Alena Kostornaia

IndiaP12 · Sep 2, 2018

elbkup said:
She was masterful and I loved both programs but I agree a different choreographer is in order otherwise there is the chance something sublime will descend to the predictable and mundane.. even the most exquisite moves need innovative diverse patterns to grow and develop... I agree she is the best I have ever seen excepting perhaps Yulia...

Personally I think her new programs are very much different to those last season. I think Daniil is a versatile choreographer. But yes, it could be nice to see what happens if she has a different choreographer

Fluture · Sep 2, 2018

flanker said:
BTW I 've noticed that when she finished, members of US team didn't applaud her at all. They are sitting just above the entrance and can be seen at 4:31. Nothing, not even courtesy applause.

That wasn‘t exclusively with Alena, though. When Ting Cui started her skate suddenly they were starting to cheer and clap loudly (they had been mostly quiet before that). My mom grinned at me and said: “Looks like the Americans have finally woken up.“ Where I was sitting there were the Russian and Japanese fans (and some British fans, too, surprisingly) so there was always lots of applause for everyone, even the poor girl who got roughly 10 points in her SP and 26 overall.

Elucidus · Sep 2, 2018

I am so glad she looks very happy :cool2:

Scott512 · Sep 2, 2018

Elucidus said:
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I am so glad she looks very happy :cool2:

Thank you for these great pictures. Her expressions are just so full of life.

Just curious who are the other girls on the podium?

Elucidus · Sep 2, 2018

Scott512 said:
Thank you for these great pictures. Her expressions are just so full of life.

Just curious who are the other girls on the podium?

You don't follow juniors at all, do you? 0_0 They are Alena Kanysheva and Shiika Yoshioka.

Amef · Sep 3, 2018

Anyone have info on what her EX will be this season?

atsumiri · Sep 3, 2018

Amef said:
Anyone have info on what her EX will be this season?

Juniors usually doesn't have EX. They just don't need it.
I think she will use her SP from the last season as EX.

flanker · Sep 3, 2018

Fluture said:
That wasn‘t exclusively with Alena, though. When Ting Cui started her skate suddenly they were starting to cheer and clap loudly (they had been mostly quiet before that). My mom grinned at me and said: “Looks like the Americans have finally woken up.“ Where I was sitting there were the Russian and Japanese fans (and some British fans, too, surprisingly) so there was always lots of applause for everyone, even the poor girl who got roughly 10 points in her SP and 26 overall.

Thanks for the observation. Was there anything other interresting? By the way is it completely different experience watching it on the stadium vs. on screen?

Giver · Sep 3, 2018

Fluture said:
That wasn‘t exclusively with Alena, though. When Ting Cui started her skate suddenly they were starting to cheer and clap loudly (they had been mostly quiet before that). My mom grinned at me and said: “Looks like the Americans have finally woken up.“ Where I was sitting there were the Russian and Japanese fans (and some British fans, too, surprisingly) so there was always lots of applause for everyone, even the poor girl who got roughly 10 points in her SP and 26 overall.

By the way, what was with Alena during warm-up? She fell on 3F3T or just made a step-out?

Orlov · Sep 3, 2018

Fluture said:
That wasn‘t exclusively with Alena, though. When Ting Cui started her skate suddenly they were starting to cheer and clap loudly (they had been mostly quiet before that). My mom grinned at me and said: “Looks like the Americans have finally woken up.“ Where I was sitting there were the Russian and Japanese fans (and some British fans, too, surprisingly) so there was always lots of applause for everyone, even the poor girl who got roughly 10 points in her SP and 26 overall.

