Denis Ten

[CaroLiza_fan]

You misunderstood me comlpetely. I didn't mean it like I was mad at anyone for doing it, or that there are programs or interviews missing. It's sad you would think such a thing of me. I meant like I can't believe it this is the thing that his OP must be updated, because that's what happened instead of us witnessing his new programs, which surely would be added to OP at some time. I appreaciate everyone's work to update OPs. I know it takes time

Phew. I was worried that you thought it was insensitive that the introductory paragraph now included details of his death. And by extension (because there was a line a bit futher down saying that I had done the update), that I was being insensitive. When in fact that bit wasn't from me.

I am as sad as the rest of us here, so thinking that people thought this of me did hurt. Especially when it was a member that I like and have always got on well with.

So, it is a relief that you didn't mean it the way I thought you did.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[ewdokia]

Am I the only one who finds it odd a lot of American skaters are carrying on on Instagram like someone in their community has not just passed away? It feels very surreal they're posting about makeup and their kittens when a comrade has been slain. I may be too sensitive but it just makes me really disliked them. /Nonamesmentioned

People are different, the also mourn in different ways. Not everybody can / likes to share private feelings to public, in particular if it’s overwhelming sadness. Some people might feel better if they somehow try to move on. Actually I feel for the skaters as well – look how sad we are and for most people on this board skating isn’t their job, it’s just our hobby. For the athletes it must be incredible difficult to focus on their job, but they might need to do so. Some of them might have right now hired a choreographer to help them with their programs for a couple of days – they need find ways to “function”, despite their sorrow. Others might be engaged to skate in shows. Maybe there might be a few exceptions of skaters who don’t care, but I think it’s the tiny minority.

I’m also sure a lot of people follow this thread in tears, but they don’t post anything. Still it does not mean they are not touched. :noshake:

 

[reneerose]

tatianatotmyanina:
A day of rethinking ... Here she is - MAMA with a capital letter!!! She gave birth, nurtured, raised, taught, directed, supported, punished, encouraged, always near and for the sake of ..., but some beast decided that here and now he has the right to deprive this boy of life... Well, they were caught, will be convicted, but noone can bring him back!!! This boy WAS the universe for his mother!!! how can she live now??? When my mother had left us, I thought it was the end of the world... but it's so planned by nature, that parents "leave" before we do. And here, how many mother's hopes, plans remained unrealizable. Oxana, dear, there is no word in this world which can describe the degree of your deprivation! Hold on!!! I wish you strength, female wisdom to cope with this and continue to LIVE!!! For the sake of the memory of such a wonderful son
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bld6E7UnsWs/

what a beautiful photo


Here one of the comments says, that "all the TV-channels in Kazakhstan have been showing Denis skating all day long".
https://www.instagram.com/p/BldTvByHIHc/

These photos and media are all making me sob. :hopelessness: I so feel for his family right now.

 

[Victura]

I was so excited last year to hear that Denis was skating to “SOS d'un terrien en détresse” (performed by his friend and fellow Kazakhstani Dimash Kudaibergen) for his free program. The song is from the French musical Starmania, and is about a man grieving his lover, who has died in his arms.

To the best of my knowledge, the only other skater who has used this song is Brian Orser, in 1996 (Brian used the English version).

This song was also used by Brian Joubert as an exhibition program for many years, though Joubert used a version sung by a French singer, Gregory Lemarchal. I don't know for sure, but always figured it was due to Denis's friendship with Brian that he discovered and decided to use this song. I believe he and Brian became good friends after Brian performed in his show in Kazakhstan, and he had trained in Poitiers with Brian off and on the last several years. It's certainly a beautiful and poignant song.

 

[Zenchio63]

Thank you for the uploads! Denis should star in his own movie. So he actually composed his own music for the show? What a talent!....

That was from my last post in the FF before the tragedy happened...:sad4:

Even though poor Denis didn't have a chance to star in his own movie, there will be a film dedicated to his memory.

