Cool moves

[gkelly]

Several moves that used to be unusual have recently become fairly commonplace because they have been explicitly rewarded in the new judging system (e.g., edge changes in spins, spirals with the free leg in front)

Others have become even more unusual because they're explicitly devalued (e.g., split flip, which would now count as a single flip with maybe +2 GOE).

Others would just count as transitions or variations under the current system as well as the old, which is where there is still room for creativity.

I thought I'd start a thread for appreciating unusual and creative moves. Unfortunately many of my favorites are not available on youtube.

Here's one program with several examples to start things out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo8Y3QNzQ

 

[Tinymavy15]

hyroplanes are completely gone.... not that they were that common before. I guess they take up too much time and are too difficult to learn just for transitions. I also miss Kwan's beautiful falling leaf jump.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Several moves that used to be unusual have recently become fairly commonplace because they have been explicitly rewarded in the new judging system (e.g., edge changes in spins, spirals with the free leg in front)

Others have become even more unusual because they're explicitly devalued (e.g., split flip, which would now count as a single flip with maybe +2 GOE).

Others would just count as transitions or variations under the current system as well as the old, which is where there is still room for creativity.

I thought I'd start a thread for appreciating unusual and creative moves. Unfortunately many of my favorites are not available on youtube.

Here's one program with several examples to start things out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo8Y3QNzQ

That Gary Beacon can skate without being femenim like or Gladiator like. It's just the joy of skating. He never 'sold' those tricks to the audience, He just danced them.

There was one of small jump where he landed on a forward outsie edge. Only the brave at heart can accomplish that move.

Joe

 

[gkelly]

Thanks to whichever moderator fixed my double post.

Among the moves I find especially cool in the Beacom example linked above is the forward single jumps in both directions that Joesitz mentioned, landing on the same forward outside edge as the takeoff. I guess we would consider them a variety of half-axel, but I like to think of them as forward loop jumps since they stay on the same edge just like the standard (back outside) loop.

A lot of these videos are old and grainy and you can't see the blades very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en7mJIpLvoo
includes mazurkas, half-axel (into lunge), split flip, split toe loop, back split hop w/ no rotation, cross-foot spin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVr4tszems
split lutz @ 4:20

Notice that several of these earlier programs used to include sequences (most of which wouldn't count as such under today's COP rules) with half and one-and-a-half jumps leading into doubles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFuqkv7CQaI
half-axel, one-foot axel, half flip, one-foot axel, half flip, double axel @1:50
one-foot salchow @2:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNP6VaJZzE0
double inside axel @ 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyK-bFKNHE
only example I could find of a single on youtube is the same skater, @ 1:42

Does anyone have the 1994 US Nationals broadcast with Mark Mitchell's program joined in progress? There's an inside axel there, in close proximity to a one-foot axel, just for comparison purposes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dMjMrCDCiM
one-foot axel just before 1:00
later . . . a spiral that's held long enough to show how the move got its name

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ4FhzvSmvY
one of my all-time favorite pieces of ladies' choreography
for purposes of this thread, check out two bunny hops into two half-inside axels, lunge to clockwise reverse half-axel, double axel (fall ) just before the end

 

[ElFuego]

Here's one of my favorites -- it's a pro program, but I can't find anything else uploaded for him -- really clever spins, especially the camel-sit/sit-jumpover/sit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoPrvYHobB0

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Thanks for those links. Really enjoyed skating on the ice as well as in the air.

Are there any examples of what was called a 'Boekle' by roller skaters? It would be a one foot axel but it's this description I'm looking for:

A forward inside edge/ jump 1.5 rotations/ land on same foot as takeoff on a back outside edge?

 

[Mafke]

Are there any examples of what was called a 'Boekle' by roller skaters?
A forward inside edge/ jump 1.5 rotations/ land on same foot as takeoff on a back outside edge?

Isn't that an inside axel? IIRC Baiul did one right at the end of her 93 LP (worlds or maybe europeans).

 

[gkelly]

Isn't that an inside axel? IIRC Baiul did one right at the end of her 93 LP (worlds or maybe europeans).

Thanks for the reminder, Mafke! Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKv3NJhtm3I

A nice clear example of an inside axel at 4:11.