I remember how at the team competition at the Olympics Trankov-kommentator said after brilliant Alina's DQ: "The Italian team are standing applauding, the Russian standing applaud, sit only Canada and America, but whatever. Americans with stone faces, Canadian... wait, Patrick (Chan) applauds standing. Because Patrick is a real athlete and has great personality!"

tbh, I think this is cultural difference about team-stuff, but at the personal level americans seem like nice people.

flanker · Sep 3, 2018

Orlov said:
I remember how at the team competition at the Olympics Trankov-kommentator said after brilliant Alina's DQ: "The Italian team are standing applauding, the Russian standing applaud, sit only Canada and America, but whatever. Americans with stone faces, Canadian... wait, Patrick (Chan) applauds standing. Because Patrick is a real athlete and has great personality!"

tbh, I think this is cultural difference about team-stuff, but at the personal level americans seem like nice people.

You can definitely see many Americans here, who are nice people, even fans and rooting for foreign skaters, japanese, russian, korean... Like Lusk8 is probably the nicest person I've ever met in any discussion anywhere on the internet. My point wasn't to make Americans look bad.

Giver · Sep 3, 2018

I'm just worry that during summer practice Alena was talking enthusiastically about 3A, 3L3Lo and even 4T in her ask, but now - no 3A, no loop combo (even at practice) and she looks less and less enthusiastic with each day. And her jumps became heavier and less stable.

atsumiri · Sep 3, 2018

Giver said:
And her jumps became heavier and less stable.

In what universe? :roller: Obviously not in this reality.
Do you aware that skaters are gaining shape during the full season? Nobody can't hold a 100% shape the full year.

wanderer · Sep 3, 2018

Giver said:
And her jumps became heavier and less stable.

Really ???

https://youtu.be/qNqkzHtJQF4?t=44

Watch · Sep 3, 2018

Giver said:
I'm just worry that during summer practice Alena was talking enthusiastically about 3A, 3L3Lo and even 4T in her ask, but now - no 3A, no loop combo (even at practice) and she looks less and less enthusiastic with each day. And her jumps became heavier and less stable.

That's really an ovetstatement. She had one shaky landing in her FS, not even a stepout. And she looked nervous, yes, but there was more than enough enthusiasm once she won. She's a young girl under a lot of pressure. Being nervous before your first start is normal.

atsumiri · Sep 3, 2018

“Overall I am pleased with my peformances, but I could have done some elements better, even a lot better, and I’m trying to bringing everything to perfection in the course of the season,” Kostornaia commented. “I’ll try to include the triple Axel maybe for the (ISU Junior) Grand Prix Final. Right now it is not very consistent, but I hope to get in good shape,” the 15-year-old added.
https://isu.org/inside-single-pair-...su-junior-grand-prix-in-linz?templateParam=15

Orlov · Sep 3, 2018

Giver said:
...she looks less and less enthusiastic with each day.

wow. just wow. Did you see this Fluture? Oссam cries in the corner and screaming "why"

and, god damm, how to cancel "like" which I accidentally clicked to him?

atsumiri · Sep 3, 2018

Orlov said:
and, god damm, how to cancel "like" which I accidentally clicked to him?

just click one more time):agree:

yoloaxel · Sep 3, 2018

atsumiri said:
“Overall I am pleased with my peformances, but I could have done some elements better, even a lot better, and I’m trying to bringing everything to perfection in the course of the season,” Kostornaia commented. “I’ll try to include the triple Axel maybe for the (ISU Junior) Grand Prix Final. Right now it is not very consistent, but I hope to get in good shape,” the 15-year-old added.
https://isu.org/inside-single-pair-...su-junior-grand-prix-in-linz?templateParam=15

Yay! I'm glad she plans on including the 3A later on in the season, that training video of it was so impressive!

I could tell that she wasn't super happy with her performances in Austria but I'm sure as the season progresses she'll do better and better

BillNeal · Sep 3, 2018

Giver said:
I'm just worry that during summer practice Alena was talking enthusiastically about 3A, 3L3Lo and even 4T in her ask, but now - no 3A, no loop combo (even at practice) and she looks less and less enthusiastic with each day. And her jumps became heavier and less stable.

Ya not as effortless. I think a coaching change may benefit her. She has a softness to her skating that would be better developed elsewhere.

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