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Group 3:
Johnny Weir: I think this is probably not good music for the Olympics, because you'd be so nervous... But still I think the positioning and the way the steps follow the music are so good. The 3A is fantastic too.

Zhang Min: I appreciate the energy, but this was just bad choreo. Excellent lift on the 4T though.

Sergei Davydov: Just not good.

Tomas Verner: Nope.

Jamal Othman: Technically weak no doubt, but enjoyed it more as a performance than so many men before him. Finished well behind the music.

Kevin van der Perren: Nope.

Group 4:
Stefan Lindemann: It's a pity about the failed jumps, because I kind of like him as a skater. Program is another mystery. enjoyed the straight line steps.

Vakhtang Murvanidze: I liked that in parts. Gave up on the performance because of the failed jumps, and I wish he hadn't.
Anton Kovalevski: I liked that in parts, too.
Matt Savoie: Yeah, that was excellent. Probably the best basic skating so far. Program not as interesting as Lambiel's and the mistake detracts, but deserves extremely high PCS.
Brian Joubert: well. He's hot and has nice jumps. The rest was always suspect to me. committed performance though.
Han Jon In: Well, very unfortunate errors.

Group 5:
Karel Zelemka: Nah.
Lysacek: Robotic and soulless, but choreo fit the music in many parts.
Ilia Klimkin: I actually like him, but performance was very off. One of the few (only?) serpentine steps we saw here.
Gregor Urbas: Eh.
Zoltan Toth: Nah.

Emmanuel Sandhu: I don't like the program and am mostly meh on him, but he committed to it and it was like a breath of fresh air in this final group.

I think what I learned is that this era had better basics and spinners. Choreo wasn't necessarily better in terms of interesting movement and interpretation, but significantly less cluttered. I do think we have good performers now, and even if none of them reach the highs of a Lambiel or a Savoie, they in general perform better than the average performer here... So I wish the modern skaters had less cluttered programs, because I think the impression would be much better.
 
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Thread '2006 Olympic Winter Games - Torino, Italy videos'

2006 Olympic Winter Games
Torino, ITA
Palavela
10.02.2006 - 26.02.2006

ISU results http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2006/

Note – All skates are listed in competition order

Surprisingly well documented, this was an event with an amazing pairs field, a men's field of Plushenko vs. the world, a dance event expected to be extremely competitive, but marred by the infamous original dance where a record number of teams had mistakes, and a hard fought ladies event that ended with a leading challenger withdrawing and a surprise winner.

For Tolstoj who mentioned the event as the...
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I'll be skipping ID because I find the discipline unpleasant, but will now also be doing Pairs! Just keep watching, just keep watching... 🐠
 
LPs, Men (only going to do skaters I want to talk about with the LPs, unike the SPs)

Group 1
Lindemann: The jumps were failing, and I think the music is a bad choice, but I appreciate some of the transitions. And while I don't feel his whole body movement impressive here, I liked what he tried to do with the circular step sequence.

Group 2
Klimkin: Not a fully cooked program, but I think it's very good he tried to express the music through interesting shapes and arm movements. That change foot camel that does the camel in both directions and COE on both feet/directions must be so hard.
Kovalevski: I think he's musically sensitive, but just way too many mistakes for it to matter.

Group 3:
Lysacek: Horrible 3A technique. Nice energy and body movement, but I feel he's incapable of drawing any emotion out of the music. This is basically the type of music he's any good at expressing, because the music's own drama can make up for your lack of it...

Savoie: Gorgeous. I looooooove the way he does his transitions, and this program is filled with them - like the split leap into the forward spiral into the 3S, barely losing any speed, or the hydroblade as a connecting move before the 3A pass. That circular step is bound to be one of the very best ever. Astounding that this placed lower than Lysacek on PCS. Rep judging, nothing else. That 3Lz being marked a 2Lz isn't deserved either.

Sawyer: Lots of transitions here too! I don't feel he was able to bring an overall package like Savoie did, but appreciate the effort.

