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Advertising on competition clothes

jan.zilka

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As you may have noticed, the 2024 ISU Congress in Las Vegas lifted the previous ban on placing advertisements directly on the competition dresses and jerseys of figure skaters during competition programs. The proposed change was placed on the agenda on May 21, 2024, about two weeks before the start of the Congress, among the other twenty-one urgent topics.

However, the newly permitted advertising on dresses must not be too large. It may occupy an area of no more than 30 cm2. This corresponds to a rectangle of 5x6 cm (2x2 1/4 ") or a circle with a diameter of about 6 cm (2 1/4"). Outside of competition, i.e. from the moment the skater leaves the ice, in the Kiss-n-Cry zone, in the mix zone, and during official training and on the ice, they may continue to wear up to 6 pieces of such advertising signs or texts. Each one can be up to 60 cm2 in size, which corresponds to a rectangle of 8 x 7.5 cm (about 3x3").

In contrast to these tiny advertisements, have you noticed how large the advertisements on their jerseys are that hockey players, biathletes and cyclists have? Can you think of any connection? I personally have the feeling that the officials have finally been convinced and are heading in the right direction. It's probably not much, a drop in the ocean, but thanks for it. Figure skating needs a lot of rain, more like waterfalls of rain. I would leave it up to the teams and the athletes themselves to decide whether and how large the advertisements will be on them. If the ISU feels that there is not enough money going into figure skating and interest in our sport is declining, this is, in my opinion, one of the possible ways to open the closed doors and stir up the stagnant waters.

Anyone planning to do this? I mean to skate short or free with an advertising on your clothes? And BTW, could it be advertising of leterally anything, or just clothing manufacturers? This is not very clearly formulated in the new rule wording IMHO.
 
I read that "Snapdragon" recently signed a deal with Manchester United for the right to put their logo in large letters right in the center of the players' chests, $ U.S. 75 million per year. (Logo on the sleeve is not quite so expensive.)

This seems strange to me because Snapdragon is a producer of computer chips -- not the sort of thing that might make the average football fan rush to the store to buy some.
 
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I cannot see how this would work, at least in the US.

No American company is going to pay any kind of serious, or even token, money for a two inch circle on a skating dress. This isn't Jalen Hurts wearing Air Jordans for a three hour game. Maybe skaters somewhere else can make some coin 🤷‍♀️

And it would completely detract from the program for those of us who care about continuity and expression and all those sorts of things.
 
This is getting ridiculous. I can understand Nike and other companys that provide equipment and are in the business of doing that. I'll yak the first time I see GoDaddy or Campbell's Soup.
The problem is skaters don’t usually compete in clothes made by Nike. Like the entire point of skating costumes is that they are unique.

This also seems like it could get messy, especially since I’m pretty sure the Olympics doesn’t allow advertising/logos except for the national logo and a manufacturer. Even top athletes who are sponsored by one company have to wear the other for the Olympics in certain scenarios.

Again, apart from being a terrible idea, it seems like it would just be creating a mess, and I don’t think skating needs anymore messes. Next thing you know, someone gets angry and now all skaters have to wear solid black with nothing on it lol.
 
From how they talked about it at Congress last year, they wanted a Vera Wang logo on the costume if Vera Wang designed it. Those are the manufacturer markings that they're looking for, not Nike logos.
 
From how they talked about it at Congress last year, they wanted a Vera Wang logo on the costume if Vera Wang designed it. Those are the manufacturer markings that they're looking for, not Nike logos.
Then they had better make it clear... or we will get open slather. (Who does Vera Wang design for at the minute?)

On the other hand, maybe a 6cm dot from Nike (Walmart, Maccas, the local sportsgear shop) that hardly anyone will be able to see will attract the sponsors Ari Z keeps going on about?

On the other other hand, if anyone with eagle eyes or the camera can see it, perhaps it will be easier to know who to blame for some of the things we see on the ice (mind you, there haven't been that many ghastly ones this year, just dull. Do the designers want to advertise dull?). On the other other other hand, Satomi Ito and other foreign designers like the gorgeous Koreans will do them in their languages.

On the other other other other hand I hate the idea but as always... they didn't ask the fannish public let alone me.
 
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Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell! ;)

Here arw Nicole Bobek, Tara Lipinsky and Michelle Kwan pitching Campbell's. :)


Oh my goodness! 😲

Funny, but cringeworthy at the same time.

Does anybody here have the mug? Out of curiosity, I just went onto a well known auction website, and there are quite a few for sale, most of which are at very good prices. But, they are all in America, and the postage to the UK is extortionate. So, I'll pass.