Just six days before his untimely death, Denis Ten, who dreamed of becoming a filmmaker, had revealed his entry for the Screenlife Project competition held by famous Hollywood director Timur Bekmambetov. The athlete had pitched an idea for a film about the relationship between a hearing-impaired girl and a speech-impaired young man.

“This is an enormous tragedy,” remarked the director. “We will try to make his ideas a reality, so that we can dedicate a film to the talented Ten.”

Here is Denis' song "She Won't Be Mine", which he skated to in this video.

Beautiful artwork of Denis by Mitsurou Kubo.

Note: I am too upset to go into the Edge, so please excuse if some of the info has already been shared over there.

 

[ioanablabla]

I knew coming here was a mistake, now I'm crying again.
I thought the news was a joke at first (the first message I saw was Adam's Rippon on twitter and I kept reading it as my brain did not want to accept such thing). Such an absurd death of such a young man!
I think all the messages we've read these days (of the fans, the other skaters, people in the skating community, friends) speak for themselves: he was such a talented skater, a great artist and a beautiful soul loved and appreciated by many.

 

[BillNeal]

I saw this on twitter - beautifully said by Denis
https://twitter.com/blurrandot/status/1020351867937644545?s=21

Life is so short

Thanks for this. I went back and forth from laughing at Denis' humorous delivery, to tearing up at how true it became for Denis and that we will never see him make such profound statements again. He really is larger than life. It hurts to hear this from him after watching his funeral.

 

[satine]

Thank you to everyone sharing links & translating so our whole community can understand. You're all appreciated

 

[Rina RUS]

Actually, there has been a lot more added to his OP than just the date of his death (that bit wasn't added by me, by the way)...

Thank you very much for your work. I was surprised either, that you thought anyone could blame you. Thank you very much.

 

[StitchMonkey]

Am I the only one who finds it odd a lot of American skaters are carrying on on Instagram like someone in their community has not just passed away? It feels very surreal they're posting about makeup and their kittens when a comrade has been slain. I may be too sensitive but it just makes me really disliked them. /Nonamesmentioned

I can empathize with this. It can feel weird. At the same time I think there was less today than usual from the skating world and life does go on. It has to go on. Some level of normal is good for the skaters and the skating community. And I for one think kitten videos are a positive and innocent way to try to not feel so crappy right now.

 

[Alchamei]

I'm not sure if this was shared here already so I'm sharing this link here.

https://twitter.com/kattwts/status/1020379262820536321?s=19

You can leave your messages to Denis and his family here until Monday 1 AM EST, and these two girls will handwrite them and bring them to the Consulate General of Kazakhstan in NYC. I think it's a beautiful opportunity for those who are not from the States or doesn't live close to any Kazakh embassy to be able to pay respect for Denis and to support his family.

 

[ewdokia]

I'm not sure if this was shared here already so I'm sharing this link here.

https://twitter.com/kattwts/status/1020379262820536321?s=19

You can leave your messages to Denis and his family here until Monday 1 AM EST, and these two girls will handwrite them and bring them to the Consulate General of Kazakhstan in NYC. I think it's a beautiful opportunity for those who are not from the States or doesn't live close to any Kazakh embassy to be able to pay respect for Denis and to support his family.

THANK you so much for the link. I wrote yesterday to a friend that it’s a pity we don’t have the opportunity in smaller countries to bring flowers to the embassy, to leave messages or do something actively to kind of support Denis family.

I don’t think it will be any comfort to them now. But later on it might help them to know that Denis has done a lot more for this sport and his country at age 25 than some people might do in their whole life. They can be so proud of raising up not only a wonderful athlete, but someone who also impressed with his character. :thumbsup:

Everybody who also thinks it’s a good idea, please share via your social media (facebook, vk, etc. …)

 

[silverfoxes]

Am I the only one who finds it odd a lot of American skaters are carrying on on Instagram like someone in their community has not just passed away? It feels very surreal they're posting about makeup and their kittens when a comrade has been slain. I may be too sensitive but it just makes me really disliked them. /Nonamesmentioned

Yes, you are being too sensitive. Life has to go on for everyone when someone passes away...whether it is someone famous and well respected, a family member or friend. And just because they were in the same sport does not mean they knew each other that well. I don't agree with trying to shame someone for not publicly mourning "enough" because grieving is 100% personal. When are they allowed to go back to normal, according to you? Maybe finding solace in mundane activities helps them feel better.

