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Andrew Torgashev

Thanks for the welcome! As painful as it must have been for Andrew to perform that poorly at a home Worlds, at least it wasn’t this fall (or Nationals, not making the World team). He does seem to have the support of Polina, Ashley, Adam and some other big name skaters.

The mental game has to be one of the hardest aspects of competitive skating, especially in singles when you’re all alone on the ice. It may be harder to “let loose” for someone who is quiet and introverted as Andrew appears to be. I wonder if he has thought about using a sports psychologist, which seems to have helped Nathan among other skaters.
 
The mental game has to be one of the hardest aspects of competitive skating, especially in singles when you’re all alone on the ice. It may be harder to “let loose” for someone who is quiet and introverted as Andrew appears to be. I wonder if he has thought about using a sports psychologist, which seems to have helped Nathan among other skaters.
Hi teddycat! I’ve posted so infrequently I can’t even remember how to post part of a quote 😄. Anyway, I’m new to the Torg fandom but a fs fan so old I vaguely remember watching Janet Lynn, way way back. 😆 Anyway, when I was watching a bunch of YTs as I worked, one came up in autoplay of a press conference with Jason, Ilia, and Andrew. I don’t even know what it was from. (Maybe just Witchita!) But it seemed to have been misdated as 2023 season when it is 2024 season (maybe someone knows what this is?). The press (Christine, Phil) were really hammering Ilia about his sloppy program and Jason was rushing to his defense for attacking him, speaking about the years-long work with a sports psychologist he (Jason) had done and how she still had to convince him that he was mentally prepared and to believe in himself. It was very funny and disarming.

I don’t normally watch press conferences in figure skating, so I apologize for lack of detail. Some skaters get in their head for all kinds of reasons and sports psychologists are widely used. You just don’t want a certain rep as someone who can’t deal with the pressure. Amber Glenn famously has been very open about her struggles with confidence and how her work with sp has benefitted her.

But yes, I think he should and probably does. It’s just putting it all together. But SO many factors can lead to a poor skate. People are mentioning Raf being there instead of just Brandon was intimidating. That’s why athletes have so many routines and superstitions, like wearing the same socks, etc. I was worried I was distracting skaters once when I rushed to my seat during warmups at womens long! (Bathroom lines were insane!)

I was listening to a podcast today that said something about Andrew saying he was feeling great during warmup and then as he relaced his boots to go out for his long, he realized he was no longer in the zone but kind of out of it.

It’s unfortunate, but it occurs to me this is one of the reasons I think this is the best sport on Earth. High stakes, tiny, global field of competitors, and honestly low reward except love of the sport. (Thankfully the window of opportunity has widened for women as well as men, so you can follow a skater for over 10 years!) Plus, I love redemption stories and I think we’ll get one this season with Andrew.
 
This is going to seem weird or just nonsense to some people, but I was so concerned about Andrew and what happened to him, and as I was contemplating this sad experience, I heard a voice in my head say, "arena."

I believe it to be the voice of God in my mind, and it happens, sometimes. Of course, you don't have to believe this if you don't want to, and I'm not someone who forces my beliefs on others. I just wonder if he may have truly been very intimated by the arena and all the loud, excited fans. (I know I'd be terrified!)

We could see clearly that he was nervous, after all, but WHY is the question, other than "Worlds." It could be he suffers from performance anxiety if the crowd is too big, or too invested, or that it's the arena where the Celtics and Bruins play... I think he just freaked out because the crowd kind of scared him. Even Amber Glenn said someone shouted really loudly during her free skate and it startled her during one of her jumping passes and messed her up.
 
Polina Edmunds, who has had Andrew on her podcast three times, had Brian Boitano as a guest for a men's Worlds recap. She agrees with me (and yes it is all about me:ROFLMAO:).

She also wonders if having Raf sit with Andrew at Worlds was a good idea. Brian talks technically about toe picks and jump form and how he thinks it changed to Andrew's detriment. They speak very calmly and I was able to watch and listen without getting agitated. ;)

The Andrew portion starts at about 50 minutes.

