Akiko Suzuki

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Akiko's skating is so beautiful. Looking forward to seeing the video of her new program.
 

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Today's show was the first time I've seen her skate (I am new to skating, and I mostly watch Medvedeva), and I really liked her performance! She is light and graceful, and I thought her dress was by far the best one at the show (although Medvedeva's grey/lavender dress, from her other EX that wasn't shown in today's stream, is also pretty), and I thought the headband was a nice touch. She's a pretty girl whose skating is engaging and entertaining, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of her in the future. :)
 

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Today's show was the first time I've seen her skate (I am new to skating, and I mostly watch Medvedeva), and I really liked her performance! She is light and graceful, and I thought her dress was by far the best one at the show (although Medvedeva's grey/lavender dress, from her other EX that wasn't shown in today's stream, is also pretty), and I thought the headband was a nice touch. She's a pretty girl whose skating is engaging and entertaining, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of her in the future. :)

Unfortunately Akiko is retired so it might make more sense as a new fan to search for her competitive programs from when she was still competing, especially the quad 2010-2014. She always has interesting exhibitions too and her very own style.
 

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Unfortunately Akiko is retired so it might make more sense as a new fan to search for her competitive programs from when she was still competing, especially the quad 2010-2014. She always has interesting exhibitions too and her very own style.

Aw, that's poor timing on my part, then. :eek:hwell: I will indeed go watch some of her older videos!
 

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This is the program that made me her fan: Libertango (2009)
https://youtu.be/v1gDGozML94?t=35s :)

EDIT: Sorry, this performance was from The Ice 2008. The program was for 2008-2009 season, choreographed by Kenji Miyamoto upon Daisuke Takahashi's request.
 

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Yes! I loved the bird choreography at the beginning; she really sold that, and the music was wonderful! The step sequence was my favorite part; I really liked how well it was set to the music, and the look of joy on her face as she was bringing the routine home at the end as well as her beaming smile as she finished really polished it off for me. She really felt that, she loved it, and she conveyed that and let me share it with her. That was indeed a wonderful program!

This is the program that made me her fan: Libertango (2009)
https://youtu.be/v1gDGozML94?t=35s :)
Yes! Nice!
 

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One of my favourite exhibitions ever. Akiko and Cirque du Soleil was always great, look at Love Dance, I still get goosebumps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFlj9kFeQ8

Akiko is unique in that she only got succesful when she was a bit older than the norm. Unfortunately I don't think a career like hers is still possible in this day and age. She is truly artistic!
 

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One of my favourite exhibitions ever. Akiko and Cirque du Soleil was always great, look at Love Dance, I still get goosebumps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFlj9kFeQ8

Akiko is unique in that she only got succesful when she was a bit older than the norm. Unfortunately I don't think a career like hers is still possible in this day and age. She is truly artistic!

Yes, very mesmerizing! She moves well to the music in her programs, and not everyone does that. I don't know if that's an issue with choreography, or if some people just can't make the movements look like a response to the music, or what, but she is definitely among those who can do it. I love the colors of the dress, too. Blue, green, and purple are my favorite colors, and that dress essentially covered all the bases.

I see from the bio page at the start of this thread that she had quite a long career and is much older than I had suspected. She is aging well and didn't look over 25 to me in the Fantasy on Ice show the other day. I wish the sport wasn't so heavily weighted towards youth, because I care much more for the artistry than the athleticism. The jumps are nice, and without them, it's ice dancing (which is fine, but it's not figure skating), but unless a skater can draw me in and make me feel what they're feeling, I don't really care much for the performance, and that artistry doesn't usually develop until they're a little older.

Until now, I have only watched skating during the Olympics, and aside from Katarina Witt, I have more or less only paid attention to American skaters, although there hasn't been one that I really liked since Sasha Cohen. I missed Suzuki's career entirely, but now I am watching a lot more. I watched Worlds, and I have watched a lot of YouTube videos and found some other skaters whom I like besides Medvedeva, and now I can add Suzuki to to the list even though she's retired, and hopefully, I won't miss another great talent since I won't just be watching during the Olympics anymore.
 

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Yes, very mesmerizing! She moves well to the music in her programs, and not everyone does that. I don't know if that's an issue with choreography, or if some people just can't make the movements look like a response to the music, or what, but she is definitely among those who can do it. I love the colors of the dress, too. Blue, green, and purple are my favorite colors, and that dress essentially covered all the bases.

One of the reasons she can move to music so well is that she has very good skating skills. She would have gotten good scores if we still had compulsory figures.

She has always had some of the best costumes, and many of hers (probably since 2011-2012 season) were made by Shizuko Orihara of Studio Mu. This Clair du Lune costume was much more beautiful live than on screen. She looked like wearing stars, breathtakingly beautiful.

She had a quite successful career as a junior and was aiming at Turin WOG, but it was disrupted by anorexia when she was eighteen (2003-2004). Her breakthrough season was 2008-2009, in which she placed 4th at Nats, only 0.11 points behind Miki Ando. She was already 23 then, and few thought she would make it to the Olympic teams not just once but twice.
https://youtu.be/rKiUJ-MGWGs

She landed a clean 3-3 combo for the first time in a competition when she was 26.
https://youtu.be/ss_ATALA56E
 

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One of the reasons she can move to music so well is that she has very good skating skills. She would have gotten good scores if we still had compulsory figures.

She has always had some of the best costumes, and many of hers (probably since 2011-2012 season) were made by Shizuko Orihara of Studio Mu. This Clair du Lune costume was much more beautiful live than on screen. She looked like wearing stars, breathtakingly beautiful.

