+5 / -5 GOE: All others 'historical'
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I think it makes sense. 
Also the highest score progression is going to be fun to watch.
Also the highest score progression is going to be fun to watch.
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He will probably take this as another personal challenge.... but it's great that his amazing record of, well, records is now fixed and recognised forever
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He will probably take this as another personal challenge.... but it's great that his amazing record of, well, records is now fixed and recognised forever
Historical is Yuzu's middle name didn't you know.
ISU really wants some new faces at the top it seems !
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I hate that the ISU ever pushed WR as a meaningful metric for anything. In addition to rule changes, the same program can garner vastly different scores based on factors outside the performance, such as the location of the event and composition of the judging and technical panels.
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I'm actually pleased that Aljona and Bruno will keep their records forever...but I'm not surprised by this development. They did the same to ice dance when the compulsories were abolished, and the changes are rather big this time for all disiciplines. Could be motivational for a couple like Papadakis/Cizeron I should think.
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I do not believe that the ISU has ever actually recognized World Records; skating fans and Wikipedia did that.
IJS is supposed to be largely objective and technical callers and judges are supposed to follow the same standards, and as the ISU insists the system works as it is supposed to, location and panel composition aren’t hugely meaningful across the same level. The main difference is the level of competition; whether it needs ISU judges or International judges.
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Like On the Ice, I disagree with drivingmissdaisy (and I do like the choice of name), I agree that it wasn't the ISU promoting the World Record thing. We do - as in giving input to wikipedia and other places where records are stored. Nothing to hate the ISU for, they were clear about this from the beginning. I get the criticism of the ISU, but this issue isn't one of them. I can even understand hate (although to me that's a really strong expression which I can't condone ever), but please put hatred where it belongs - this time it's us. Fans. We wished to make it World Records = and information on Wikipedia reflects that. The ISU is not a culprit this time. And yes, I am in favour of what they are doing now. Still pleased my beloved pair will keep their records forever now - even if they're not strictly speaking world records. Haha.
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Well yeah, but every existing sport is dependable of those factors (more or the less), so... Cause i know, even the jump in the long jump could be different based on a simple outside conditions, as a height of geographical location where the jump is occur...
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I think media helped to create this obsession for world records, it helps selling the sport for the casual audience, who wants to see young prodigies making history, breaking world records in dramatic narratives (e.g. Alina and Evgenia during the Olympics).
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The WR scores are available on the ISU site: http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/historicbefore1819/phslto.htm
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The media definitely have a hand (listening to all the different commentators on each of Yuzu's, they throw the words "world record' and "highest ever" around like confetti pretty much every time, and I imagine it's the same with the other disciplines, they know people will hear and be excited by it) and they do it because the fans love them. The ISU may not promote them, may even say there are no such things, but surely they know the rest of the world are not going to listen.... so they sort of put them up anyway, without using the words "world record"
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No, ISU's only ever recognized season's best scores.
To be honest, that's why this statement is odd. Because to me, nothing changes, really. WRs already didn't exist for ISU.
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They always kept a running stat on all time scores. You could go thru and look at them on the ISU’s page but they didn’t refer to them as World Records but instead as Personal Best scores. They did rank them from highest score to lowest so it’s like a list of the highest scores of all time. Here is the list of highest total score which is now in the historical records but they also have links to highest SP and FS.
http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/historicbefore1819/pbslto.htm
I agree though that they are useless. People still argued over them a lot anyway
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I swear figure skating is the only sport who is sensitive to the terms world record to the point they dissect the words bits by bits like "it's not world record it's only personal best etc.." or "ISU said its highest score but not world records they never recognize the world records etc..." or "they are useless anyway because in ISU it was never a real world record just a personal best nothing to do with others" Why are people so eager to downgrade the implication of those words. It's simple enough, does that highest score ever achieved by anyone else in the world? No? Then it's a world record. Don't be scared of saying the words like it was VOLDERMORT. 
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Those are not WR scores. That is the progression of highest scores— and the criteria for inclusion on that list must be a little odd, because there are discrepancies with some of the instances when the scores were set in the same competition.
If one scrolled down to the bottom of the ISU’s statistics page, they would see the following:
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I swear figure skating is the only sport who is sensitive to the terms world record to the point they dissect the words bits by bits like "it's not world record it's only personal best etc.." or "ISU said its highest score but not world records they never recognize the world records etc..." or "they are useless anyway because in ISU it was never a real world record just a personal best nothing to do with others" Why are people so eager to downgrade the implication of those words. It's simple enough, does that highest score ever achieved by anyone else in the world? No? Then it's a world record. Don't be scared of saying the words like it was VOLDERMORT.
Because it doesn't make sense lol. Don't get me wrong, I'll play along, but that's all I'll be doing, not actually thinking "oh that's a real record". Much like if someone told me the earth is flat, I'll smile and nod, and move on.