Group 4:
Plushenko: Eh. I don't like this program or much of his skating. Can't fault much of his jumps here, but I don't like this version of this program. Think he did it better in a different competition.

Lambiel: I'm crying at how I'm supposed to pretend this was 15 points worse than Plushenko (and apparently also worse than Lysacek). Yeah he had mistakes, but PCS wise he deserves to make up lots of ground. Definitely shouldn't be behind Plushy on that score, or only two points ahead of Lysacek. And, lol, Savoie deserves to lead that score so far, not even close. Deservedly into second, at least, Plushy took it on tech.

Weir: I loooooove his musical sensitivity, but he did this better at Nationals. Ahead of Lysacek on PCS at least, thank god.

Buttle: Much better program than the SP, but still a little too bland for me. Still, deserves credit for trying to go for a complete package and some excellent basic skating.

Joubert: Well. he's hot and has nice jumps. Let's leave it there.

Takahashi: Much better than the SP. Appreciated it.

Savoie would end up with the highest PCS for me.

I appreciated quite a few of these LPs more than our latest Olympics, that's for sure. One thing I think I need to point out is that present day music editing and cuts are better than 20 years ago. Also, CoP has done a good job with requiring skaters to practice flexibility and whole body movement, because some of these skaters really lack a range of movement. I think the current CoP overshoots it no doubt, but I think that's why the next couple of seasons were good - fuller programs than in 6.0, more variety of transitions and spin positions, step sequences that saw the skaters actually attempt full body movement.

@ladyjane I'll do Pairs with you, if you want to.
 
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LPs, Men (only going to do skaters I want to talk about with the LPs, unike the SPs)

Group 1
Lindemann: The jumps were failing, and I think the music is a bad choice, but I appreciate some of the transitions. And while I don't feel his whole body movement impressive here, I liked what he tried to do with the circular step sequence.

Group 2
Klimkin: Not a fully cooked program, but I think it's very good he tried to express the music through interesting shapes and arm movements. That change foot camel that does the camel in both directions and COE on both feet/directions must be so hard.
Kovalevski: I think he's musically sensitive, but just way too many mistakes for it to matter.

Group 3:
Lysacek: Horrible 3A technique. Nice energy and body movement, but I feel he's incapable of drawing any emotion out of the music. This is basically the type of music he's any good at expressing, because the music's own drama can make up for your lack of it...

Savoie: Gorgeous. I looooooove the way he does his transitions, and this program is filled with them - like the split leap into the forward spiral into the 3S, barely losing any speed, or the hydroblade as a connecting move before the 3A pass. That circular step is bound to be one of the very best ever. Astounding that this placed lower than Lysacek on PCS. Rep judging, nothing else. That 3Lz being marked a 2Lz isn't deserved either.

Sawyer: Lots of transitions here too! I don't feel he was able to bring an overall package like Savoie did, but appreciate the effort.

Group 4:
Plushenko: Eh. I don't like this program or much of his skating. Can't fault much of his jumps here, but I don't like this version of this program. Think he did it better in a different competition.

Lambiel: I'm crying at how I'm supposed to pretend this was 15 points worse than Plushenko (and apparently also worse than Lysacek). Yeah he had mistakes, but PCS wise he deserves to make up lots of ground. Definitely shouldn't be behind Plushy on that score, or only two points ahead of Lysacek. And, lol, Savoie deserves to lead that score so far, not even close. Deservedly into second, at least, Plushy took it on tech.

Weir: I loooooove his musical sensitivity, but he did this better at Nationals. Ahead of Lysacek on PCS at least, thank god.

Buttle: Much better program than the SP, but still a little too bland for me. Still, deserves credit for trying to go for a complete package and some excellent basic skating.

Joubert: Well. he's hot and has nice jumps. Let's leave it there.

Takahashi: Much better than the SP. Appreciated it.

Savoie would end up with the highest PCS for me.

