A+EU+4S at worlds 2025 being the only male to ever do it. Today, he is now the first male to do it on Olympic ice. The point score from it gave him a whopping 21.39 on the first element alone today. Part of being a great competitor is rising to the challenge under pressure - he did. Good for him. He won silver at Worlds 2025 because he didn't cave under pressure either. Winning isn't simply what jumps you do on the ice, it is having a superior state of mind.

Congrats to Mikhail.




He started his diatribe with the word, Beijing by name. I was stunned at such a display of poor sportsmanship and the unwillingness to hold himself accountable. I was sympathetic until he blamed "they" for not sending him and clearly saying this would not have happened. Johnny Weir made it perfectly clear what was said which made it even worse. Other people had a rough day today and they didn't blame anyone else,

This was Shaidorov's first OLYG as well. Congrats again to Mikhail.
I didn't like that comment from Ilia either, but come on, it was said right after the shocking disaster. He's a kid. Did you keep watching after that? When Ilia and his coaches were free to leave the Kiss and Cry, Ilia went directly over to Shaidorov and congratulated him, It wasn't just a perfunctory hand shake and walk off either, he stood and talked with him for some time. That's more sportsmanship than some older NFL players show to each other!
 
But it's an athletic competition first and foremost
It's not supposed to be. Not in the sense of just doing grunt work to win.

The score is supposed to be equally split between technical and artistic. Until the sport gets back to that fundamental state, it will only ever be a shadow of itself.

Shaidorov winning wouldn't be a thing if everyone wasn't forced to try and throw a minimum of 4 quads and all kinds of other unnecessary convoluted moves in order to be competitive. Adam or Yuma in a different world would've been satisfied with going for a 2-3 quad skate, knowing the artistic mark will be enough if they skate clean and perform the hell out of the program. But the artistry is no longer worth enough, and it's also nearly impossible to reach the level of artistry that deserves those kinds of marks anymore, since people are too busy doing clunky spin positions and ugly turns on the ice.

Stephen was actually under marked for what he put out there today.
Nah. His body lines aren't good enough yet and he doesn't have the ability to fully embody the music yet. His second 4Sal was also not fully complete, but they didn't call it. The PCS judging here actually showed minor improvement over what the judges have been doing normally. Like for example, Kagiyama scored "only" 85, when his similarly flawed LP at Worlds last year scored 87. They need to keep going in this direction, because there's a hell of a difference between what people did today, and have been doing in general the past 8 years, and what a '10' on PCS is supposed to be.
 
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