 

[moriel]

Just catching some of the funeral broadcast.
Still just can't believe that Denis is gone and seeing his parents in the front row.....

I came across this and it contains interviews with Avebukh and Bouianova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94RdRK4F9r4

Some Tarasova's comment here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vtwiGbeSo

If someone can offer a brief summary of what they say that would be much appreciated.

Averbukh: the whole figure skating world is in shock. Denis is really an encarnation of good education and intelligence, he is so moving, always so respectful in an eastern way. There are many great and talented champions in figure skaters, but then you cannot say they are also great talented people. But about Denis Ten, you can say he is an outstanding figure skater, but also an outstanding person.

Buianova: he is really a genius. All his life, he wanted to live at his country, wanted to bring glory just to his country. He loved it a lot. And I know his country loved him as he is because he really is a genius and an unique athlete and he is really a true son of his people.

TAT (1st video): he could have done a lot for his country.


TAT (2nd video): This is such a tragedy for all Kazakhstan, in the middle of the day, the most talented, the most famous figure skater that represented the country at Olympics, and not once... We are here on this ice where he jumped his first triples and quads... This is a tragedy for all the figure skating community, for our sport.

 

[Rina RUS]

Where does it say they knew it was him? I suppose he could have told them when he caught them.

Sorry, I believe Denis couldn't say something like "Don't you know, that this car belongs to Denis Ten?? Choose another one". I almost can't imagine a situation in which Denis would say to them: "I'm Denis Ten". (Sorry.)

Actually, it is not important whether they knew who he was or they didn't.

 

[JustRozy]

Here is my translation:

With indescribable sadness, we express our deepest condolences for the loss of our skater Denis Ten.
When we first heard the news, we could not possibly believe it. We contacted the Korean Embassy in Kazakhstan to find out what happened, and we were in a state of total shock at this unbeliveable tragedy and his sudden death. We weep with painful regret that we cannot rewind our time to before the accident.

Denis was maternal great-great-grandson of General Min Keung-ho, a renowned indenpendence fighter against the Japanese colonialists. He was a hero of Kazakhstan and a hero of the people of Korean minority in Central Asia. Denis was a rare figure skater who, with his great talent and relentless efforts, became one of the top figure skaters in the world from Kazakhstan, a country where figure skating was almost non-existent.

His remarkable accomplishments against all odds come in men's singles, which is the most fiercely competitive field in figure skating, through his lonely struggle and unmatched passion for the sport in poor conditions in country that used to be marginalised from the figure skating world. He was a young hero of our time.

His maternal great great grandfather Min Keung-ho raised militia and made significant contribution to Korea's struggles against Japanese colonialism. He was killed in action by Japanese forces, and turbulent and sad life of descendents of independence fighters awaited his remaining familes upon his death.

His family moved to the Maritime Province of Siberia and then were forcibly moved to Kazakhstan under Stalin. Denis learned of his great great grandfather, and Denis honored his ancestor by visiting his grave in Wonju, Gangwon Province, in Korea every year from 2010. After Pyeongchang won its Olympic bid for 2018, Denis said, "I am so happy that the Olympics will be held in Gangwon Province, where my great great grandfather was based in and fought for independence. I will do my best to have good results at the Pyeongchang Olympics."

After he won the 2015 4CC in Seoul, Denis said, "Korea is like my second country. When I compete in Korea, I feel comfortable as if it is being held in my own country. I also get a lot of support from passionate support from Korean fans." He was hampered by unexpected injuries to his ankle, he was unable to achieve his dream in Pyeongchang and he left the 2018 Olympics with much regret.

