Adult Returning Skater: Risport Royal Prime or Edea Concertos

[Mochipeachy]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with these two brands of skates.

I have been fitted and have been advised that an Edea 245D would fit me very snugly as in the tip of my toes would push against the front of the boot, but the other option is to get a 250C... Does anyone have any experience or exact measurement of Edea width?

After reading some forums I gathered that the Risport Royal Primes are similar in the ankle support where its rounder like Edea but they would be wider toebox despite being a narrow fit (B). Would this mean that a Risport B width = Edea D width?

I was looking into getting a 250B Risport Royal Prime but they are out of sizes... so I was wondering maybe just to get the Risport Royal Pros instead or get them in 250C... but I worry that they will be too lose... as my larger foot measures exactly 245 but smaller foot measures 239...

Would really appreciate if anyone have any input for Royal Pros vs Royal Prime, as well as width measurements for both Edea and Risport...

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with these two brands of skates.

I have been fitted and have been advised that an Edea 245D would fit me very snugly as in the tip of my toes would push against the front of the boot, but the other option is to get a 250C... Does anyone have any experience or exact measurement of Edea width?

After reading some forums I gathered that the Risport Royal Primes are similar in the ankle support where its rounder like Edea but they would be wider toebox despite being a narrow fit (B). Would this mean that a Risport B width = Edea D width?

I was looking into getting a 250B Risport Royal Prime but they are out of sizes... so I was wondering maybe just to get the Risport Royal Pros instead or get them in 250C... but I worry that they will be too lose... as my larger foot measures exactly 245 but smaller foot measures 239...

Would really appreciate if anyone have any input for Royal Pros vs Royal Prime, as well as width measurements for both Edea and Risport...

HI and welcome.

What is your skill level? Foot type? Height/weight?

 

[Mochipeachy]

Hi

I'm around Freestyle 3, with Greek style foot and weigh 57-58kg.

Currently I'm in a pair of Edea Concertos 245C, they are somewhat comfortable but I would like a half size up for the length as I'm not used to the exact fit... and width wise it needed expanding plus I feel my heel slipping without doing anything to it... which is why I thought of changing brands.

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Hi

I'm around Freestyle 3, with Greek style foot and weigh 57-58kg.

Currently I'm in a pair of Edea Concertos 245C, they are somewhat comfortable but I would like a half size up for the length as I'm not used to the exact fit... and width wise it needed expanding plus I feel my heel slipping without doing anything to it... which is why I thought of changing brands.

With a Greek style foot you need to look at Risport RF3 Pro. Edea isn't made for your foot shape and isn't going to fit right.


Good luck!

 

[Mochipeachy]

With a Greek style foot you need to look at Risport RF3 Pro. Edea isn't made for your foot shape and isn't going to fit right.


Good luck!

Ohhh thank you for the suggestion!

I was wondering would you happen to know the width of Risports? I'm thinking if I would need a narrow (B) fit or normal (C) fit... abit paranoid now because of the Edeas I own and I can only get them online as my local seller doesn't have stock for the next 2-3 months...

Would you suggest Royal Pros instead or what are the major difference between the RF and royal line in your opinion?

 

[Diana Delafield]

Ohhh thank you for the suggestion!

I was wondering would you happen to know the width of Risports? I'm thinking if I would need a narrow (B) fit or normal (C) fit... abit paranoid now because of the Edeas I own and I can only get them online as my local seller doesn't have stock for the next 2-3 months...

Would you suggest Royal Pros instead or what are the major difference between the RF and royal line in your opinion?

Risports come in AA, B or C widths. My RF1 boots are AA, but I have very narrow feet.

I'm sure @Ic3Rabbit can tell you about other design differences in the way they fit, but for me the first consideration was that the RF line are all leather while the Royal line incorporates synthetic materials. I want my boots to be leather throughout, although I'm sure if I continue to skate long enough all boots will become synthetic and I'll have to put up with that .

Ordering online is not really recommended, although I sympathize with the long wait. You'll still have to take them to your skate shop for molding and to have the blades attached, and it then becomes almost impossible to return them if you find your feet don't like them after all. The company won't take them back, and the skate shop won't if you didn't buy from them. Can your budget cope with two pairs of skates in a short time if the online-puchased ones don't work for you?

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Ohhh thank you for the suggestion!

I was wondering would you happen to know the width of Risports? I'm thinking if I would need a narrow (B) fit or normal (C) fit... abit paranoid now because of the Edeas I own and I can only get them online as my local seller doesn't have stock for the next 2-3 months...

Would you suggest Royal Pros instead or what are the major difference between the RF and royal line in your opinion?

With what you need in the toebox go with the RF3 Pro. The Royal Pro is going to be too much like Edea in the toebox aka not wide enough.