I appreciated quite a few of these LPs more than our latest Olympics, that's for sure. One thing I think I need to point out is that present day music editing and cuts are better than 20 years ago. Also, CoP has done a good job with requiring skaters to practice flexibility and whole body movement, because some of these skaters really lack a range of movement. I think the current CoP overshoots it no doubt, but I think that's why the next couple of seasons were good - fuller programs than in 6.0, more variety of transitions and spin positions, step sequences that saw the skaters actually attempt full body movement.

@ladyjane I'll do Pairs with you, if you want to.
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Well, except for Weir which I really didn't like that much, I agree with everything you said. Yes. Joubert is hot :) HAHA

I may do pairs too with you both. Nobody is going to force me to do dance. I cannot watch Marie-France fall like this. NO.

Women, I am undecided.
 
Well @4everchan and @yfan1. I love Ice Dance, don't want to see that horrible fall either.

Here comes the SP (FS will come thursday or something, regrettably too tired and busy to do both in one go).

Group1:
Seeing Tatiana Voloushar with Stanislav Morozov (ex pair partner of both her and Aljona Savchenko) is a bit of a surprise. I know it, certainly at the time I was used to them. Never the best, never the worst either. Stanislav is not very elegant.
I had forgotten that this was the OG where Rena Inoue and John Baldwin landed the Thr-3A. Such a milestone! I hadn't remembered any of the rest though I am sorry to say.

Group 2:
I've always been a fan of Pang Quin and Tong Jian, and this was beautiful. Nice twizzles, if not as sophisticated as with dansers. A pity the SBS spins were out of sync.
That entree into the death spiral by Shen Xue and Hong Bo Zhao was really something. Level 4 I would say, whether there's enough features or not. Good for them after coming back from injury. It made me a little sniffy hearing Joan Hannappel doing the commentary, as she sadly passed in 2024.
I had totally forgotten there was a PRK team. How a team who has only been skating together for 8 weeks can actually participate at the OG is a mystery to me. They could have used a bit more development, the potential was there.

Group 3:
Julia Belaglazova and Andrei Bekh were a bit bland. Lucky in not falling, not very memorable I am sorry to say.
I liked Marcy Hinzmann and Aaron Parchem. Not to complicated, yeah a fall, but altogether really nice.
Dan Zhang and Hao Zhang were very athletic. Very high twist. Not sure if it was a triple though. This programme wasn't really my thing. But that could also be because I am already dreading their FS (talking about falls).
I had totally forgotten there was an Estonian pair. Lots of single skaters from the Baltic States, sometimes in ID, but a pair? Not a very high level though. But good to see a couple from Estonia at the OG.

Okay guys. That's the first three groups done. Next two in the next half hour.
 
And here we go again....

Group 4:
I always have a soft spot for Maria Petrova and Alexei Tikhonov (the provided link no longer worked for me, but there was another). They are always fun to watch, as they were here. Always in the shadows of others, be it their own countrymen or from elsewhere. But they did get some nice titles anyway.
I watched the link from the WC in 2006 for Dorota Zakorska and Mariusz Zudek, as this link didn't work, and I am always a big fan of these two. I didn't want to miss them.That lift entry. No wonder they were famous for their lifts.
Lovely to see Jessica Dube and Bryce Davidson again. such a lovely couple. Great death spiral entrance. Lovely lift. Skating young, but not immature in any way.

Group 5
Valerie Marcoux and Craig Buntin were really fun. It was the WC in Calgary, as it was another link which sadly didn't work for me. So nicely skated to the music. I guess that after all these double twists that was the standard 20 years ago?
Nice to see Julia Obertas and Sergei Slavnov again. A big contrast with Valerie and Craig. Very classical pair. A pity about the SBS spins which were a bit out of sync.
Tatianna Totmianina and Maximim Marinin were really very good. No mistakes, good lines. I am very sorry that their programme just has no appeal to me. Sorry. That's all I can say
Aliona Savchenko and Robin Solkowy really stand out for me. Very different from everyone else. Not perfect, but great fun to watch.

