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Denis Ten's triple axels have to get a mention, especially during 2013 Worlds. They have fantastic height and great air position.
I also disagree with the choice of Hanyu for the 10-14 quad. But I realise I'm in the very, very tiny minority that isn't actually over the moon about his skating, so there's not a lot of point arguing, is there?
We're not talking about Yuzu's skating, we're talking about his triple axel. And even if people don't like his skating, you've got to admit he has one of the most effortless and consistent triple axels within the last quad and probably this quad too.
Han Yan comes at a close second though I only ding him because of consistency.
We're not talking about Yuzu's skating, we're talking about his triple axel. And even if people don't like his skating, you've got to admit he has one of the most effortless and consistent triple axels within the last quad and probably this quad too.
Han Yan comes at a close second though I only ding him because of consistency.
It's not about whether you like his skating or not. It's about 3A in term of height and distant overall. And it's about common sense because when thing is good, it's good and it's hard to say otherwise.I also disagree with the choice of Hanyu for the 10-14 quad. But I realise I'm in the very, very tiny minority that isn't actually over the moon about his skating, so there's not a lot of point arguing, is there?!
Are we watching the same thing? :scratch: Plushenko has a well-extended free leg and lighter landings than anyone else from 1998-2006 (I can see handing 3A to Yagudin on basis of sheer size, but not in terms of landing). Dai has great flow; his problem is his jumps don't have the height and distance of most top level skaters, and that's led to URs/two-foots by the end of his run (URs and two-foots, admittedly, don't tend not to flow very well... but we're talking 2006-10 Dai, not the 2014 version).Plushenko's is of course impressive but I've never liked how he lands his jumps. I just prefer pretty well-extended landings. Daisuke doesn't get that much flow on his landings.
I have heard some call it "back counter".I'm partial to Hanyu's 3As because it's one of his most consistent jumps and they have great quality (his landings are very smooth). Also, I really like his entries into the 3A.
Spread eagle to 3A
Difficult entry in PW (I have no idea what you call this entry...^^
HanDomi said:He introduced something new you can do with 3A with extremely difficult entry. That's something that others were not doing and are not doing right now.
Yay, 4 votes for Nobu <3
I might be wrong, but I think Midori did the same (or at least a similar move) before her 2A's. It's still special and I doubt we'll see other skaters managing an entrance like that soon. His spread eagle-counter before the 2nd 3A in his LP was even better!
For me 10-14 clearly Hanyu 3A is the best and I would say not only for this quad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIFQTXcTR08#t=119
He introduced something new you can do with 3A with extremely difficult entry. That's something that others were not doing and are not doing right now.
Midori was doing that before Yuzuru was even born. Yes, it was with a 2A, but it was still done.
Exactly the reason I didn't pick Yagudin. His 3A looked forced, and his landings kinda heavy. He is a better choice than Stojko though, especially the 1998-2002 Stojko (who's a distant fourth at best behind Plushenko, Yagudin, and Eldredge... heck, would be a distant fourth even if he'd competed against them in his prime).
I would say the best 3A of the bunch you linked to was Plushy's in Sabre Dance (last link). So good that I'll even forgive you for making me listen to that ear-bleed music again.:thumbsup: who looked at my links can see it.
Kulik is no debate, obviously the best 3A of all time.1994-1998 Ilia Kulik, he definetely had the best triple axel with height, soft landing and flow...