Well Blissful, I'm sorry. When it counted - Ellie didn't come through. Same thing when Danny skated with Tarah Kayne. You always seem to know so much more than anyone else when it comes to pairs, but that was my opinion. How many more years was it going to take for her to stop losing them points? I do agree with all her fine points but.,,,,,
I don't think I know more than anyone else about pairs
@noskates. That's one reason why I tend to ask
@Diana Delafield for her knowledgeable input. I always learn something when she posts. I will also say that I do know something about pairs, especially U.S. pairs due to watching and following the discipline for so many years. At the same time, I too can often exaggerate and make misstatements. When someone corrects me factually, I accept and acknowledge my errors.
Please understand that I'm not trying to tear you down nor to belittle your comments and points of view. I am just being factual and setting the record straight. I don't think you intended anything negative, and you did give some credit to Ellie. But, it simply isn't true that Ellie did not come through when it counted. And it isn't true that she can't land a triple. She came through (even despite some inconsistencies) when it counted at the Olympics! Ellie & Danny are widely credited with being the anchors, along with Ilia, who secured the U.S. the Olympic figure skating team gold medal. Thus, if you could qualify by saying Ellie has difficulty on throws and often on jumps, which makes her inconsistent, then that's accurate. Even I was sarcastically critical of Ellie in an earlier post. As a fan, it can be frustrating to see someone with such wonderful abilities fail to consistently deliver. But it's important to give full credit to talented, hardworking athletes.
Earlier, you also said: "I thought Danny was one of the best male pairs skaters but
he's been saddled with partners who had little or no singles skills and that has always held him/them back from reaching higher recognition." This is not against you
@noskates, but this comment is simply not true. Danny chose to skate with each of his partners, he was never 'saddled with partners.' He was also very loyal to and supportive of all his partners. Jessica Calalang in juniors; Tarah Kayne, Chelsea Liu, and Ellie Kam in seniors. All are very accomplished pairs ladies at a high level. Danny did not have a long enough tenure with Jessica & Chelsea to effectively determine what they could have achieved, but his career accomplishments with Tarah and recently with Ellie are stellar. This does not mean Danny did not face challenges with both Tarah and Ellie, but in both partnerships, grit and determination is the biggest factor in the significant successes achieved. Ellie is arguably Danny's best partner. A low bar of expectations was placed on them by outcome predictors for the recent Olympics, and they easily exceeded the low bar predictions of where they would place in their team event performances. They majorly helped to win the Olympic team gold medal in figure skating. For sure, if Ellie could have achieved better consistency on jumps and especially throws, they might have reached more major podiums. But I think they are very happy with their team Olympic gold. Not many skaters will ever reach that milestone, much less have the opportunity to try.
To say Danny's partners 'had little to no singles skills' means what? If you are referencing jumping ability, performing jumps in pairs can be helped by good singles jumping ability, but jumping in unison as a pairs skater is difficult, thus singles jumping ability does not always translate to pairs jumping success. For a fair assessment, it's best not to lump all of Danny's partners together.
I am adamant in my responses because I am passionate about pairs, and I always try to point out true facts when inaccurate comments are made about U.S. pairs teams. Figure skating is a tough sport, and pairs is the hardest discipline.
I hope there are other fans who will back me up. This is not a pile-on, but just a plea for fairness and accuracy.