On the whole it was nice to see these SP's again, 20 years later. I really had forgotten that they did double twist lifts in the SP's then, Nice steps though.
 
Pairs SP!

Group 1
AGANINA Marina / KNYAZEV Artem: I liked bits and pieces of the first half, not so much the second. Very weak SBS spin.

VOLOSOZHAR Tatiana / MOROZOV Stanislav: Volosozhar is already very nice here. Very sluggish overall though.

SPASSOVA Ruminana / TODOROV Stanimir: That was fun in many parts! I liked it. Technically weak though.

INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John: That was okay. A sound performance overall.

Group 2
PANG Qing / TONG Jian: Lovely skating, but boring generic program for me. Which I think is the biggest critique for me of this era: technically sound top teams, but rarely emotionally satisfying. Strange costumes too, in this case.

SHEN Xue / ZHAO Hongbo: Excellent in parts, but I still feel the music a little too wasted. Shen is probably the best performer of this era.

HYO Yong Myong / JONG Yong Hyok: Well they tried. Make me miss the North Korean Pair we had for a couple years recently...

PLA Marylin / BONHEUR Yannick: I liked the beginning, and appreciate them trying to interpret the music, but didn't work for me.
 
2006 pairs...

I am doing only some of the pairs's LP.

First thing to notice is that I finished my men's rewatch with Matt Savoie and I am starting with Zagorska-Siudek who are using the same music :) (different arrangement) I love it so it's no big deal :). PHEW.

Second thing is the impact oj IJS on pairs. Before, you could see them do a bunch of different things in their programs, including various jump sequences and more than one twist at times. Now, with the code of point, everything is defined. Back then though, teams had to 2 death spirals, and also the SBS and pair spins. They also had to do, in addition to their step sequence, a spiral sequence. That's the one element I never missed when it was removed. It was rarely a highlight in pairs programs. Just awkward.

Back to the Polish team : you can see why these are world medalists and many times Euro medalists. They have fabulous pair elements. The lifts are so athletic and acrobatic. The throws are strong. They did a triple twist late in the program. Both times, they had great variation in the death spiral with him moving into a forward position in the pivot. SBS spins were good. But the jumps were weak. Quite weak. The presentation, bland. The steps at the end were not stellar. So yeah, great pair elements, very strong but the rest also explains why they didn't do well at the Olympics nor weren't able to surpass the champions every time they competed. Still a nice watch.

Dubé Davison : always loved these two. Not sure about the choice of music here. A bit dark. Nice costumes. I love how these two skate so close together and so much In unison. Of course, we know now that this caused them a major issue in the SBS spin later on. Strong SBS jumps, Jessica skated successfully in singles and it shows.. Strong throws... but then, one small problem on a lift and a complete fail on the next one. I don't want to look at the scoring sheet because that must have been costly. Again, we can see in the quality here why these two won a medal at worlds later on. So good. I think their career was relatively short with his knee injury which is a pity because they were really beautiful to watch.

Shen Zhao. Her costume is terrible. These throws... so long, so high, so powerful, so beautiful. Again with the pivot variation for the death spiral. It must have been a feature back then. Funny to note that Chinese pairs still have most of the same issues nowadays than they had back then : SBS spins and jumps. I love these two but they ran out of steam here and couldn't match the powerful music. However, since we know the future, it's all good... they'll get their golden moment ;)

Alona and Robin : I like this pairing way more than the one with Bruno... so there's that. I am biased and I haven't watched yet. Why are so many teams doing a double twist ? Wow at the two 3toes back to back... Just wow. Aliona landing the throw triple flip on two feet... That kept creeping on her years later. And again, this pivot variation on the DS. I am starting to like it. The ISU should bring it back :) I really liked the pair spin going into the steps. Good choreography there. They lack unison and flow on the step but it was a good musical moment. A good performance for them for sure. And again, Aliona would get her gold medal... much much much later :)

Inoue Baldwin : I really liked the interpretation of the slower music. Not the fast. Too bad about the fall on the throw triple axel. A well matched team technically but not so well matched in terms of what pairs needed to achieve back then, a sense of romance or two skaters skating as one. They didn't have that. Judges let them know with really low PCS.