His love and passion for figure skating and winter sports defied his young age. For Kazahkstan's bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympics, Denis visited so many countries and explained the reason why Kazahkstan should host a Winter Olympics. Unfortunately, the bid was unfortunate and it went to Beijing, but his passionate activities during the campaign definitely heightened the level of interest and support for the Winter Olympics in Kazkahstan. During his short life spanning 25 years, Denis left a huge contribution to the development of winter sports in Kazkahstan, and he will be remembered as one of the greatest heroes of figure skating from emerging countries.

The All That Sports family, including all the skaters and staff, once again express our deepest condolences for the loss of Denis Ten.

This is beautiful and instructive, neraiselle. Thank you for translating and posting.

 

[Alchamei]

Am I the only one who finds it odd a lot of American skaters are carrying on on Instagram like someone in their community has not just passed away? It feels very surreal they're posting about makeup and their kittens when a comrade has been slain. I may be too sensitive but it just makes me really disliked them. /Nonamesmentioned

I know more than enough people have already replied to you, and many of them were negative, but I want to tell you I understand. I don't really agree with the last sentence but that's how it is.

I don't really dislike them, but it's just so weird for me to go and check the Instrastories. I don't follow figure skaters only, so when I looked at them two days ago and yesterday, it was just so surreal to see happy posts from vaccasions, and then posts about Denis...

And yes, I couldn't really accept the though that while some of the skaters expressed their sorrow, others kept posting stuff from their life. I didn't dislike them, I wouldn't say that, but I kinda felt that they should pay tribute to Denis... Even though many of them did already, but I didn't feel like looking at the happy stuff.

I guess I am also too sensitive, like you, but I don't want to just say to you that you should know better. We are all sad and while some of us are feeling better and have less problems dealing, some of us are more sensitive and can't overcome this so easily. I agree with others that other people have different mechanisms of coping, or that not all of them didn't know him as well, but it's just so hard for me to accept that and to deal with the fact others also have their own lives. I am pretty much aware that I overdramatize things, but I can't help myself. I am actually feeling worse and worse, since on the first day I cried but it wasn't really because of Denis, but yesterday I was hit with the feels and today I cried watching his funeral. Me, someone who never met Denis and wasn't that much of a big fan in recent years. Maybe that's why I'm dealing so badly. I regret that I didn't pay enough attention to Denis while he was still with us and that I didn't try to understand his skating more. It hurts me that it's too late now, but on the other hand, I may be kinder to those whose skating I don't like so much and enjoy others who skate twice as much now.

I know this a very long post but when I start to write, words pour out of my hands. I want to tell you I understand your feels, but remember that all of us, even though some have are dealing better, were hit by this news and we all stand together in these dark days for figure skating.

 

[ericka141]

Anybody watch this tribute video? I can't go more than ten seconds without having to pause it. It makes me feel so sad that I feel sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZp8dQlKEv8

 

[Seren]

Am I the only one who finds it odd a lot of American skaters are carrying on on Instagram like someone in their community has not just passed away? It feels very surreal they're posting about makeup and their kittens when a comrade has been slain. I may be too sensitive but it just makes me really disliked them. /Nonamesmentioned

Please try to understand that everyone grieves differently. You also don’t know about their interactions with each other, I imagine that in private many of these skaters are talking. To each other for support. Also, things like social media can often be a distraction or coping mechanism.

When my little brother died when I was a teenager I acted like everything was normal when I was around other people even though I felt destroyed and full of pain and anger inside. Everyone grieves differently. Please try not to judge or dislike someone when you don’t know what is going on inside their head and heart. I know it’s easy to judge and I don’t blame you for reacting emotionally to it- but please try and understand where they may be coming from.

 

[sun110]

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"The police have caught the second suspect and he says, 'When we were trying to steal the rear view mirror, the owner came back. We struggled physically and I knifed him. I didn't know he was #DenisTen. I found out later on, on the Internet."

https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/1020340563193843712