Try the stock boot I've suggested if the heel isn't narrow enough you may need a split width boot in the Risport.

And where are you in this world? I (we) can suggest a proper in person fitter. Do not order online.

 

[tuleytoes]

With what you need in the toebox go with the RF3 Pro. The Royal Pro is going to be too much like Edea in the toebox aka not wide enough.

Try the stock boot I've suggested if the heel isn't narrow enough you may need a split width boot in the Risport.

And where are you in this world? I (we) can suggest a proper in person fitter. Do not order online.

From my experience, the Royals have a slightly rounder toe and the RF3s are a more pointed shape. I have a wider toe box, so I prefer the fit of the Royals, but I still wear the RF3s because I like the more traditional collar. The good thing for me is that both boots can be punched and stretched in the toe area! Probably more effectively than Edeas, which I've heard might return to their original shape after punching.

That said, the Royal Pros do kinda remind me a bit of Edeas in terms of feel, since the collar doesn’t fully wrap around the ankle.

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

You like what you like and fit depending on your foot.

But as a long time Risport skater, I'll agree to disagree and move on.

 

[tuleytoes]

You like what you like and fit depending on your foot.

But as a long time Risport skater, I'll agree to disagree and move on.

Being a long time Risport skater doesn’t mean much compared to wearing or seeing the current Royal Pro and RF3 Pro side by side. I know what I like, sure, but recommending the RF3 with “the Royal Pro is going to be too much like Edea in the toebox, aka not wide enough,” is weird. From my recent experience (and others like the person I quoted below), the toebox difference is pretty minimal. The biggest differences are in the collar design and lacing system, and that’s what OP should really focus on (and how they feel personally) when deciding between the two if they even want to go with one of them after trying them on.

If it really does “depend on your foot,” then it’s really not as straightforward as saying, “You have Egyptian or Greek feet and high arches, so for your level you should only try these 2 boots.” I have wide Roman feet and low arches, but Risport has been far better for me than the brands usually recommended for my foot type. Honestly, the only real answer is to try on all the boots that match your level/weight if you can and go with what feels right. Sometimes that means spending money and realizing one might not work once you're on the ice for some time. But hey, what do I know? I’m just a lowly non-pro skater

The Royal Pro has several of the same fit and design characteristics as the Edea boots, but it is not narrow like an Edea. I tried on the Royal Pro, the RF3 Pro, and the Edea Chorus when I was fitted a year ago, all in the same size (265C). The Royal and RF3 were pretty close in fit, but the Royal definitely has a rounder toebox. The Chorus fit significantly differently from the Risport boots. The toe on the Chorus is more tapered, they were uncomfortably tight throughout the instep, and they didn't accommodate my low arches well at all. If the Royal Pro were that narrow I never would have bought them!

 

[Diana Delafield]

Honestly, the only real answer is to try on all the boots that match your level/weight if you can and go with what feels right. Sometimes that means spending money and realizing one might not work once you're on the ice for some time. But hey, what do I know? I’m just a lowly non-pro skater

That might be fine for someone with plenty of money to waste on expensive experiments. For those of us on real-life budgets, taking the advice of longtime professionals in the field is a more sensible action.

 

[IceM]

After reading some forums I gathered that the Risport Royal Primes are similar in the ankle support where its rounder like Edea but they would be wider toebox despite being a narrow fit (B). Would this mean that a Risport B width = Edea D width?

Risport B width is definitely narrower than Edea D. Edea C and Risport C are similar in width, the latter perhaps slightly wider in both the ankle and the toebox (at least when comparing Royal Prime and Ice Fly, which I have both in the same size for comparison). The heel slippage is a bit alarming, perhaps you have very narrow ankles? In that case, Risport B or even Edea B might be an option, with widening the toebox to fit (as you go up the width, also the ankle width increases, as neither brand comes in split width or custom, so people with narrow ankles and wide toeboxes can't just go up a width). And of course, I'm assuming that you are tying your boots properly, and not trying to compensate the boot stiffness with loose lacing or anything like that.

In terms of sizing, the only difference between Edea size 245/250 is that there's less padding/more upper material, the sole size stays the same, and goes up only every other two sizes in Edeas. So, it's pretty safe to go size up to 250, in Edeas at least.

In terms of the actual fit, I agree with the above that the only way to know is to try them with a fitter. Fit based on foot types are only general guidance, not a guarantee that a boot fits you, as there are far more variables than just your general foot type. You should probably try the RF3 Pro like suggested as well. The new RF1 should be similar to the RF3 Pro, just stiffer, like the Prime.

As to Royal Pro/Prime comparison, if you're coming from Concertos, then the Pros will be significantly softer boots, while the Primes will be similar in stiffness, or just slightly stiffer, than your Concertos. And the same goes for the RF3 Pro/RF1.

Hope that helps, and good luck!