Pang and Tong : noooo. POTO. The music is way too big at the beginning for their interpretation. They do the soft lyrical part much better. That throw triple loop was amazing. I liked the cool variation in the pair spin, even if it made them slower, it was unique. A bit bland for me.

Totmianina/Marinin : looks tentative and slow all the way through but they landed everything or just about. I love how some things haven't changed in pairs : Sandra Bezic pointing out how poor Marinin's footwork is on the lifts :). Reminds me of Milano and the commentary about the Georgian team :) Oh... those marks are way too high. They should be in first but wow.. that's quite a lead.

The Zhangs : it was hard to find a video of this...I did... but yeah. I guess nobody really wants to see that fall and the pain resulting from it... that throw quad was never going to happen. I admire Dan. She showed so much courage. To land the 2a-3toe right after, that's wow. At the same time, I am very puzzled. How did they not get a penalty for prolonged interruption of the program ? How are their PCS that high ? I'd give them good marks for technical merit because they did land almost everything (but the triple loop throw) after that and their technical ease is remarkable. The Russians were tentative so, I have no problem with the TES mark... but the PCS ? and the only 1 point deduction for that fall is a choice. I mean, maybe the rules are different now but I remember a skater needing to tie his laces back and lost 4 points for program interruption. Or was this rule created after that incident so things like this do not happen again ? No wonder why nobody understands this sport.

My final words : I didn't want to watch dance because of Marie-France's fall... but I guess I should have remembered that quad sal throw fall too. Kudos again to Dan Zhang for her courage and continuing to skate through pain. I am a bit puzzled with how I feel about this event. I found the most interesting skating much earlier in the event than with the leaders.

My final final words : how good it is to only have instrumental music. The ISU keeps changing rules and elements. That's fine but there is one thing they made a huge mistake with : allowing lyrics.
 
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Totmianina/Marinin : looks tentative and slow all the way through but they landed everything or just about. I love how some things haven't changed in pairs : Sandra Bezic pointing out how poor Marinin's footwork is on the lifts :). Reminds me of Milano and the commentary about the Georgian team :) Oh... those marks are way too high. They should be in first but wow.. that's quite a lead.
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They're probably one of the weakest OGMs ever.
 
Group 3

BELOGLAZOVA Julia / BEKH Andrei: Not very interesting.

HINZMANN Marcy / PARCHEM Aaron: The woman here is a gorgeous skater. I think the program had a gorgeous opening positions and some very nice positions, but not really interesting with the music.

ZHANG Dan / ZHANG Hao: I thought he was very good. She's very... robotic.

RENNIK Diana / SAKS Aleksei: Not good.

Group 4

FITZE Eva-Maria / REX Rico: One of the more enjoyable performances so far in terms of personality, but the weak technical skills detract.

PETROVA Maria / TIKHONOV Alexei: One of the more complete performances, but still rather bland, IMO.

ZAGORSKA Dorota / SIUDEK Mariusz: Not sure where the character here was outside the costuming.

DUBE Jessica / DAVISON Bryce: One of the more enjoyable skates!

Group 5

MARCOUX Valerie / BUNTIN Craig: This had its moments, I liked it.

OBERTAS Julia / SLAVNOV Sergei: Technically decent, but boring. I admit I laughed at the interpretation with the death spiral to the voice going aAAaAAaAaAAaAaAaAaAaAaAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA

TOTMIANINA Tatiana / MARININ Maxim: You can tell even here that the footwork on his lift is very weak. But other than that, good if bland.

SAVCHENKO Aliona / SZOLKOWY Robin: Some interesting moves and positions, but I find the program to be a big nothing.

Well, would say some later CoP Pairs were more interesting than this... But then, this was a bland quad for me outside Chinese Pairs.
 