She had a quite successful career as a junior and was aiming at Turin WOG, but it was disrupted by anorexia when she was eighteen (2003-2004). Her breakthrough season was 2008-2009, in which she placed 4th at Nats, only 0.11 points behind Miki Ando. She was already 23 then, and few thought she would make it to the Olympic teams not just once but twice.
https://youtu.be/rKiUJ-MGWGs

She landed a clean 3-3 combo for the first time in a competition when she was 26.
https://youtu.be/ss_ATALA56E

So is anorexia a common problem in figure skating, then? I thought that Lipnitskaya was an outlier. There certainly seem to be two different body types in skating, a thin, bird-like figure like Suzuki and Medvedeva, and a thicker, muscular one (especially at the legs) like Wakaba Higuchi and Katarina Witt. Some skaters look to be a bit in the middle between the two, like Kostner and Tuktamysheva, but to my novice eye, most are split into either skinny or stout. Do the skinny ones tend towards eating disorders?

I loved that routine, especially the heel pivot thingy about 53 seconds into it. I know it's nothing fancy, but it looked cool! I also like her arm movements while she's holding her leg up at the 2 minute mark. It looks harder that way, like she ought to fall, sort of the way it makes me feel when Medvedeva does those skid spirals. I don't skate, and I can't even tell the jumps apart, so I end up being impressed by other stuff, some of which I find out is hard (like Trusova and Zhou doing cantilevers), and some of which probably isn't (like turning with one heel planted in the ice or Medvedeva's toe pick hopscotch), but for me, skating is all subjective right now, and I really liked those two little moves she did. :thumbsup:

I'm sorry, though; the first thing I thought of when I saw that costume was: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sundaes-Neopolitan-Coconut-Candies.jpg It is a wonderful cut, but I couldn't help seeing candy skate across the ice. :p
 

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So is anorexia a common problem in figure skating, then? I thought that Lipnitskaya was an outlier. There certainly seem to be two different body types in skating, a thin, bird-like figure like Suzuki and Medvedeva, and a thicker, muscular one (especially at the legs) like Wakaba Higuchi and Katarina Witt. Some skaters look to be a bit in the middle between the two, like Kostner and Tuktamysheva, but to my novice eye, most are split into either skinny or stout. Do the skinny ones tend towards eating disorders?

It seems eating disorders are more common among the athletes in sports like figure skating and gymnastics than we think. I don't think body types are a major factor because they are mental disorders, and not all skaters who have suffered have bird-like figures, like Gracie Gold for example. Puberty, pressure by the coaches and federations, and other factors may contribute to the illness.

Jenny Kirk is another former competitive skaters who has been publicly talking about her eating disorders. What I see in common in both Akiko and Jenifer is perfectionism planted by very strict mothers. Akiko's mother used to be very strict and demanding, and she tried to be a perfect child for her. After graduating high school, she left home in Toyohashi and relocated to Sendai (750 km away according to Google) to train with Mr. Nagakubo. She tried to control her weight very strictly, may be too strict, and the self-control got out of control. When her weight dropped to 32 kg, Mr. Nagakubo sent her home.

First, her mother couldn't accept the fact that her daughter was having an eating disorder. She started recovering when her mother accepted her as she was, even if she wasn't a perfect person. It seems rebuilding her relationship with her mother was her key to recovery. While Akiko has been open about her eating disorder, she hasn't told details of the conversations with her mother at that time, and some may be still painful to remember for both of them.

Unfortunately Jenifer's case, her mother died of breast cancer while she was still competing.


I'm sorry, though; the first thing I thought of when I saw that costume was: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sundaes-Neopolitan-Coconut-Candies.jpg It is a wonderful cut, but I couldn't help seeing candy skate across the ice. :p

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: They look yummy!
 

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It seems eating disorders are more common among the athletes in sports like figure skating and gymnastics than we think. I don't think body types are a major factor because they are mental disorders, and not all skaters who have suffered have bird-like figures, like Gracie Gold for example. Puberty, pressure by the coaches and federations, and other factors may contribute to the illness.

Jenny Kirk is another former competitive skaters who has been publicly talking about her eating disorders. What I see in common in both Akiko and Jenifer is perfectionism planted by very strict mothers. Akiko's mother used to be very strict and demanding, and she tried to be a perfect child for her. After graduating high school, she left home in Toyohashi and relocated to Sendai (750 km away according to Google) to train with Mr. Nagakubo. She tried to control her weight very strictly, may be too strict, and the self-control got out of control. When her weight dropped to 32 kg, Mr. Nagakubo sent her home.

First, her mother couldn't accept the fact that her daughter was having an eating disorder. She started recovering when her mother accepted her as she was, even if she wasn't a perfect person. It seems rebuilding her relationship with her mother was her key to recovery. While Akiko has been open about her eating disorder, she hasn't told details of the conversations with her mother at that time, and some may be still painful to remember for both of them.

Unfortunately Jenifer's case, her mother died of breast cancer while she was still competing.




:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: They look yummy!


Wow, that's a lot more skaters than I had presumed might have a problem. I can see how it could be rooted and driven by something other than weight. I'm glad that Akiko was able to heal things with her mother and recover from the disorder, but that's terrible about Jenifer. Sometimes, you just have to get over the wounds other people have inflicted on you without their cooperation or even the ability to tell them "You hurt me," though. I hope Jenifer recovers, too.

My grandmother liked those candies and always had them around. I hate coconut unless it's fresh, so they were safe from being pilfered by my little hands. :laugh: She had to hide the lemon drops. :yes:
 
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