 
The Polina and Brian discussion is interesting. They both seem to be very favorable to Andrew and his skating skills and potential. Whatever happened to throw him off, the most important thing is for him to recalibrate and hopefully not repeat it at a crucial time.

On his Instagram account, there are some good photos taken on Sunday. He looks relaxed and not noticeably stressed, which is nice to see. He and Sofia look cute together. 😉 I don’t see the link to his dog’s page, I hope he still has him.
 
I posted this in the Ice Dreams thread, but it seems that Andrew will be performing in the show in Minnesota July 18th. tickets are on sale for the show, if anyone lives near Inver Grove Heights (a suburb of St. Paul). Hope someone gets to attend!

Come join us for an amazing skating show with 2024 US Pair Champions and 2025 World Competitors Danny O'Shea and Ellie Kam, 2025 US Men's Silver Medalist Andrew Torgashev, Olympic Choreographer Rohene Ward, 2022 Olympian Ashley Cain, and 2014 Olympian Gracie Gold, plus another performer will be added after the ISU World Figure Skating Championships! This is special opportunity to watch exciting figure skating up close and locally! It is a once in a lifetime experience!
 
Happy belated birthday Andrew!🎉

At least on social media, Andrew is keeping his usual radio silence. Random still photos with young skaters are the closest we get to the ice (that and the Florida Panthers, he still loves his hometown team), but his own skating?

Andrew fans learn the art of patience. :biggrin:
 
Happy belated birthday Andrew!🎉

At least on social media, Andrew is keeping his usual radio silence. Random still photos with young skaters are the closest we get to the ice (that and the Florida Panthers, he still loves his hometown team), but his own skating?

Andrew fans learn the art of patience. :biggrin:
He does seem to keep a low profile! I hope that he is enjoying the off season but will be prepared for a tough season. A lot of people may have written him off after Worlds and are rooting for other skaters instead. 😔
 
I can only hope for every skater, including of course Andrew:clap:, to do their best. This could be motivation for another great GP season.

It is possible to root for more than one American man, I know that I do. :biggrin:
 
I can only hope for every skater, including of course Andrew:clap:, to do their best. This could be motivation for another great GP season.

It is possible to root for more than one American man, I know that I do. :biggrin:
Agreed, I have several favorites and want them all to do well. I just feel bad for Andrew having read some pretty negative comments about him on other sites, as if he doesn’t have a ton of support these days. ☹️
 
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I also have Andrew's 2025 Worlds programs. Yes, I did the LP, but I understand if no one clicks on it. ;) I decided to keep Andrew's warmup entrances also. It was fun to see Andrew enter the ice so joyously, and it didn't hurt that Jason was in the same group both times. The crowd reception for the American skaters in Boston sounded next level. How special.

2025 World Championships
2025 Worlds Short Program Entrance
2025 Worlds Short Program
2025 Worlds Free Skate Entrance
2025 Worlds Free Skate
 
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I also have Andrew's 2025 Worlds programs. Yes, I did the LP, but I understand if no one clicks on it. ;) I decided to keep Andrew's warmup entrances also. It was fun to see Andrew enter the ice so joyously, and it didn't hurt that Jason was in the same group both times. The crowd reception for the American skaters in Boston sounded next level. How special.

2025 World Championships
Worlds Short Program Entrance
Worlds Short Program
Worlds Free Skate Entrance
Worlds Free Skate
Thanks for sending the links! I hadn’t seen all of the earlier performances. It does show what a strong season Andrew had up until Worlds, where he did seem tense and nervous despite the very supportive crowds.
 
Thanks for sending the links! I hadn’t seen all of the earlier performances. It does show what a strong season Andrew had up until Worlds, where he did seem tense and nervous despite the very supportive crowds.
Even at Cranberry and Nebelhorn he scored more than 15 points higher than at Worlds. It's interesting now to rewatch Cranberry and Nebelhorn and notice how Andrew's Scheherazade grew from the Challengers to the GPs and Nationals. Nationals was certainly its pinnacle. I'm so thrilled we got to see it skated like that. Andrew was also so happy at NHK, and he got a medal in France. What a season.
 
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