Well, I always preferred Baxter's soup anyway. ;) :p

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Then they had better make it clear... or we will get open slather. (Who does Vera Wang design for at the minute?)
I think it was more in the hope that Vera Wang would want to design for more skaters with it (she was the one they used as an example.) Maybe she'll want to design for someone going to the Olympics this season.

For how clear they made it, Rule 102 6 a) paragraph iii) is:
During the competition performance, the Gala Exhibition at the end of an event and the Victory Ceremony, one Manufacturer Identification with a maximum of 30cm2 is allowed on the clothing of Competitors. In all instances where the item contains elastic material (such as synthetic elastic fiber material known as spandex or elastane), the Authorized Identification size shall be measured stretched (e.g. as worn by the Skater). In addition, a Skater’s costumes may carry the Skater’s and his ISU Member’s name and/or logo and/or official ISU Member abbreviation. Boots and blades may carry the manufacturer identifications for boots or blades as per paragraph a)i) above.

Going to that paragraph a)i for what they mean by manufacturer identification for boots/blades:
No markings are permitted on boots or blades, except for the boot manufacturer’s name on the boot heel not larger than 10 cm 2 and one engraved identification of the manufacturer not larger than 20 cm 2 on each blade and each blade guard

So that's what I'm assuming they mean, manufacturer identification on the costume is like how they treat it for boots/blades. Whoever makes it gets to put the logo on it, and they can't get Nike logos on costumes unless Nike makes the costume.
 
Here arw Nicole Bobek, Tara Lipinsky and Michelle Kwan pitching Campbell's. :)

I remember that from 1998 US Nationals in Philadelphia, PA. I may even have had one those mugs that I got as a freebie. I don't have it any more, though. There were also the ads from Campbell's Soup (I guess the association with figure skating would be to have something hot after being on the ice for so many hours of training). But then again, there's hot chocolate, too (thinking of Hershey's).
 
I remember that from 1998 US Nationals in Philadelphia, PA. I may even have had one those mugs that I got as a freebie. I don't have it any more, though. There were also the ads from Campbell's Soup (I guess the association with figure skating would be to have something hot after being on the ice for so many hours of training). But then again, there's hot chocolate, too (thinking of Hershey's).
I don't know about Hershey's but Lotte had this very thought, too, and took very good care of it... :)




Actually I think they sponsored the whole (or big part) of Japanese national team and they all had Lotte logo on their jackets in Kiss&Cry (but mind you, not on the costumes), plus quite a few ads, and some very good ones, too.
 
Now that @saine has explained the intent (designer logos) for the costume rule, it makes more sense. If it helps with costume costs for skaters, and is tastefully done, I can see the point.

Jumping off, Campbell’s Soup has been doing cheesy ads and promotions with athletes for decades. There has been a display of Jason Kelce soup in my local high end grocery store for months. Those were the days when skaters were considered well known enough for the Campbell’s ads:drama:
 
Didn't Campbells sponsor one of the touring shows at one point? And doesn't or didn't Nike design the leisure wear? And we all know Ralph Lauren designs the Olympic gear and has for years. None of that bothers me but I don't want to see advertisements on skating costumes. Vera Wang makes a boatload of money when she designs a skating dress (wasn't Nancy Kerrigan's O dress like $2000 and how many years ago was that?) and doesn't need the advertisement.
 
Didn't Campbells sponsor one of the touring shows at one point?
Here is a promotional for the Campbell's Soup Tour of Figure Skating Champions (1996) featuring Brian Boitano, Oksana Baiul, Victor Petrenko, Todd Eldredge, Elvis Stojko, Surya Bonaly, Michelle Kwan, Phillippe Candeloro and Nicole Bobek. This was the Tom Collins production later renamed Champions on Ice. Campbell's also sponsored some of the popular made for TV cheesefests.


This was back in the day when figure skating was promoted as "wholesome family entertainment" -- even as Campbell's Soup was "wholesome good food." Figure skating seemed a natural fit with the kind of corporate image the company wanted to nurture.. ("Nurture" -- get it? :cheeky: )

By the way, I still have my Kristi Yamaguchi Wheaties box. I keep it next to my Kristi Yamaguchi snow globe. :)

(Odd fact -- The first ice skater featured on a Wheaties box was a lady speed skater named Kit Klein in 1933. Klein won gold in the 1500 meters at the 1932 Olympics where ladies speed skating was a demonstration sport :rock: )
 
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