Pairs LP!

Group 2
HINZMANN Marcy / PARCHEM Aaron: I like them quite a lot. Marcy's wonderful! The exits out of the death spiral as well as the spiral sequence give such a nice finish to those moves.

Group 3

VOLOSOZHAR Tatiana / MOROZOV Stanislav: She's very good. Happy that she got her dues with a different partner.

MARCOUX Valerie / BUNTIN Craig: Like that they tried to end with a throw. I think that's a criticism of the more recent CoP - skating has minimum risk nowadays unless you're going for quads.

DUBE Jessica / DAVISON Bryce: Yeah, the mistake really detracted, but talented team. Good quality skating.

Group 4

OBERTAS Julia / SLAVNOV Sergei: It had some moments of character, but not an impressive skate on any aspect.

SHEN Xue / ZHAO Hongbo: Excellent in parts yet again, just a shame the mistakes detract so much. Very good entries sometimes, and that exit out of the throw 3S is fantastic.

SAVCHENKO Aliona / SZOLKOWY Robin: I liked their spiral sequence. I really like some of their moves, and the skill and the talent is clearly there.

INOUE Rena / BALDWIN John: Skilled team, with nice presentation, just don't think the program came along for me.

Group 5

PETROVA Maria / TIKHONOV Alexei: Much better than their SP, that's for certain. I enjoyed it in parts.

PANG Qing / TONG Jian: Very well presented, but genuinely not an interesting program. Back Outside Death Spiral that doesn't sit.

TOTMIANINA Tatiana / MARININ Maxim: They were "perfect" but boring program and skating.

ZHANG Dan/ZHANG Hao: Too difficult to judge it. And even then, I'm just not a fan of Zhang Dan to begin... I do think he's VERY talented and used to get rather unfair criticism simply because of his size.

Would likely give highest PCS to Shen/Zhao. That Throw 3S was the very best of the competition too, and likely deserved +3s across the board, amusing to see it getting 1s and 2s here.

A better ride than the SPs, and I liked it more than the present Olympics LP, too, outside Sui/Han.

I think overall I liked the 2010-2018 era of Pairs more. That era's CoP made it more exciting, and certainly seems to have helped with the choreography/interpretation aspect.
 
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Women, SP

Group 1
Tugba Karademir: Wonderful tano and expression at the end of that combo. Nice positions in this spiral sequence. That was a decent step sequence in terms of quality of movement.

Kimmie Meisner: Horrible take off on that +3T. She does technically more difficult moves, skates with more speed, and has better edging, but just lacks the care of the girl before her. It's not pleasant to watch for me.

Susanna Poykio: some of these moves really needed to be performed with better character.

Kiira Korpi: Unmemorable.

Joannie Rochette: Best skating skill display so far, but some of these positions are too weak. A nice involved performance, though.

Group 2

Idora Hegel: Liked some of the arm positions and all with the music, just wish more of the program had continued it.

Mira Leung: Nice energy, but rather weak on the jump quality.

Fleur Maxwell: Some nice positions, but rather forgettable. Final combo spin deserves a good bit of credit though.

Viktoria Pavuk: Some moments, but on the weaker side overall.

Yan Liu: This had some nice spin positions and presentation and even some nice jump quality, but program is boring, not particularly interesting. Not a great spiral sequence either.

Elena Sokolova: Not any good. Decent spin positions I guess? Massive gift there.

Group 3

Elena Glebova: Boring.

Elene Gedevanishvili: Great job! Best one so far, IMO. Would have placed her ahead of Meisner.

Miki Ando: Love that she opens with a layback, it suits the music. This is one of Miki's better programs... Mistake on teh combo, clear bad edge on the flip, too. Just too many errors.

Emily Hughes: Good lift on the Flip. Messy steps. One of the better spiral sequences so far. General energy that works with the music, even if not always the best choreo. Good job. I liked her ending. Presented better than Meisner.

