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With the rest of Mishin's students.
With the rest of Mishin's students.
Alexander Petrov
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Another group photo
Mishin is there too, and helping some of the Colorado-based skaters fix their jumps...
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Mishin and Mirai
Another group photo
Mishin is there too, and helping some of the Colorado-based skaters fix their jumps...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEV2HO_VIAA1TPg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEiI2mYUEAASWxr.jpg
Mishin and Mirai
I'm not very optimistic of Sasha's chances of joining the seniors this season. He's ranked 10th in the updated World Standings so he's guaranteed at least one GP if he does go senior but with Plushenko, Kolyada and maybe even Zhan Bush making comebacks, the Fed might keep him in juniors.
Well, the names of the Russian national team members have already been submitted and approved by the council, or whatever they call it. But it's not been published in the Russian media yet. GP assignments are released in June right? So I guess no later than June.Well, personally, I hope they don't. But you all know my feeling on the matter - so I shan't go on about it again.When will we know, though?
With all my sympathy for Kolyada and Bush, I don't see why they should be the priority over Sasha. This season they have gathered much weaker proof that they are good enough for the senior national team, and they don't seem any more promising than Sasha. But somehow I can imagine this happening. Adelia, in your opinion, what could be the reasoning of Russian Fed if they are chosen instead of Sasha?
I guess Sasha/Kolyada/Bush would only qualify for the senior reserve team if selected. In order to include all of Zhenya, Sasha, Gorshkov, Kolyada and Bush in the reserve team, there have to be 5 slots (and that's not counting Gachinski who may not be on the A team, and maybe other guys). Will there be so many slots for them?
Is there some big disadvantage in staying junior? I agree there's no much for him left on the JGP circuit (except for outright winning JGPF, which would be a treat :yay, but I'm not sure he's ready to make a big splash in seniors yet. I think either way is fine depending on Sasha's health and progress.
, but I'm not sure he's ready to make a big splash in seniors yet. I think either way is fine depending on Sasha's health and progress.For one thing, they are older and at least one of them has landed a quad in domestic competition (I know Kolyada has, not sure about Bush). They were both also given 2 GPs last season. It is quite possible that at least one of them will be getting 1 GP (CoR) this season. Then we're down to the math. And here is where it gets hazy. It's very likely that Kovtun, Voronov, Menshov and Pitkeev will get 2 GPs each. Gachinski will likely not get more than 1. Big ? over Plushenko's participation. Will he skip GP series or not? And then there are Gorshkov and Kvitelashvili, will they get one of the host picks? Both of them finished above Sasha at senior nationals. Too many variables in play...
And then there is a minor issue of the fact that Sasha' gf had a conversation with someone on askfm a couple weeks ago and she said Sasha will participate in the junior circuit. The other person then pointed out to her that Mishin said last season that Sasha will turn senior. The gf's response was to the effect of "then I don't know."
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Is there some big disadvantage in staying junior? I agree there's no much for him left on the JGP circuit (except for outright winning JGPF, which would be a treat :yay
And I regard his not making "a big splash" immediately rather as a good thing - I'd rather he tested the senior waters more carefully, and, unsurrounded by a lot of hype, which would just pile the pressure onto him to perform spectacularly, and do him no whit of good. If people aren't expecting great things from him, all the better, in my book.
Disadvantages, off the top of my head...Is there some big disadvantage in staying junior? I agree there's no much for him left on the JGP circuit (except for outright winning JGPF, which would be a treat :yay
-You cannot attempt a quad in the SP in the junior circuit. Towards the end of the season Lakernik also hinted at further restrictions to be introduced. I'm not sure if he will follow through on that.
-If he stays junior, it means a much longer season for him and less time between the end of last season and the start of this one.
-One more season in juniors means one less season in seniors before 2018.
-Also what does "make a big splash in seniors" mean? Unless you're the ISU's "anointed one" (I won't mention names), nothing prepares you to do well in senior GPs like actual experience in senior GPs.
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That's how I look at it (although I think the decision ultimately lies with his Fed). The benefits of him doing the JGP would be: a very good shot at prize money, more chances for us to watch him compete, and we don't have to wait as long to see him skate again. Plus I'm sure he'll do a few senior Bs again just like last season.
I wonder how his quad is coming along? He's still a bit of an enigma to me...wish he would share some clips of his training once in awhile.
He doesn't have to stay in juniors to skate in Junior Worlds. Seniors are allowed to skate in JWs as long as they don't skate in senior Worlds. 2015 JWs was stuffed with senior skaters, eg. Adyan, Chinese pairs, Korean men...
Chances of seeing him compete are about the same.
LOL I think there's one more person, skater01, if I'm not mistaken.Ah, so it's you and me then, adelia, in the "Sasha for Seniors" group?
Rus Fed will have to dump at least one skater out of last season's JGP participants list though, to make way for Gumennik. And I think the Fed might also give Samoilov 2 JGPs, so they might need to push 2 out.
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Well, if he does the JGP that's 2 competitions, + almost assuredly the final. If he does the senior GP he might only get one assignment. I don't necessarily think he should do a million competitions like last season, but maybe JGP would be a good confidence-builder after his consistency started to slip a bit. And if his quad isn't stable then I don't see a huge incentive for the Fed to put him into seniors. Personally I'm fine either way - but I don't think staying junior would be the worst thing in the world. Skaters can also lose time for other reasons, like injury (knock on wood).
The fact that the Russian men's field will be comparably crowded this season is definitely a double-edged sword. I want to see strong competition, but when I like so many of them, someone is bound to get the short end of the stick. Probably a few people.
Yes, I'm in the group
Although I do see benefits either way. I mainly hope he gets to seniors for bigger chance in 2018 but then again the prize money on jgpf…
but really in my opinnion there should be no reason why they wouldn't give him least one gp.
They leave Colorado Springs today. Back to St. Petersburg. The next training camp is scheduled for July 13 in Erzurum Turkey, then another one August 10 in Tartu Estonia.
The folks in Colorado gave Mishin's group a goodbye cake:
https://instagram.com/p/2fHiWpQeBj
(there's a cake crumb on Sasha's face)
The folks in Colorado gave Mishin's group a goodbye cake:
https://instagram.com/p/2fHiWpQeBj
(there's a cake crumb on Sasha's face)
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