Julia Sebestyen: Massive Flip. Giant Lutz but fall. Decent energy on the steps. Not impressive on any regard but the jumps, imo.

Sarah Meier: Lovely moments and musicality, even if technically not the strongest skate.
 
Group 4:

Irina Slutskaya: Good entry into the Flip. Nice 2A with the transitions in and out. Decent spins. Good energy. But frontloaded program, not very interesting.

Silvia Fontana: Enjoy the musicality of some of it quite a lot. Nice positions too many times. Just a pity technically.

Anastasia Gimazetdinova: Not good.

Shizuka Arakawa: Best basic skating of the event so far. Clear bad edge on the Flip. Not a fan of the program. Some of these spin positions aren't any good either.

Galina Efremenko: Decent positions here and there, but not anything impressive on any regard.

Joanne Carter: It came a bit alive in the steps, but not any good overall.

Group 5:

Roxana Luca: Not interesting on any regard.

Yong Suk Kim: Opened nicely, nice lift on that Lutz. Decent camel positions. The spiral had a couple nice positions. A bit too weak on the layback for me. OK, not memorable overall.

Elena Liashenko: That had nice moments and presentation, but understandably not marked too high overall.

Fumie Suguri: Came alive after the 2A, decent job overall.

Carolina Kostner: Some fantastic basic skating shown here, and yet there's still a bobble in the spiral sequence... Not the strongest spins either. Overall decent but with a costly error.

Sasha Cohen: Fantastic. Deserves the highest scores for performance/choreography/interpretation, and huge scores for that spiral sequence. It even has good transitions. First deserved, and the margin should have been larger.

This was a better SP than the other two disciplines.
 
Women LP

Group 1

Sylvia Fontana: Quite a lot less appealing than her SP, and wish she'd drop the plastered-on smile. Liked the energy towards the end.

Group 3

Miki Ando: A mess, and bland choreo to boot.

Emily Hughes: Enjoy her energy, her jumps get nice lift, and her spiral here was nice-ish. Just the program is very bland here.

Sarah Meier: No, not the strongest technically - but the fact that she tries to perform through everything, tries to do something with her feet, her arms, perform through everything - the thing that's so missing nowadays in women's skating - makes me so nostalgic. Good job. I don't care about some failed jumps. I remember she skated this even better at worlds this season.

Joannie Rochette: Some good basic skating and jump quality, I just don't get the program. Needed work on her positions.

Carolina Kostner: Some very good parts to it, like the opening 3F, and the 3Lo. Clearly lost all spark though. The steps have nice moves, and I like the last spin choreo, but not committed enough to anything.

Group 4

Elene Gedevanishvili: Some very interesting moments there, but something was clearly off with her. Wish I knew what, because you could tell she was being deliberately careful on some of those misfired jumps.

Sasha Cohen: So I think this is the best ever program at an Olympics, and that the spiral sequence to that musical passage is a highlight and an Olympic moment for the ages. It's a shame she made a few too many errors. Even there, like that less than ideal landing on the 2A that she converts to an attitude positions and extends that moment to its full completion - it's wonderful. Completely missing in skating now. The kick to the musical cue after the 3S out of the ina bauer connecting move - perfect. Some gorgeous spinning and that spiral deserved +3s across the board. Best performance/choreo/interpretation too. The freest she ever skated...

Shizuka Arakawa: Great basic skating, fantastic ina bauer, and some nice jumping. Her own spiral is pretty remarkable with the speed and edging it has, and the way the Y-spiral stays in place perfectly after she removes the assist. Spin positions could be better, and the steps are pasted on.

Fumie Suguri: Nice final spin, but kind of boring otherwise.

Kimmie Meisner: The program is actually decent choreography, it's just not pleasing to watch her.

Irina Slutskaya: Well, she's a better performer than Meisner, to me. Just too empty in parts, and then the mistakes.

Quite enjoyable to watch, placed next to 2026. I think women's skating has only gone down since 2010... Nothing of value is emphasised now.
 
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I don't find the earlier groups.
 
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